Does it even Acomplish anything?

[Danny_TeamDan]

Alright so there has been some more inturuption on the declaration posts. I've wanted to post this before but it seems more appropriate now..

 

 

Clan A declares on Clan B

 

Member of Clan C/D/E etc./ and so on Has to post on the topic:

 

1. ooooooooooooooooo gl liek so xctited for uuuuu dawgss

2. nah idiot u shld do _____ or _____ in those rules ttolay nut fairman!!@

3. I see you are having some problems, perhaps _____ or ______ blank would be fair? GL figuring it out, if you have troubles stop by in #clans and ask a TWR mod to help!

4. omg hi <3:

5. i will watch this/ can't wait till the rules are decided i will watch or w/e

 

Okay... so number 1. Seriously, I'm glad for you but can't you stop by their forums or irc and say that? Gain your post count like a true poster; in Clan Discussions or wars and run ins [ Even in wars in run ins gratz isn't true post count but atleast it's not to spammy ]

 

Number 2... I can be guilty for this time to time but it honnestly doesn't solve the problem... You aren't even in the clan let them figure it out. It's just going to result in some flame war.

 

Number 3. If you are going to post and aren't in either clan I highly suggest something like that...if not gtfo.

 

Number 4. Hi spammer.

 

Number 5 is similar to number 1 but like people say oo can't wait before the rules are set, just kinda annoying to me.

 

In summary if you aren't in Clan A or B don't post on it :l

 

Situation 2:

 

Clan A declares on Clan B

 

Clan Member from A or B decides to put their thoughts in... NO STAY OFF THE TOPIC. Seriously that's why TWR was structured to have a certain amount of Ranked officals to deal with declaration topics.

 

If you post gl then alright but even then annoys me.. if you have a problem or suggestion pm your leader on irc/forums/in game and let them know.

 

Situation 3:

 

Clan A declares on Clan B

 

Offical #1 sets up the initial post. Offical #1 from clan B responds.

 

Offical #2 steps in from either clan and starts changing the whole rules that offical #1's were working on. etc..

 

Some clans [ not many but thought it should be brought up ] Have 3-5 Clan Officals trying to resolve the rules....I'm fine with it but the way they go about it is horrible. They don't even discuss it amongst each other..This is where irc comes in handy, have a private channel for your clans ranks to help discuss or do it via pm in irc. Figure out something worth posting before you post it. Don't have all 3-5 post it either. only one.

 

 

So some of my points are extremly opinionated [ posted omg cant wait / gl etc type of stuff ] But the rest of it we should all get on the same page. Don't post on it if it's not your clan, and if you're not a clan offical for your clan.

 

Some Questions to Discuss:

 

How many Clan Officals will post on one war declaration?

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

 

 

 

My answers:

 

How many Clan Officals will post on one war declaration?

N/A my clan isn't on TWR anymore. But when I ran mine we had 1 [ me ] and ocasionally another.

 

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

1-2

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

Very, especially when they are throwing out rules that they want, which don't reflect the other officals wants.

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

Nah just annoys them and makes them rage, generally resulting in them arguing with some facts that aren't even about Clan A or B but the clan the random comments came from.

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

Free Bumps ?

 

OCD RAGE MESSAGE TO PEOPLE WHO POST A RESPONSE:

 

Please Bold the questions/color them, space the answers from them. Or Color/bold the answers. Thanks

[generaldesor]

you mad bro?

 

RAGETOPIC detected tbh.

 

How many Clan Officals will post on one war declaration?It would be useful if only 1 form each clan,2 if really needed

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?shouldnt take more than 5

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out? Hell yes

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?Yes, some officials, some dont really mind.

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?Yes

[Amateurnoob]

GL getting TIF Mod

 

OT: Agreed.

 

 

How many Clan Officals will post on one war declaration?

I believe 1-2 as it shouldn't take more than this if one cannot post on a certain day the other should be able to. I do not agree with other leaders posting different rules on the same topic it's way too confusing.

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

1.... however it depends with some clans that won't ever agree with rules (insert SPECIFIC clan name here)

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

Yes extremely in past experiences with (insert SPECIFIC clan name here) I have had to hear rules from one leader saying full out, another leader saying cap of 35 another saying +/-3 then another saying cap of 30 and then back to +/- 3 its like WTFBBQ?

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

No, it just causes for more clutter and harder to find actual posts, however its humorous in certain cases.

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

As stated above its humorous for the community, not for the clans discussing or the Mods. Ninane+Stu+YGUY <3:

[HellzTaxi]

Im no offical but...

