1000+ Worlds

[wcingisbad]

Unfortunately most people would rather be busy skilling/nolifing/you define it than being continuously bombarded by questions whose answers could be found in KB articles and fansites such as this one.

 

'Crime' is a strong word perhaps. I'd prefer 'inconvenience'.

[Guest jrhairychest]

I plan to go on the skill total world, not because of noobs (though I really hate ones that ask for money). It gives me an incentive to get my skills up, and I want to meet some high level 100% F2Pers. :D

 

If you go by your logic then there shouldn't be a world that separates veterans from newcomers in RSC.

 

So, you'll use them but you don't think that players should be seperated?

 

 

Unfortunately most people would rather be busy skilling/nolifing/you define it than being continuously bombarded by questions whose answers could be found in KB articles and fansites such as this one.

 

'Crime' is a strong word perhaps. I'd prefer 'inconvenience'.

 

All players ask questions at some point, regardless of how much info is out there. Why is it such an inconvenience to be asked questions? Should players who are higher than you or I tell us we are an inconvenience? It costs nothing to educate players to stop begging behaviour or to just give them information or where to look for it.

[r4ngewarlord]

In a way I agree with them, all the high level anti-noob players will log onto these worlds and stop arguing with the newer players.

While the other, more helpful players wont mind and will just randomly log in.

I also think they should make 2000+ worlds as those players are really high levels.

[Youmu]

So, you'll use them but you don't think that players should be seperated?

Actually, I DO think that players should be separated. However, it is simply a matter of choice if you wish to be separated or not.

 

I'll definitely be using them (empty training spots), but by no means will I abandon world 1(Fist of Guthix).

[belfordrocks]

1000+ worlds only perpetuate elitism. Players are always constantly being judged by others, the fastest means of doing so is by their levels. As a "high" level myself (and I use that term very loosely), the last thing the community needs is more segregation of clueless yet well-meaning newcomers and snobby players who constantly belittle others.

[Youmu]

1000+ worlds only perpetuate elitism. Players are always constantly being judged by others, the fastest means of doing so is by their levels. As a "high" level myself (and I use that term very loosely), the last thing the community needs is more segregation of clueless yet well-meaning newcomers and snobby players who constantly belittle others.

That's a very biased point of view of high-levels. You think all high-levels are snobby?

 

1000+ worlds don't just show elitism either. I'm tired of a GE filled with merching clan advertisers, and, as I've heard, the GE is empty on those worlds.

[noble_aloof]

no, there isn't and shouldn't be a demand for MORE 1000+ worlds. if you ask me, there should be ONE 1000+, two 1500+, and two 2000+. but that will never happen. so i'll just keep dreaming

[Wouter828]

Great idea, no new players asking for free stuff and bothering you while you're firemaking. And if you don't mind all these things than you can still go to another world. I don't see any downside to this.

[Guest jrhairychest]

1000+ worlds only perpetuate elitism. Players are always constantly being judged by others, the fastest means of doing so is by their levels. As a "high" level myself (and I use that term very loosely), the last thing the community needs is more segregation of clueless yet well-meaning newcomers and snobby players who constantly belittle others.

 

I totally agree. Considering all players were new players once now it seems they're 'too good' to be bothered by new players or players asking questions. Talk about delusions of grandeur.

[Youmu]

I totally agree. Considering all players were new players once now it seems they're 'too good' to be bothered by new players or players asking questions. Talk about delusions of grandeur.

It's not that they think they're "too good". What if those players just don't want to answer their questions? Or they have public off?

[Guest jrhairychest]

I totally agree. Considering all players were new players once now it seems they're 'too good' to be bothered by new players or players asking questions. Talk about delusions of grandeur.

It's not that they think they're "too good". What if those players just don't want to answer their questions? Or they have public off?

 

On the contrary theres been a lot of 'noob' calling on this thread and a few players need to get over themselves. The answer to your question is simple. You just don't answer the questions. Why do you need a seperate world to do this?

[Jack]

This is completely fair. And even more incentive for people to train all their levels too!

[Youmu]

On the contrary theres been a lot of 'noob' calling on this thread and a few players need to get over themselves. The answer to your question is simple. You just don't answer the questions. Why do you need a seperate world to do this?

