November 24, 200916 yr Does it make a noticeable difference when mining?(Mainly living rock caverns and runite rocks)At which price do you think the dpick will stabilize, also how long will that take?Is it worth the price? As 15mill sounds a bit much for a single pickaxe, off which i don't know when it will crashI'm probably not going to sell it after 99 mining so i want to buy it as cheap possible, if it would take a year for the price to drop i will just buy one now, but if it will probably crash in the next 1 or 2 months i will probably wait Should I get 70 prayer right now? (7m) or should I wait for the prices to drop after the prayer update thing (theyre rising because they are expecting an update, right?) if I shouldn't spend money on prayer, would it be wise to spend it on summoning instead?
November 24, 200916 yr It was stated in another help and advice thread that the dragon pick does nothing at living rock caverns. I don't' remember who said it but i am pretty i do remember it was a legitimate source. I am a 100 % certain that it will help on the runite though. price i am think around 8 mil and it might take about 6 months i think to get there. Yeah I can't spell get over it!
November 24, 200916 yr It definitely helps at the living rock caverns, I estimate about a 10% boost. If you plan to mine 150m worth of gold, then the pick will already have paid for itself. Plus the time you save = more money. And the resell value.
November 24, 200916 yr The price will definitely go down. It's only up in the stratosphere right now because it's still a fairly new item. The only other Dragon items worth over a couple of mil are the platebody, full helm and claws, and the pickaxe isn't exactly a PvP item. I see it, eventually, stabilizing down in the 2-5m range like the Dragon hatchet. But that might take a while. Check out my blog to read the Adventures of a Big Damn (F2P) Hero. THE place for all free players to connect, hang out and talk about how awesome it is to be F2P. So, Kaida is the real version of every fictional science-badass? That explains a lot, actually...
November 24, 200916 yr Author It was stated in another help and advice thread that the dragon pick does nothing at living rock caverns. I don't' remember who said it but i am pretty i do remember it was a legitimate source. I am a 100 % certain that it will help on the runite though. price i am think around 8 mil and it might take about 6 months i think to get there. I saw this on another thread, but i'm not sure about it, if dragon = rune, then it should be rune=bronze, right? "It definitely helps at the living rock caverns, I estimate about a 10% boost. If you plan to mine 150m worth of gold, then the pick will already have paid for itself. Plus the time you save = more money. And the resell value." I think I will just buy one as soon as i can, the only problem is that i am 2m short... :P
November 25, 200916 yr In response to the prayer questions, that's hard to answer. If the new prayer update comes and it is really good, then prices will continue to rise, if the update is bad/easier way to train, then the prices will fall dramatically. Off-topic: I'm happy I got mine for 4m Finally on here to update that I have officially quit! It's been fun.[hide=Signature]R.I.P Billy Mays and <3 My Friend C.D.S 7/8/09 <360,816th to 99 Fletching 03/07/09|220,309th Person to be Able to Kill Dusties | 10 Year Cape on 12/20/14[/hide]
November 25, 200916 yr There is NO significant benefit (perhaps the biggest benefit is psychological) of the dpick over the rune pick at Living Rock Caverns. There is a benefit at Rune, but since you only mine ~50 ores/hour (if you're good), the benefit isn't very significant. If you were mining something like regular gold, you'd really see the difference because you are mining hundreds of ores per hour. But at Rune? It'll maybe save 1-2 minutes per hour? You really won't see the benefits. So if you intend to mine with the dpick at Concentrated Gold/Coal or at Rune, forget it. It's not worth it. Speaking of mining Rune, take a look at my WIP mining guide. I have finished a huge section of the best way to mine Rune. I plan to have a Living Rocks section up in the future. Here's the link since it's not in my sig: http://forum.tip.it/topic/248409-mining-a-complete-guide ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~
November 25, 200916 yr There is NO significant benefit (perhaps the biggest benefit is psychological) of the dpick over the rune pick at Living Rock Caverns. There is a benefit at Rune, but since you only mine ~50 ores/hour (if you're good), the benefit isn't very significant. If you were mining something like regular gold, you'd really see the difference because you are mining hundreds of ores per hour. But at Rune? It'll maybe save 1-2 minutes per hour? You really won't see the benefits. So if you intend to mine with the dpick at Concentrated Gold/Coal or at Rune, forget it. It's not worth it. Speaking of mining Rune, take a look at my WIP mining guide. I have finished a huge section of the best way to mine Rune. I plan to have a Living Rocks section up in the future. Here's the link since it's not in my sig: http://forum.tip.it/topic/248409-mining-a-complete-guide I basically timed myself for 2 hours at living rock caverns with rune pick, got 45k/hr, and dpick, 50k/hr. If you're going to say that a piece of game content has no benefits, I think the burden of proof lies on you.
November 25, 200916 yr You'll need quite a few more tests to average out your data more. It would be foolish to say dragon is no better than rune, but it's certainly not good enough to justify its price. See dragon hatchet over rune; dragon is only a little bit faster than rune (I think a J Mod posted that in a dev blog somewhere), so dragon pick can't be too much faster than rune.
November 25, 200916 yr Buy it, try it. If you like it enough for its price, keep it.If not, sell it. I might cost a few k (not much if you can afford the pick in the first place) and you'll have your own opinion. As the price is now, picks can be bought/sold with easy, try it. As for the prayer: I'd wouldn't wait for the update. Having the benefit of 70 prayer is always good, and if the update is good, prices will skyrocket even more. If the update is lame/meh, prices might go down, but this might be an opportunity to buy the next levels cheaper, so the price won't be as bad on average. Other data was removed when acoount got hacked...
