I_am_Geed Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Punch things. Lots of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 soo..since it's been said before, that instantly makes it invalid?I don't see the problem in saying something that's been said before, as long as it's a valid statement Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Still don't get it.All right let me cut straight to the chase here son, because you obviously haven't been on this boat long enough. And I say boat as in forum just incase that slips past your head too. The argument that slayer is the "best" form of cb training or strength training in this case is as old as these forums. Different strokes for different folks. I'll leave it at that.What he's saying is that his "stroke" is to train str and other combat stats through slayer; just because you don't like the way he trains and gives advice to others doesn't mean his opinion is flat our wrong. Also saying a stance is old or has been repeated a lot doesn't imply that the argument is invalid or outdated... http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22 99 Necromancy since 11/22/25 Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 33 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 10 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 soo..since it's been said before, that instantly makes it invalid?I don't see the problem in saying something that's been said before, as long as it's a valid statement There's a pretty famous rant started by an equally famous member, compfreak847. I always knew him to be right up there with the super analytical types like zaaps1, bladewing, and morionic. Some of the arguments he's made are a little outdated with the release of new items and such, but it's a good read. 80+ pages of replies also says something too. Slayer Sucks Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 soo..since it's been said before, that instantly makes it invalid?I don't see the problem in saying something that's been said before, as long as it's a valid statement There's a pretty famous rant started by an equally famous member, compfreak847. I always knew him to be right up there with the super analytical types like zaaps1, bladewing, and morionic. Some of the arguments he's made are a little outdated with the release of new items and such, but it's a good read. 80+ pages of replies also says something too. Slayer SucksBut unlike zaaps1, bladewing, and morionic (atleast i think so) comp didn't like slayer at all. If you like slayer or plan on training it AT ALL, its a good decision to train slayer while at a lower combat so you don't end up wasting time getting maxed melee before slayer. Some people might say its better to get maxed then do slayer, but thats up to the person. I myself have trained all/most of my stats through slayer, including range and magic. I even plan on maxing range and magic through slayer. Yes i know there are better ways, faster ways, more economical ways, but its what i choose to do. I rather kill different creatures then one creature or camp at a bank casting spells. To the OP: If you rather camp a single monster to get the rest of your exp, then you have plenty of examples listed already. If you rather have a little variety then try out slayer. Or you can always do a little of both. Either way pick something that you enjoy, because if you don't enjoy it then it will most likely take twice as long then doing something you do enjoy. [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 soo..since it's been said before, that instantly makes it invalid?I don't see the problem in saying something that's been said before, as long as it's a valid statement There's a pretty famous rant started by an equally famous member, compfreak847. I always knew him to be right up there with the super analytical types like zaaps1, bladewing, and morionic. Some of the arguments he's made are a little outdated with the release of new items and such, but it's a good read. 80+ pages of replies also says something too. Slayer SucksBut unlike zaaps1, bladewing, and morionic (atleast i think so) comp didn't like slayer at all. If you like slayer or plan on training it AT ALL, its a good decision to train slayer while at a lower combat so you don't end up wasting time getting maxed melee before slayer. Some people might say its better to get maxed then do slayer, but thats up to the person.Nah, compfreak admitted that slayer was one of his favorite skills. But the rant is still obsolete now with additions like Kuradal, her dungeon, and task-only strykewyrms making slayer significantly faster and more competitive (compared to camping) than it used to be, particularly at higher levels. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Nah, compfreak admitted that slayer was one of his favorite skills. But the rant is still obsolete now with additions like Kuradal, her dungeon, and task-only strykewyrms making slayer significantly faster and more competitive (compared to camping) than it used to be, particularly at higher levels. Yeah I got the feeling his rant was more of a "Bleh, I like it, but I know it sucks." I was under the impression that strykewryms were actually pretty bad for xp and were just another decent money maker. Kuradal's dungeon with ferocious rings definitely brings slayer into line, but that still doesn't change the fact that monsters like metals aren't the fastest sources of XP. From what I've heard and read, people get around 60 and even 70k/h with maxed stats, extremes, turmoil, steel titans, and cannoning wherever they can. It's still a pretty slow skill and it's a lot slower if you don't have those aforementioned assets. Money-wise green dragons are still often better in a lot of cases. Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 un4given take your joindate elitism and leave, honestly a relatively recent joindate does not make his opinion invalid. /rant I would say slayer, if you enjoy it, if you don't whatever monster you do enjoy (be it watching tv at SoS spiders, or powering waterfiends) in any case, use a saradomin sword and super sets. And (possibley) piety or 10% prayers. DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geesch Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 If you want to camp a monster, and cant do armoured zombies (best xp) or dharock, you could try ghouls. They are pretty fast exp raking in about 65k exp an hour (when i use extreme pure sets). If you do go for them, bring 3 pure sets, and like 15 tuna and you can last for like 4 hours without banking. Dont wear degradable armour. I usually just wear rune, fighter torso, and the remaining 'standard' equipment. If you have bandos, use it here. Although ghouls may seem undead, they are not, so a salve ammy is not effective here at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un4given Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 un4given take your joindate elitism and leave, honestly a relatively recent joindate does not make his opinion invalid. /rantUnfortunately the op wasn't very specific and left us up in the air when it comes to training. I was merely pointing out in my first post this forums strong obsession with slayer, which was true several years ago as it is today. Then yadda yadda my method is horrible yadda yadda slayer is best because yadda yadda yadda same [cabbage] that was said years ago as pointed out in the slayer sucks rant. It all boils down to preferences which basically sums up every argument for and against slayer. Keep ranting kid. The truth hurts. If you want to camp a monster, and cant do armoured zombies (best xp) or dharock, you could try ghouls. They are pretty fast exp raking in about 65k exp an hour (when i use extreme pure sets). If you do go for them, bring 3 pure sets, and like 15 tuna and you can last for like 4 hours without banking. Dont wear degradable armour. I usually just wear rune, fighter torso, and the remaining 'standard' equipment. If you have bandos, use it here. Although ghouls may seem undead, they are not, so a salve ammy is not effective here at all.Oh what is this? A nice descriptive post rather than [cabbage]ting out a slayer post and leaving it on the doorstep. Disregard females. Acquire currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 What I don't get is why you seemed to target me with this, I never shoved Slayer at him saying it was the best option. I just said that if he has any future plans to train slayer to do it now. If not, then by all means, camp at a monster. Heck, in my first post, the only mention about slayer was me telling you why so many people liked it. I never actually gave it to him as a suggestion for training. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 un4given take your joindate elitism and leave, honestly a relatively recent joindate does not make his opinion invalid. /rantUnfortunately the op wasn't very specific and left us up in the air when it comes to training. I was merely pointing out in my first post this forums strong obsession with slayer, which was true several years ago as it is today. Then yadda yadda my method is horrible yadda yadda slayer is best because yadda yadda yadda same [cabbage] that was said years ago as pointed out in the slayer sucks rant. It all boils down to preferences which basically sums up every argument for and against slayer. Keep ranting kid. The truth hurts. oh wait...I already said that. un4given take your joindate elitism and leave, honestly a relatively recent joindate does not make his opinion invalid. /rant I would say slayer, if you enjoy it, if you don't whatever monster you do enjoy (be it watching tv at SoS spiders, or powering waterfiends) in any case, use a saradomin sword and super sets. And (possibley) piety or 10% prayers. DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Have you guys ever taken into consideration that he might not want to max out slayer eventually? Not everyone is wanting to max out, or has the extra couple hundred hours to max melee through slayer. If he can make money in a different way faster than slayer (ALOT of possibilities), then he can just buy the item when it comes out, assuming there will be one (are we forgetting strykwyrms, kuradals? Wow, some people sure want a lot of updates for themselves). Taking that into account, if he doesn't want to max out slayer, then it'd be a good idea to not train with it. Even if he eventually wanted 80 slayer or something and is in no hurry, it would be much faster to train at a faster spot first, then move onto slayer, as you get more slayer exp the better your combat stats are. So PLEASE, stop suggesting slayer for everyone, then get all defensive when others suggest something else. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un4given Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 un4given take your joindate elitism and leave, honestly a relatively recent joindate does not make his opinion invalid. /rantUnfortunately the op wasn't very specific and left us up in the air when it comes to training. I was merely pointing out in my first post this forums strong obsession with slayer, which was true several years ago as it is today. Then yadda yadda my method is horrible yadda yadda slayer is best because yadda yadda yadda same [cabbage] that was said years ago as pointed out in the slayer sucks rant. It all boils down to preferences which basically sums up every argument for and against slayer. Keep ranting kid. The truth hurts. oh wait...I already said that. I suggest you reread my post you quoted. You're obviously upset and it's not registering with you. Try counting backwards from ten and then reread. thanks. :) Disregard females. Acquire currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Have you guys ever taken into consideration that he might not want to max out slayer eventually? Not everyone is wanting to max out, or has the extra couple hundred hours to max melee through slayer. If he can make money in a different way faster than slayer (ALOT of possibilities), then he can just buy the item when it comes out, assuming there will be one (are we forgetting strykwyrms, kuradals? Wow, some people sure want a lot of updates for themselves). Taking that into account, if he doesn't want to max out slayer, then it'd be a good idea to not train with it. Even if he eventually wanted 80 slayer or something and is in no hurry, it would be much faster to train at a faster spot first, then move onto slayer, as you get more slayer exp the better your combat stats are. So PLEASE, stop suggesting slayer for everyone, then get all defensive when others suggest something else. :rolleyes: Considering I, and others in this thread, have given suggestions other then Slayer, I don't see why you posted this. And if anything, other people are getting defensive, much like this useless post you just made :P Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Slayer is not what it was a year ago. It's now a very competitive way to max combat. The only thing that Compfreak was ever right about was that there are faster ways to get PURE melee experience than slayer. He tried very hard to make slayer seem like a total waste of time. Countless people proved him wrong in everything but his melee experience argument. I believe D Jay99 proved on that thread that at the time, slayer provided more total experience than armored zombies. That's even more true now. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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