i_love_burritos Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Wasn't this in Spiderman 2 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate_Felix Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 No. This wont happen, it will take like 30-40 years before we can succesfully make hydrogen fusion profitable. [hide]Felix, je moeder.Je moeder felixJe vader, felix.Felix, je oma.Felix, je ongelofelijk gave pwnaze avatar B)Felix, je moeder.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Inc Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Wasn't this in Spiderman 2 ? Beatcha to it ;) And as I think Lent already said, aren't we already doing a form of fusion? I have all the 99s, and have been playing since 2001. Comped 4/30/15 My Araxxi Kills: 459::Araxxi Drops(KC):Araxxi Hilts: 4x Eye (14/126/149/459), Web - (100) Fang (193) Araxxi Legs Completed: 5 ---Top (69/206/234/292/361), Middle (163/176/278/343/395), Bottom (135/256/350/359/397)Boss Pets: Supreme - 848 KCIf you play Xbox One - Add me! GT: Urtehnoes - Currently on a Destiny binge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markup Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawson_criterionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_energy_gain_factor Pretty much explains the current problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate_Felix Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawson_criterionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_energy_gain_factor Pretty much explains the current problemsWhat this guy saysFusion exists, it just isnt profitable yet. [hide]Felix, je moeder.Je moeder felixJe vader, felix.Felix, je oma.Felix, je ongelofelijk gave pwnaze avatar B)Felix, je moeder.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I dislike when stories like these get topics made about them, generally you get a few fear mongering people along with many who are willing to listen to non-sense (see the LHC topic) and that just annoys me. SCIENTISTS ARE SMARTER THAN YOU OR I. They know what is safe or not, and in this case creating mini-suns is just as safe as creating mini black holes with the LHC. While these have amazing attributes for their size, they are so small that they are nothing to worry about at all. Also everyone should know about fusion reactors and that they don't get invented until 2050. (SimCity 2000) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortilliachp Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawson_criterionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_energy_gain_factor Pretty much explains the current problems whew, after that first page, I was getting scared noone knew anything about the topic, but just decided to post anyway. A thrid major problem is the infrastructure required to perform empirical tests. Basically, the reactions that take place are too complex to be modelled by common physics, even emperically it can be hard to judge what you are obvserving because of extreme temperatures, and neccessary self-containment of the fuel in a fusion reactor. Basically, it's all guessing to a certain extent, then testing it out, rinsing and repeating untill you get better. That costst a lot of money, with very small economic gains (other than tiny steps in the right direction), thus financiation of fusion research is a very very big problem. The theories seem sound (if the Standard Model exchange particles are reliable), but even that cannot be judged (lengths of 10^-31 meters is kinda hard to obvserve, not to speak of interactions and charge). Therefore, even if seemingly valid, well margined models of improving a fusion reactor appear, which happens regularly, state financiation is a must, and the economic situation, politically, in terms of ageing populations and so on make this really hard to justify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maze Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 So a tiny sun? Won't that completely melt earth? :ohnoes:Tiny sun? That so reminds me of Spider-Man 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous1234 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 So a tiny sun? Won't that completely melt earth? :ohnoes:Tiny sun? That so reminds me of Spider-Man 2.If I had a nickel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyTheSailor Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 I dislike when stories like these get topics made about them, generally you get a few fear mongering people along with many who are willing to listen to non-sense (see the LHC topic) and that just annoys me. SCIENTISTS ARE SMARTER THAN YOU OR I. They know what is safe or not, and in this case creating mini-suns is just as safe as creating mini black holes with the LHC. While these have amazing attributes for their size, they are so small that they are nothing to worry about at all. Also everyone should know about fusion reactors and that they don't get invented until 2050. (SimCity 2000)You should never completely trust scientists. Look through history, they believed cutting you made you better, something heavier than air couldn't possibly fly, the sun orbited the earth. We assume all too quickly that we are different. God dammit Seany, STOP SHARING MY MIND" I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin. I'm not going to live there. There's no place for me there... I'm a monster.What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 So a tiny sun? Won't that completely melt earth? :ohnoes:Tiny sun? That so reminds me of Spider-Man 2. The tiny sun that is around a foot across in SM2 is millions of times bigger than what is happening with this nuclear fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Look! Somebody threw a rock...it's like a mini asteroid...crashing on earth! 2012! "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastortoise Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I dislike when stories like these get topics made about them, generally you get a few fear mongering people along with many who are willing to listen to non-sense (see the LHC topic) and that just annoys me. SCIENTISTS ARE SMARTER THAN YOU OR I. They know what is safe or not, and in this case creating mini-suns is just as safe as creating mini black holes with the LHC. While these have amazing attributes for their size, they are so small that they are nothing to worry about at all. Also everyone should know about fusion reactors and that they don't get invented until 2050. (SimCity 2000)You should never completely trust scientists. Look through history, they believed cutting you made you better, something heavier than air couldn't possibly fly, the sun orbited the earth. We assume all too quickly that we are different.What? Cutting yourself does make you better... you just have to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Fusion is the holy grail of energy, I think a lot more energy should be invested in it. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodeous4 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 A tiny sun? *facedesk* Oh dear, that's dumbing it down A LOT! And not even dumbing it down particularly accurately... But I think fusion is worth investing in, we just need to be able to make it profitable and to be able to control it safely. It seems to me to be a brilliant solution, the Holy Grail you might say, of energy. Hit me up on LastFM to see my music taste and chat :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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