anim7 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 While playing Fist of Guthix, I was constantly called a "nerd", "loser", and even some obscenities - all for merely running away. I don't understand why people can get so mad for me playing my role, the hunted. After all, I'd chase after my prey if I was a hunter. Not sure if the other people who even posted play FOG. The majority of people playing fog are there to TRAIN MAGIC.They don't CARE about tokens. If paired with someone like you a wall-hugger / hider it is frustarting. In your rant you fail to mention how often the people you are hunting just remain at the center of the game collecting charges.If I was paired up with someone like you I would simply exit. It's an unwritten rule that most players play by where they just go to the middle to speed things up. Try it sometime -.-You still get tokens. I guess it's just my personality but if I"m playing a game and I'm being insulted, then maybe the problem is not other's its you. Try reading a guide or two on how to play FOG and use your observations for how others play.If the person you are hunting directly goes to middle you should as well. Runescape people communicate by insulting you if what you are doing negatively impacts their gameplay.Stop being selfish. And FYI jagex creates mini-games and the way they are actually played by RS players are two different versions.Don't believe the Jagex version of how to play a mini-game.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0 I love you. 100% F2P85 Mining achieved on Dec 4, 200785 Smithing achieved on May 28, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trollface Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Many low levels play FOG for magic exp, and many high levels play FOG for battle robes. It takes ~250ish FOG games in f2p for the robes, and obviously they want to finish the games as fast as possible so they can collect their reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quelmotz Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Many low levels play FOG for magic exp, and many high levels play FOG for battle robes. It takes ~250ish FOG games in f2p for the robes, and obviously they want to finish the games as fast as possible so they can collect their reward. Oh, so we suddenly have a moral obligation to fulfill their purpose for playing FoG? Sorry if I misunderstood you. Try to make clear your stand instead of simply stating the obvious. Click here for an awesome suggestion to revive smithing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Well, personally I find it annoying when people much lower level than me run in FoG (especially on f2p), it's just a waste of my time. On the other hand; if we are about equal, I prefer it that we both play our roles properly.How does the hunted play their role properly without running. Seriously, it at least gives them a few extra charges before they die. And they lose.Haaaaaaaaaaaaaah your funny. I have better things to do then try to tank in the center vs claws. I also can't outtank a say, level 100 pure, because they're offense skills are typically higher then mine, whereas my higher defence doesn't do much. Especially in the center. Oh, and 10 levels come from summoning, which doesn't help me there; especially since sometimes the portals can really work for you. This also just counts towards people who have higher levels and equipment then me period...but, frankly, I don't fight them that often. (Although the level 125ish I saw with a gs, claws, wolpe, arcane stream really scared me...) While playing Fist of Guthix, I was constantly called a "nerd", "loser", and even some obscenities - all for merely running away. I don't understand why people can get so mad for me playing my role, the hunted. After all, I'd chase after my prey if I was a hunter. Not sure if the other people who even posted play FOG. The majority of people playing fog are there to TRAIN MAGIC.They don't CARE about tokens. If paired with someone like you a wall-hugger / hider it is frustarting. In your rant you fail to mention how often the people you are hunting just remain at the center of the game collecting charges.If I was paired up with someone like you I would simply exit. It's an unwritten rule that most players play by where they just go to the middle to speed things up. Try it sometime -.-You still get tokens. I guess it's just my personality but if I"m playing a game and I'm being insulted, then maybe the problem is not other's its you. Try reading a guide or two on how to play FOG and use your observations for how others play.If the person you are hunting directly goes to middle you should as well. Runescape people communicate by insulting you if what you are doing negatively impacts their gameplay.Stop being selfish. And FYI jagex creates mini-games and the way they are actually played by RS players are two different versions.Don't believe the Jagex version of how to play a mini-game. That was an incredibly arrogant post. As I just mentioned I can't beat higher levels or pures at FoG without hiding/running and occasional house/portal usage. I've tried tanking against pures, they will me WAY faster then I can kill them. You evidently do not play competitive FoG. If the person has higher stats and better weapons then you, you will fail tanking. I can amass quite a few tokens walking around about half-way between the edge and the house perimeter and usually get 200+ charges before I'm even found. I play the game fairly competitively, and as thus, I REFUSE TO BOW DOWN TO YOUR STUPID MORONIC STRATEGY WHICH WILL CAUSE ME TO LOSE HALF MY GAMES. Oh look, I'm not the only one who can use big font sizes? Frankly, I don't see why it's my fault when people insult me for trying to win the game, rather then using a strategy that's doomed to failure. I still remember my favorite argument with someone at FoG. He pointed out that I'm a running/hiding noob. My main argument was that, hey, I won. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0 I love you. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: As much as I dislike people who believe that tanking at the center should be the main strategy and get highly annoyed when you hide, run, and often times ultimately win because of it, they are also part of life that we must deal with. Methods of dealing with it include loving the person who put that youtube video here.... Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomrombom Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 All things considered, if a lowish level person politely asks you to tank the center so they can splash you, you really should do it as they're not going to hit you anyway. Other than that, it's everything goes. The only thing I really dislike is the hunter's run charge being the same as hunted's. Hunter should have more since hunted is hiding and moving in ziggety crossity weird patterns everywhere. PM me for fitocracy invite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quelmotz Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 All things considered, if a lowish level person politely asks you to tank the center so they can splash you, you really should do it as they're not going to hit you anyway. Other than that, it's everything goes. The only thing I really dislike is the hunter's run charge being the same as hunted's. Hunter should have more since hunted is hiding and moving in ziggety crossity weird patterns everywhere. Why should you oblige some low level player if you don't feel like it? It's not a law nor is it morally wrong to not do so. Does it really matter that much about the run energy? You can simply chase with just a rune scimitar/whatever when you need melee, and range/mage sets if you need ranged/magic. Melee armor doesn't really give significant attack bonuses, and range/mage armors are quite light anyway. How the hell is the hunted supposed to beat the hunter if he's running out of energy faster than the hunter? And he can't retaliate or anything. Click here for an awesome suggestion to revive smithing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomrombom Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 So you're basically saying that if a person IRL asks you to hold their pencil so they can tie their shoe, you should say no since holding the pencil inconveniences your mood? That is pretty much what you're saying. If someone wants you to let them SPLASH you - not even hit you, just SPLASH - you shouldn't do it? What's next? You won't give directions to someone who's lost? PM me for fitocracy invite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaJ Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Many low levels play FOG for magic exp, and many high levels play FOG for battle robes. It takes ~250ish FOG games in f2p for the robes, and obviously they want to finish the games as fast as possible so they can collect their reward. Oh, so we suddenly have a moral obligation to fulfill their purpose for playing FoG? Sorry if I misunderstood you. Try to make clear your stand instead of simply stating the obvious. So you are still here flaming others aren't you? Do yourself a favor and GTFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomrombom Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Many low levels play FOG for magic exp, and many high levels play FOG for battle robes. It takes ~250ish FOG games in f2p for the robes, and obviously they want to finish the games as fast as possible so they can collect their reward. Oh, so we suddenly have a moral obligation to fulfill their purpose for playing FoG? Sorry if I misunderstood you. Try to make clear your stand instead of simply stating the obvious. So you are still here flaming others aren't you? Do yourself a favor and GTFO. This is the RANT section, bud. We're here to argue, discuss, debate, and flame. It's part of the cycle of the forum. Do you expect randoms from the internet to use proper manners all the time? I sure hope not. If you can't take the flames, get out of the rants section. PM me for fitocracy invite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PereGrin Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Many low levels play FOG for magic exp, and many high levels play FOG for battle robes. It takes ~250ish FOG games in f2p for the robes, and obviously they want to finish the games as fast as possible so they can collect their reward. Oh, so we suddenly have a moral obligation to fulfill their purpose for playing FoG? Sorry if I misunderstood you. Try to make clear your stand instead of simply stating the obvious. So you are still here flaming others aren't you? Do yourself a favor and GTFO. This is the RANT section, bud. We're here to argue, discuss, debate, and flame. It's part of the cycle of the forum. Do you expect randoms from the internet to use proper manners all the time? I sure hope not. If you can't take the flames, get out of the rants section.^This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall337 Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 While playing Fist of Guthix, I was constantly called a "nerd", "loser", and even some obscenities - all for merely running away. I don't understand why people can get so mad for me playing my role, the hunted. After all, I'd chase after my prey if I was a hunter. Not sure if the other people who even posted play FOG. The majority of people playing fog are there to TRAIN MAGIC.They don't CARE about tokens. If paired with someone like you a wall-hugger / hider it is frustarting. In your rant you fail to mention how often the people you are hunting just remain at the center of the game collecting charges.If I was paired up with someone like you I would simply exit. It's an unwritten rule that most players play by where they just go to the middle to speed things up. Try it sometime -.-You still get tokens. I guess it's just my personality but if I"m playing a game and I'm being insulted, then maybe the problem is not other's its you. Try reading a guide or two on how to play FOG and use your observations for how others play.If the person you are hunting directly goes to middle you should as well. Runescape people communicate by insulting you if what you are doing negatively impacts their gameplay.Stop being selfish. And FYI jagex creates mini-games and the way they are actually played by RS players are two different versions.Don't believe the Jagex version of how to play a mini-game. This. When I got 300 MA rank, I'd always hate people who'd try to win. All I'm going for are the ranks, the game sucks. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quelmotz Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 So you're basically saying that if a person IRL asks you to hold their pencil so they can tie their shoe, you should say no since holding the pencil inconveniences your mood? That is pretty much what you're saying. If someone wants you to let them SPLASH you - not even hit you, just SPLASH - you shouldn't do it? What's next? You won't give directions to someone who's lost? So you're basically saying that it's wrong to not do something simply because it inconveniences your mood? So why don't you go and give very small change to every beggar you pass on the street? The money doesn't really matter (assuming you work and earn sufficient money), and it only "inconveniences your mood". Wait - I don't see that happening. The pencil analogy - I'm quite sure very few people where I live would help a random stranger if he asked. They would only help if he's a friend or something. But perhaps American culture or whatever is