You are looking at the new worlds as if they are a way to get away from noobs. In fact, that is not the main purpose.

 

They are incentives for you to train your levels, just like how 12.5M exp is an incentive for F2Pers to reach to post on the RSOF.

 

This is completely fair. And even more incentive for people to train all their levels too!

Yep. :D

[Guest jrhairychest]

You are looking at the new worlds as if they are a way to get away from noobs. In fact, that is not the main purpose.

 

They are incentives for you to train your levels, just like how 12.5M exp is an incentive for F2Pers to reach to post on the RSOF.

 

Again on the contrary, I'm not looking at them in that way it seems thats what other players who've posted here want these new worlds for. Have you read through these posts? Almost all of those supporting relate it to getting away from lower levels.

 

As far as incentive goes, explain how its an incentive as you seem to agree with Jack about training levels but you don't elaborate on this. Levels can be trained in any world so where's the incentive and what exactly is it?

[Youmu]

Again on the contrary, I'm not looking at them in that way it seems thats what other players who've posted here want these new worlds for. Have you read through these posts? Almost all of those supporting relate it to getting away from lower levels.

 

As far as incentive goes, explain how its an incentive as you seem to agree with Jack about training levels but you don't elaborate on this. Levels can be trained in any world so where's the incentive and what exactly is it?

The incentive is to not just gain access to that world. I want to experience a totally new and different environment.

 

Empty spots is one of them. Go on any other world and you will see a massive amount of players on good training areas. It's nearly impossible to effectively train on Edgeville hill giants on world 1 due to overcrowding.

[Guest jrhairychest]

The incentive is to not just gain access to that world. I want to experience a totally new and different environment.

 

Empty spots is one of them. Go on any other world and you will see a massive amount of players on good training areas. It's nearly impossible to effectively train on Edgeville hill giants on world 1 due to overcrowding.

 

What sort of different environment do you think you will find? You will still find irritating players regardless of their levels.

 

As for training you'll be be up against high level players competing for resources. Why use world 1 for training when you could try a less crowded world? I'm getting the impression that you resent having to compete for things against lower level players. Am I right about this?

[wcingisbad]

What I can conclude is that you don't know about the strong correlation between spawn times and world population. :thumbdown:

 

And @ people talking about 'elitism'. Do 1000+ worlds promote elitism? Well what if jagex released 1200+ total worlds? or 1600+? or 2000+?

 

Eh.

[Guest jrhairychest]

What I can conclude is that you don't know about the strong correlation between spawn times and world population. :thumbdown:

I do so I'm assuming you're referring to Sonic as he doesn't want to work in crowded areas.

 

And @ people talking about 'elitism'. Do 1000+ worlds promote elitism? Well what if jagex released 1200+ total worlds? or 1600+? or 2000+?

 

Eh.

 

Yes. You've already made you pov clear about lower levels being an inconvenience to you. I can only take this as for some unknown reason you think you're better than them to call them this. Correct?

[wcingisbad]

What I can conclude is that you don't know about the strong correlation between spawn times and world population. :thumbdown:

I do so I'm assuming you're referring to Sonic as he doesn't want to work in crowded areas.

 

And @ people talking about 'elitism'. Do 1000+ worlds promote elitism? Well what if jagex released 1200+ total worlds? or 1600+? or 2000+?

 

Eh.

 

Yes. You've already made you pov clear about lower levels being an inconvenience to you. I can only take this as for some unknown reason you think you're better than them to call them this. Correct?

 

If you do know it then explain this:

 

"Why use world 1 for training when you could try a less crowded world?"

 

Server population =/= amount of people training at a certain spot.

 

 

And I dislike being swarmed by people asking tons of questions simultaneously. They are an inconvenience to me and I therefore choose to ignore them. What's the problem?

 

 

And you assume alot about me for someone who has never bothered to hang out in the same clan chats as I do or get along with my fellow clan mates. Just luls.

 

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

 

And how does this:

"Yes. You've already made you pov clear about lower levels being an inconvenience to you. I can only take this as for some unknown reason you think you're better than them to call them this. Correct?"

answer my question?

