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The Hegemony (12th Feb = 2018, Part 2)

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Well essentially the United States is in a hole because it has a debt with large amounts of interest, and it keeps spending too much. Assuming that it reigns in spending, China and Japan (two large debt holders) could reduce interest rates close to 0%.

 

Then, the United States would convert to algae fuel and purchase it from Japan for approximately 2 dollars a gallon, making a profit by taxing it 50%, earning approximately 200 billion dollars a year.

 

(Debt is about 10 trillion dollars btw)

Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county!

 

Former moderator of the original Dungeoneering

Former moderator of Ye Olde Hegemony

Moderator of the remake of Dungeoneering

Former Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)

Former President of the United States (Hegemony)

Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)

Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony

 

 

The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile.

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So your going to lose money... to help another country make money?

It's a REALLY big shaft.

I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.

how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time?

Good plan...though the USA would have to decrease the number of dollars by 200 Billion a year, otherwise the money would just go back into circulation and get nobody anywhere.

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

3/5 days done for the annexation of france. A certain project has been changed names to project cancer and... well thats all I can think of as of now.

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Algae fuel is relatively cheap, I'd still be making money. I'm already doing the same deal with Germany-France, so they're earning a lot as well.

 

Japan (country, not the empire...I mean group of republics) requests membership into TFTA and FETA, since leadership of TFTA passed to Russia, and might not be banning Japan anymore.

 

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The US would send the money to Japan/China to pay back the debt that the US owes us. :P

Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county!

 

Former moderator of the original Dungeoneering

Former moderator of Ye Olde Hegemony

Moderator of the remake of Dungeoneering

Former Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)

Former President of the United States (Hegemony)

Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)

Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony

 

 

The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile.

Ban stands... Its over soon anyway, I dont know when.... Also are you allowed to be in multiple trade unions?

It's a REALLY big shaft.

I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.

how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time?

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China and Japan wouldn't be enough to dissolve the deficit (according to Archi).

 

China has already agreed to lower interest rates to 0% since I withdrew from the TFTA.

 

Ban stands... Its over soon anyway, I dont know when.... Also are you allowed to be in multiple trade unions?

 

Yes. Oh, and trade unions =/= evil mastermind plans to take over countries or whatnot. They're not even political obligations where you can say "All TFTA countries invade Germany."

SWAG

 

Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on.

Yeah-

 

Right...So basically you are going to charge the American people 200 Billion Dollars a year, which they will never get back.... You are looking at a massive fall in GDP because America will become soooooo poor.

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

Well didn't the US lower the returns on bonds to 0% anyways? I don't quite remember. Anyways, 200 billion is roughly 2% of the debt. I'm pretty sure the interest rate of the debt at this point is lower than that, so it would go down. Even if it doesn't, it stops it from going up. So what do you say? If you cut spending a few hundred billion, it would make a difference. Maybe say that Healthcare reform worked. :P

Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county!

 

Former moderator of the original Dungeoneering

Former moderator of Ye Olde Hegemony

Moderator of the remake of Dungeoneering

Former Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)

Former President of the United States (Hegemony)

Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)

Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony

 

 

The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile.

I never planned to use the TFTA as that, infact I'm only using it for economy...

It's a REALLY big shaft.

I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.

how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time?

Yeah-

 

Right...So basically you are going to charge the American people 200 Billion Dollars a year, which they will never get back.... You are looking at a massive fall in GDP because America will become soooooo poor.

 

I am selling my algae fuel at a cheaper price than oil companies, with the US government taxing to make the rate the same. So the public pays the same amount of money, but the money goes to Japan and the United States rather than oil companies.

Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county!

 

Former moderator of the original Dungeoneering

Former moderator of Ye Olde Hegemony

Moderator of the remake of Dungeoneering

Former Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)

Former President of the United States (Hegemony)

Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)

Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony

 

 

The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile.

So...Basically...If America joins the third world it can get out of debt....Well it would certainly destroy the world economy.

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

What? I think you're misunderstanding the economy here. The money is leaving the United States regardless of what happens. Infact, using my idea, more money stays in the United States, since it's being taxed more.

Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county!