November 25, 200916 yr The D Pick still has largely "Luxury Item" status; whether its benefits are tangible or not are debatable. If you are poor and looking for a good investment, I'd advise you to steer clear. The item is still very volatile, and no one knows how well it works. If you have money, or just really want to try it, go ahead! It's your money, and you can sell it back even if it goes down without catastrophic loss.
November 25, 200916 yr I have a dragon pick and i have 90 minning and i got the pick myself. That said personally i dont think the Dragon Pickaxe is going to fall in price anytime soon, if ever. They are not easy to get people camp at the battle field for months before they get one people die their all the time as the hype on them drops off the amount of people trying to get them becomes less while the amount of people wanting one grows greater... I would buy it now it does help alot when minning mith+ ore you will notice a difference. If you only wanted it to mine granite faster then no. http://www.clanhavok.net/
November 25, 200916 yr On the 70 prayer thing, it's definitely worth getting. Dragon bones are more likely to rise than fall after the prayer update, so there's really no use in waiting, and Piety rocks. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP
November 25, 200916 yr Get 70 prayer now. The prayer update is supposed to be a high level content update, I doubt they would make a faster and cheaper way of training prayer in that update. Although, even if they did make a new way to train prayer it most likely wouldn't be faster then dragon bones at a gilded alter, because that would have to be like 400k xp/hour and I don't think jagex is that dumb <_< And ya piety does rock :thumbsup:
November 25, 200916 yr There is NO significant benefit (perhaps the biggest benefit is psychological) of the dpick over the rune pick at Living Rock Caverns. There is a benefit at Rune, but since you only mine ~50 ores/hour (if you're good), the benefit isn't very significant. If you were mining something like regular gold, you'd really see the difference because you are mining hundreds of ores per hour. But at Rune? It'll maybe save 1-2 minutes per hour? You really won't see the benefits. So if you intend to mine with the dpick at Concentrated Gold/Coal or at Rune, forget it. It's not worth it. Speaking of mining Rune, take a look at my WIP mining guide. I have finished a huge section of the best way to mine Rune. I plan to have a Living Rocks section up in the future. Here's the link since it's not in my sig: http://forum.tip.it/topic/248409-mining-a-complete-guide I basically timed myself for 2 hours at living rock caverns with rune pick, got 45k/hr, and dpick, 50k/hr. If you're going to say that a piece of game content has no benefits, I think the burden of proof lies on you. Well 1 hour for each isn't conclusive either, is it? My information has no numberical proof, but it does have observations that I have taken, and many of the other miners have taken. The dpick gives no significant benefit. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~
November 25, 200916 yr There is NO significant benefit (perhaps the biggest benefit is psychological) of the dpick over the rune pick at Living Rock Caverns. There is a benefit at Rune, but since you only mine ~50 ores/hour (if you're good), the benefit isn't very significant. If you were mining something like regular gold, you'd really see the difference because you are mining hundreds of ores per hour. But at Rune? It'll maybe save 1-2 minutes per hour? You really won't see the benefits. So if you intend to mine with the dpick at Concentrated Gold/Coal or at Rune, forget it. It's not worth it. Speaking of mining Rune, take a look at my WIP mining guide. I have finished a huge section of the best way to mine Rune. I plan to have a Living Rocks section up in the future. Here's the link since it's not in my sig: http://forum.tip.it/topic/248409-mining-a-complete-guide I basically timed myself for 2 hours at living rock caverns with rune pick, got 45k/hr, and dpick, 50k/hr. If you're going to say that a piece of game content has no benefits, I think the burden of proof lies on you. Well 1 hour for each isn't conclusive either, is it? My information has no numberical proof, but it does have observations that I have taken, and many of the other miners have taken. The dpick gives no significant benefit. I did 2 hours at each, and not just once.
November 25, 200916 yr Still, it isn't enough to be conclusive. Now I'm not saying that my information is the absolute truth, but I am saying that from my observations it seems that the dpick gives no SIGNIFICANT benefit (although it still gives a little). ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~
November 25, 200916 yr Still, it isn't enough to be conclusive. Now I'm not saying that my information is the absolute truth, but I am saying that from my observations it seems that the dpick gives no SIGNIFICANT benefit (although it still gives a little). 4 hours of recorded exp for rune and dragon is quite conclusive.
November 25, 200916 yr It's not 4 hours of recorded xp, it's 2 hours of each. There is a difference. The margin of error is bigger. 2 hours really ISN'T conclusive. It's general, but it's still prone to error/inconsistencies. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~
November 25, 200916 yr It's not 4 hours of recorded xp, it's 2 hours of each. There is a difference. The margin of error is bigger. 2 hours really ISN'T conclusive. It's general, but it's still prone to error/inconsistencies. I record for 2 hours at a time, and did both twice. Anyway, you don't even need to time that much, xp varies only maybe +-2k/hour. Dragon gives a lot more than that.
November 25, 200916 yr But that's an assumption, and if we were to follow all the assumptions in life, then we would assume a lot of wrong stuff. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~
November 25, 200916 yr But that's an assumption, and if we were to follow all the assumptions in life, then we would assume a lot of wrong stuff. What's an assumption, that the exp I timed was due to natural variance (which probably comes out to like a .00000001% chance)? Far more of an assumption to think that a different and new pickaxe does nothing different from an old one.
November 25, 200916 yr Here's the thing though, that's not an assumption. It's an OBSERVATION. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~
November 25, 200916 yr Here's the thing though, that's not an assumption. It's an OBSERVATION. Uh, what ? lol We're both observing, except I performed more controlled and long-winded tests.
November 25, 200916 yr Yes, we're both observing. But my information (can't call it data) is less subjective. That is to say, my data is taken from more time and a greater diversity of people, it's just that there are no raw numbers to support them. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~
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