 

How many Clan Officals should post on one war declaration?

1-2

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

1-2, date seems to take longest lol

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

More confusion it seems

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

I wouldn't think so

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

No

[Slayer128]

In summary if you aren't in Clan A or B don't post on it :l

that goes against the whole point of a community forum. its a place where u can post thoughts, debate and congratulate or wish a clan good luck. If you dont want people that aren't involved in the fight to post, go declare on their forums.

 

for tip.it the more post they have the more active their boards appear and they get paid more to have ads on the site. obviously they dont want massive threads filled with spam because they will lose people who get annoyed by it but there really isnt any harm in posting "gl clan b" or "im rooting for clan a" on a declaration topic.

[Danny_TeamDan]

In summary if you aren't in Clan A or B don't post on it :l

that goes against the whole point of a community forum. its a place where u can post thoughts, debate and congratulate or wish a clan good luck. If you dont want people that aren't involved in the fight to post, go declare on their forums.

 

for tip.it the more post they have the more active their boards appear and they get paid more to have ads on the site. obviously they dont want massive threads filled with spam because they will lose people who get annoyed by it but there really isnt any harm in posting "gl clan b" or "im rooting for clan a" on a declaration topic.

Re-read the other stuff, those are my opinions that you shot down which is fine. Just think if you are going to take the time to say gl or something why not actually take some time to post more in Clan Discussion or Wars and run ins Section. Generating more meaningful debates that aren't based off flames etc.

 

I don't think it's time for debate mode unless you are a clan offical that is in either clan A or B. Not sure if you even notice some of the stuff that goes on here but it can get really messy and Stu himself said it earlier it's not doing anything and pretty soon the mods may just not allow some stuff. Which would be bad.

 

As for posting on different forums you are allowed to come up with rules in irc/other forums/in game even as long as you post it on Tip.it Boards with proof so the war is set up. Most people, atleast when i did it.. used irc. This lead all my declaration topics to be under 3 pages and was a lot more effective. But yeah they kinda have to post no matter what eventually and some people will still start fighting by the looks of recent problems.

[Thehitman324]

How many Clan Officials will post on one war declaration?

 

How many "Will" or "Should"? You dumb? Anyways 2 officials is all you need, like the above has stated having 10 officials saying different rules is really a pain in the ezz.

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

1-2 but if your here for free points and your declaring then it will go 5+

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officials [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

 

umm duh, you can't agree on rules if all the freaking officials are throwing out different stuff and never discuss the rules together, just shows how fail their leadership is.

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

 

not really no, idfc if other agrees with a clan, I go with my fair rules if not gtfo my topic feg.

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely interrupt another clans declaration topic?

 

Depends if it's a spam or troll, if it's a troll to a clan I hate then I just lol ,if vice-versa then it's annoying. Spam is always annoying but what can you say, plp will do anything for some e-post count.

[Neltak]

How many Clan Officals will post on one war declaration?

 

I'm a firm believer that only one Clan Official should post and negotiate the set of rules for each individual fight. It may take a little longer to work out the rules, but it also most definitely makes it easier for the opposing Clan Official to negotiate back in a non-cluttered topic. Clan Officials are given the power to negotiate wars because they are able to get fair/good wars for their clan (at least I hope thats why each clan chooses their Clan Official), so countermanding another's negotiations makes it look like there's disagreements within your clan.

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

 

1 for most, and 2 when dates are hard to work out. Most Clan Officials can understand what a fight requires to be fair yet still give their clan a slight advantage so it still may be accepted by the opposition in a compromise (I'm all for fairness but don't kid yourselves, clans war to try and win). Emphasis on SLIGHT.

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

 

Very. IMO only one Clan Official from each clan should be putting rules out and everybody else is a hazard. To any others that wish to post: GTFO unless the war has been negotiated and you want to express a "good luck".

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

 

Doubt it. I'm not a Clan Official and therefore don't negotiate, but I think that negotiations go faster without suggestions from others. Others posting can lead to confusion between the Clan Officials negotiating and tend to just clutter up topics.

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

 

No, and there's not really any practical reason to interrupt other's topics. Though a post of good luck to clans and/or speculations about the war on the topic ONCE ALL NEGOTIATIONS ARE COMPLETED are acceptable posts imo.

 

Personally that's how I view these declaration topics and what I consider acceptable behavior on them. Yes I've gone against what I've posted here, but those were during a moment of weakness when certain idiotic things that were being said/done/not getting done annoyed me enough to overrule reason.

[Mago]

How many Clan Officals will post on one war declaration?

As much as we can saying only good luck but not rules.