 

Former moderator of the original Dungeoneering

Former moderator of Ye Olde Hegemony

Moderator of the remake of Dungeoneering

Former Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)

Former President of the United States (Hegemony)

Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)

Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony

 

 

The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile.

am selling my algae fuel at a cheaper price than oil companies, with the US government taxing to make the rate the same. So the public pays the same amount of money, but the money goes to Japan and the United States rather than oil companies.

 

 

Retech, the American people do not have an unlimited amount of money. ALL of the money taken out by Taxes goes back into the economy, or goes though the balance of trade, representing a small deficet or surplus. Its a cycle...

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

am selling my algae fuel at a cheaper price than oil companies, with the US government taxing to make the rate the same. So the public pays the same amount of money, but the money goes to Japan and the United States rather than oil companies.

 

 

Retech, the American people do not have an unlimited amount of money. ALL of the money taken out by Taxes goes back into the economy, or goes though the balance of trade, representing a small deficet or surplus. Its a cycle...

 

That's true, but it basically means that the cycle goes through more reiterations, which is essentially the point. Better to buy 5 barrels of oil and lose your money than buy 3 barrels and lose your money. Also reducing the deficit. Besides, the taxes would go to repaying the debt, of which some would head to Japan and China.

Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county!

 

Former moderator of the original Dungeoneering

Former moderator of Ye Olde Hegemony

Moderator of the remake of Dungeoneering

Former Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)

Former President of the United States (Hegemony)

Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)

Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony

 

 

The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile.

That's true, but it basically means that the cycle goes through more reiterations, which is essentially the point. Better to buy 5 barrels of oil and lose your money than buy 3 barrels and lose your money. Also reducing the deficit. Besides, the taxes would go to repaying the debt, of which some would head to Japan and China.

 

Sigh....Americans spend money buying American Oil or from American Companies, the American Companies pay Americans to work...

Japan pays Japanese people to work, and if it sells to America then American Oil Companies don't pay Americans to work, and thus Americans don't have money and thus Americans can't buy oil...

Well I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts.

Except that America import 4.7 million barrels of oil yearly, which converts to 197,500,000 gallons of oil imported yearly. So it's either you buy 3 dollar gasoline from Iraq or 2 dollar gasoline-equivilant from Japan. :thumbsup:

 

Not really a comparison with American oil companies.

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Former moderator of the original Dungeoneering

Former moderator of Ye Olde Hegemony

Moderator of the remake of Dungeoneering

Former Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)

Former President of the United States (Hegemony)

Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)

Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony

 

 

The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile.

Nothing much new going on for the PRC besides several projects.

 

Research:

Surgical robot: (6/7)

Classified project II: (1/5)

Improved fuel cells: (2/6)

 

Annexation:

Cambodia: (3/5)

The sour dough of the epitmous pie hungers for another's sweet lips to be dulled into a state of most irreverant humbleness

TUBULAR BELLS!

Well that is a lot. Anyways, lots of that has to be imported, since obviously the US can't get it all out of the ground. :thumbsup:

Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county!

 

Former moderator of the original Dungeoneering

Former moderator of Ye Olde Hegemony

Moderator of the remake of Dungeoneering

Former Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)

Former President of the United States (Hegemony)

Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)

Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony

 

 

The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile.

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Political talks continue with Pakistan. The Indian president is drafting a Nuclear Peace treaty in the hope that the earlier defusing of India's nuclear weaponry would encourage Pakistan to defuse its nuclear weaponry.

 

Pakistan has a nuclear arsenal?

 

That is in violation of the Geneva Treaty and means that Pakistan is subject to immediate invasion from the international community.

 

@Retech:

 

The USA declines Japan's offer. The US government refuses to outsource American jobs.

SWAG

 

Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on.

Is anyone helping me in Palestine?

 

Sere/Arch can you update the front page?:

 

EDIT: Nvm, it was updated already :)

-Arch

 

No one expects that all of America's demands are met by American companies. That's why American politicians are always talking about energy security.

 

-Dusty

 

What's going on in Palestine?

 

-Rocco and Sere

 

I think all Nuclear weapons were basically disbanded automatically when the game started, so they would have to build new ones.

Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county!

 

Former moderator of the original Dungeoneering

Former moderator of Ye Olde Hegemony

Moderator of the remake of Dungeoneering

Former Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)

Former President of the United States (Hegemony)

Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)

Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony

 

 

The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile.

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