"And @ people talking about 'elitism'. Do 1000+ worlds promote elitism? Well what if jagex released 1200+ total worlds? or 1600+? or 2000+?"

[Guest jrhairychest]

 

If you do know it then explain this:

 

"Why use world 1 for training when you could try a less crowded world?"

 

Server population =/= amount of people training at a certain spot.

Theres a problem with swapping worlds because there might be a chance there's less people at that particular spot?

 

And I dislike being swarmed by people asking tons of questions simultaneously. They are an inconvenience to me and I therefore choose to ignore them. What's the problem?

 

 

And you assume alot about me for someone who has never bothered to hang out in the same clan chats as I do or get along with my fellow clan mates. Just luls.

 

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

You choose to ignore them, so you don't actually need a different world to do this. You talk as if other players are such an inconvenience to you as if its only you that matters or exists. Oh and the ad-hominem thing has been done before by players who don't like me challenging their arsey attitude. If you don't like it, don't post. Other players have every right to ask questions. You have every right to ignore them. Now get over yourself.

 

And how does this:

"Yes. You've already made you pov clear about lower levels being an inconvenience to you. I can only take this as for some unknown reason you think you're better than them to call them this. Correct?"

answer my question?

"And @ people talking about 'elitism'. Do 1000+ worlds promote elitism? Well what if jagex released 1200+ total worlds? or 1600+? or 2000+?"

I answered the question quite clearly with a 'yes'. I've give my reasoning in the above answer.

[Guest jrhairychest]

 

If you do know it then explain this:

 

"Why use world 1 for training when you could try a less crowded world?"

 

Server population =/= amount of people training at a certain spot.

Theres a problem with swapping worlds because there might be a chance there's less people at that particular spot?

 

And I dislike being swarmed by people asking tons of questions simultaneously. They are an inconvenience to me and I therefore choose to ignore them. What's the problem?

 

 

And you assume alot about me for someone who has never bothered to hang out in the same clan chats as I do or get along with my fellow clan mates. Just luls.

 

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

You choose to ignore them, so you don't actually need a different world to do this. You talk as if other players are such an inconvenience to you as if its only you that matters or exists. Oh and the ad-hominem thing has been done before by players who don't like me challenging their arsey attitude. If you don't like it, don't post. Other players have every right to ask questions. You have every right to ignore them. Now get over yourself.

 

And how does this:

"Yes. You've already made you pov clear about lower levels being an inconvenience to you. I can only take this as for some unknown reason you think you're better than them to call them this. Correct?"

answer my question?

"And @ people talking about 'elitism'. Do 1000+ worlds promote elitism? Well what if jagex released 1200+ total worlds? or 1600+? or 2000+?"

I answered the question quite clearly with a 'yes'. I've give my reasoning in the above answer. Do I agree with them? No. Would I use them? No.

[AgingMiser]

And I dislike being swarmed by people asking tons of questions simultaneously. They are an inconvenience to me and I therefore choose to ignore them. What's the problem?

 

And you assume alot about me for someone who has never bothered to hang out in the same clan chats as I do or get along with my fellow clan mates. Just luls.

 

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

You choose to ignore them, so you don't actually need a different world to do this. You talk as if other players are such an inconvenience to you as if its only you that matters or exists. Oh and the ad-hominem thing has been done before by players who don't like me challenging their arsey attitude. If you don't like it, don't post. Other players have every right to ask questions. You have every right to ignore them. Now get over yourself

 

Your argument implies that someone who doesn't appreciate questions is therefore an idiot with delusions of grandeur. "Other players have every right to ask questions. You have every right to ignore them. Now get over yourself." I wonder if you actually read his posts, because he's simply stating his own opinion. It's a sorry truth, but at a minimum, half of 'scape players likely have a double digit iq - and that's assuming that they have brains and not just a lump of [cabbage] in their skulls. Consequently, the questions they ask, one in ten of which is "?????????????????????????????????????[...]???????????" are generally an inconvenience because they aren't questions. It's spam that's technically a question.