 

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

3-4

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

Nope. Just a msn meeting.

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

Ignore them lol.

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

Flames from other clans when their topic is up too.

[Mister_T]

I dont get it :angry:

[thiesje]

How many Clan Officals will post on one war declaration?

2, one from each side.

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

Depends, usually 1 or 2. W141 clans tend to be extremely stubborn though, can take up to 8 pages or so.

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

I'd rather just arrange wars via IRC or PM.

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

No.

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

Yes, e-rep.

[Youmu]

I'm not a clan official and am not interested in clans but I just feel like answering questions.

 

How many Clan Officals will post on one war declaration?

You mean should? If so then 1-2. If not then any number.

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

Probably 2-3 pages.

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

It really depends on the rules. If they mostly agree then fine. If they are all different, that is going to be painful.

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

Not really. Most just ignore these comments anyway.

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

Lulz.

[obfuscator]

How many Clan Officals will post on one war declaration?

Generally no more than 2 from each clan.

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

1 to 2.

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals wether from your clan or the others putting rules out?

Obviously I'm not setting up TWR wars but the thing that I find confusing is the posting of rules etc by officials not in the clans that are declaring.

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

Doubt it.

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

I'm sure some e-ego's increase. Also we all know what they say about big post count.

[Nobody]

It depends on the clans, if clans discuss the rules on the topic it can be a couple pages easily if they post once they've arranged rules it can be one page. For all practical purposes one at max two officials should be posting on a declaration. The extra comments don't seem to do anything except sometimes give a new idea nobody thought of (though normally they're not) and are mostly so people can express their opinion and get post count if that is their goal.

[Beckingham]

What's the point of a community forum if you aren't allowed to post unless you have a certain rank?

 

How many Clan Officals will post on one war declaration?

Idealy only one from each, but timezones often make this hard

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

As many as it takes to get a fair war for both clans, I don't think there should be a limit on the page count

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

Extremely

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

No

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

Yes. If a clan (Let's not beat around the bush anymore, this topic is obviously about the Dv declarations) continuously makes ridiculous declarations and disrespects other clans then people should voice their disapproval, otherwise nothing will change.

[infinitone]

How many Clan Officals will post on one war declaration?

1

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

1-2

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

Yes

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

No, but they are annoying.

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

Ask someone that does it.

[Uffan5]

How many Clan Officals will post on one war declaration?

1, if their are multiple Clan Officials they should discuss the war somewhere else before posting their decisions.

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

1, that is if only clan officials post, but no more than 2.

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

Yes, and annoying, refer to question 1 for a solution.

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

No, when i was a Clan Official i didnt pay any attention to them.

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

No, but there most likely wasn't anything being accomplished in the first place if someone comes to that decision.

[MuffinBoy]

I think we should settle all conflicts in a set of concise far rules for both parties. My suggestion:

 

 

ALL WARS WILL TAKE PLACE IN W 141

No friends are allowed!

4 pm est in order to accommodate for Indians and other minorities!

All styles allowed!

Turrets Map

Strength Pots Allowed

Pray Allowed

No Food

Last clan standing is winner!

[indianishere]

I think we should settle all conflicts in a set of concise far rules for both parties. My suggestion:

 

 

ALL WARS WILL TAKE PLACE IN W 141

No friends are allowed!

4 pm est in order to accommodate for Indians and other minorities!

All styles allowed!

Turrets Map

Strength Pots Allowed

Pray Allowed

No Food

Last clan standing is winner!

 

I would suggest you get your timezones correct, 4pm est would be 02:30 hrs or 2:30 am , do you think that's the time a clan war should be starting for Indian's ? Already twr wars start at 00:30 hrs for us when its 2 pm est.

[Pan_Nx]

How many Clan Officials will post on one war declaration?

N/A for mine but I could care less how many officials post on one war declaration topic.

 

 

How many pages do you think it should take to finish the declaration?

Just 1. Take it to IRC boys, it's much easier. I don't have a problem with clan officials going back and forth on a topic, just it's more time consuming for the two clans.

 

Is it hard to communicate when there are several officals [ wether from your clan or the others ] putting rules out?

Officials from both parties should talk before hand and agree upon what they want. If they don't want to do that, then send in a solo official.

 

Do the extra comments from others actually pressure the clans to accept rules faster?

Not on a topic. Maybe if clan members are saying something in something like IRC, sure. But not on a topic.

 

Is anything accomplished [ other than free post count ] When you rudely inturupt another clans declaration topic?

Not really.

[Metallic10]

my post got deleted >: l

 

yes it does accomplish stuff