 

Although a legitimate question, such as "What's the xp rate doing so and so to train this skill?" is in my opinion nothing to ignore, because it's sensible. I can also understand a lv5 asking how to make money, but someone simply begging their way through to start an account? To quote Sonic, they're being Lachtophers.

 

I personally don't agree with them. I don't see how its a crime to be asked for help by other players. I see the word 'noobs' being used more than once, but the fact is we were all 'noobs' at some point, and always will unless you're ranked number 1 because you'll always be a 'noob' to someone else. Players are always quite happy to show off to the lower levels when it suits them so take the rough with the smooth.

 

And how exactly are 1000+ total worlds a means of ignoring requests for help from other players? They're simply another high-level feature for players. Perhaps they do isolate some sects of the community, and perhaps they do encourage elitism to some extent, but for those people that say "1 h4v3 99 c00k r0f1 n00b i 0wn u" wouldn't people relatively new to the game be much better off unexposed to these people?

 

The question was "What's your opinion of 1000+ total worlds?" You've veered off on a tangent that you're unable to connect to the actual question.

 

And again, my personal opinion is that the point of 1000+ total is to be a high level requirement. 1000+ total is a joke in p2p; hence, it should be some sort of total xp requirement. I see far too many people that brag about having 1200 total and then have an amazing 7 digit total xp.

[SirRedTooth]

I really love the idea, i think they should make 2000+ total level worlds too.

Why didn't they think of this before?

[Guest jrhairychest]

Your argument implies that someone who doesn't appreciate questions is therefore an idiot with delusions of grandeur. "Other players have every right to ask questions. You have every right to ignore them. Now get over yourself." I wonder if you actually read his posts, because he's simply stating his own opinion. It's a sorry truth, but at a minimum, half of 'scape players likely have a double digit iq - and that's assuming that they have brains and not just a lump of [cabbage] in their skulls. Consequently, the questions they ask, one in ten of which is "?????????????????????????????????????[...]???????????" are generally an inconvenience because they aren't questions. It's spam that's technically a question.

 

I did read his posts. Did you? You're trying to legitimise aloof behaviour. And yes, there are some posters who should get over themselves as they seem to have a very high opinion of themselves and a very low opinion of others. I didn't actually call him an idiot as you put that in, so is that what you think? From the posts on here 1000+ worlds are wanted because:

1) Players don't want to share resources with lower levels

2) Players don't want to ask questions posed to them by lower levels. I've seen higher levels spam and write dumb stuff just the same as lower levels so its not exclusive to lower levels.

 

You're forgetting RS is a game. It isn't your own exclusive VIP club. Lower levels need higher levels to learn from and for inspiration.

 

Although a legitimate question, such as "What's the xp rate doing so and so to train this skill?" is in my opinion nothing to ignore, because it's sensible. I can also understand a lv5 asking how to make money, but someone simply begging their way through to start an account? To quote Sonic, they're being Lachtophers.

Begging occurs everywhere. Educating players is the way to stop begging by showing them how to make money or giving them ideas, not to just run away from them.

 

And how exactly are 1000+ total worlds a means of ignoring requests for help from other players? They're simply another high-level feature for players. Perhaps they do isolate some sects of the community, and perhaps they do encourage elitism to some extent, but for those people that say "1 h4v3 99 c00k r0f1 n00b i 0wn u" wouldn't people relatively new to the game be much better off unexposed to these people?

 

The question was "What's your opinion of 1000+ total worlds?" You've veered off on a tangent that you're unable to connect to the actual question.

 

And again, my personal opinion is that the point of 1000+ total is to be a high level requirement. 1000+ total is a joke in p2p; hence, it should be some sort of total xp requirement. I see far too many people that brag about having 1200 total and then have an amazing 7 digit total xp.

 

You're already conceding that some sections of the community will be isolated and it encourage elitism so why are you telling me I've veered off when I've answered this already? :huh: . Does being called a noob really hurt you that much that you need the protection of a 1000+ world? If you think this treatment is harsh then higher levels are not much better and players will call you a noob in those worlds too. What makes you so special that you think you deserve to be in a seperate world from lower levels, regardless of total XP or total level?

[DemonicSushi]

:thumbsup: BEST THING EVER :thumbsup:

 

No level 3 spammers in grand exchange !!!