different. The lost person analogy - Ok, why don't you make a pledge to help any lost person you meet no matter how angry, how tired or how pressed for time you are? And why can't someone be playing FoG to relieve stress, to relax, to vent frustration, or is just some no-lifer rushing to get tokens to buy something? I'm not saying it's morally correct to not help when you have time, you're rich, you're in quite a good mood, etc. I'm just saying it isn't morally wrong if for some reason you don't feel like helping. So you are still here flaming others aren't you? Do yourself a favor and GTFO. I see you're still being a pathetic bastard trying to boost your ego and make yourself seem like some self-righteous saint or something. Why don't you do yourself a favor and actually make some proper contributions to the topic? This. When I got 300 MA rank, I'd always hate people who'd try to win. All I'm going for are the ranks, the game sucks. You hate the game, yet you go for the rankings. How is it an achievement to do something you think is crap? It's like you joining some [developmentally delayed]ed competition about who can eat the most (random disgusting thing). It's obviously [developmentally delayed]ed, but I'm going for the "ranks"!! And I'm going to hate you if you stop me from doing it/advise me against it!!! Click here for an awesome suggestion to revive smithing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadiansmurf Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 [Why don't you do yourself a favor and actually make some proper contributions to the topic? Hypocrite. This. When I got 300 MA rank, I'd always hate people who'd try to win. All I'm going for are the ranks, the game sucks. You hate the game, yet you go for the rankings. How is it an achievement to do something you think is crap? !!! We do that all the time on rs becasue we are going for the REWARD.Are u really that dense. The smart people on rs always play the most efficiently. It's much more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saunamajuri Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 [Why don't you do yourself a favor and actually make some proper contributions to the topic? Hypocrite. This. When I got 300 MA rank, I'd always hate people who'd try to win. All I'm going for are the ranks, the game sucks. You hate the game, yet you go for the rankings. How is it an achievement to do something you think is crap? !!! We do that all the time on rs becasue we are going for the REWARD.Are u really that dense. The smart people on rs always play the most efficiently. It's much more fun. Did you just include most efficient and fun in the same phrase? "An Amateur practices until he can get it right. A Professional practices until he can't get it wrong." Quests just keep bringing me back to this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomrombom Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 CanadianSmurf just made a big uh oh. PM me for fitocracy invite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadiansmurf Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Did you just include most efficient and fun in the same phrase? For some minigames yes. It is more fun versus if people played like jagex suggests. Mobilizing armies.FOGGOP It's not fun chasing after some player who runs and hides and hugs walls while you are FOGing.Mobilizing armies is a complete fail.GOP you can afk if you play 50-50. Clan wars and castle wars free for all are fine where people do whatever they like. Stealing creation I could go either way. The more challenging way is fun but if I just want tools the shorter peaceful games are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 This is runescape. Just as bad, if not worse than any competitive FPS community. (I'm guessing you played FPS games) Well, personally I find it annoying when people much lower level than me run in FoG (especially on f2p), it's just a waste of my time. On the other hand; if we are about equal, I prefer it that we both play our roles properly. Lolwut? A low level is FAR more likely to run from a higher level, because its his only chance of winning, its what i do in FOG and i win most of my games. Or do you want him to just kneel down and take it like a man? O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quelmotz Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 [Why don't you do yourself a favor and actually make some proper contributions to the topic? Hypocrite. This. When I got 300 MA rank, I'd always hate people who'd try to win. All I'm going for are the ranks, the game sucks. You hate the game, yet you go for the rankings. How is it an achievement to do something you think is crap? !!! We do that all the time on rs becasue we are going for the REWARD.Are u really that dense. The smart people on rs always play the most efficiently. It's much more fun. You just contradicted your whole argument. I don't think I need to explain - wait, I forgot who I was talking to. The "most efficient" way to play the game is also the "most fun"? Aside from that being a huge logical and factual fallacy, it just contradicts your first point and your defending of stonewall337. Stonewall337 admits he was going for the reward only, and he clearly stated that he hated the game. Wow - efficiency = fun. RIGHT... It is more fun versus if people played like jagex suggests. It's not fun chasing after some player who runs and hides and hugs walls while you are FOGing. "If you are the hunted, your task is to evade your opponent and gather as many charges from the Fist of Guthix as possible. " - Extract from the Manual regarding FoG from the RS page. Unless your logic fails so badly (wait, it does) that you think tanking is considered evasion of an opponent, I don't see how Jagex suggests that you tank in the center instead of running. Click here for an awesome suggestion to revive smithing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saunamajuri Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 [Why don't you do yourself a favor and actually make some proper contributions to the topic? Hypocrite. This. When I got 300 MA rank, I'd always hate people who'd try to win. All I'm going for are the ranks, the game sucks. You hate the game, yet you go for the rankings. How is it an achievement to do something you think is crap? !!! We do that all the time on rs becasue we are going for the REWARD.Are u really that dense. The smart people on rs always play the most efficiently. It's much more fun. You just contradicted your whole argument. I don't think I need to explain - wait, I forgot who I was talking to. The "most efficient" way to play the game is also the "most fun"? Aside from that being a huge logical and factual fallacy, it just contradicts your first point and your defending of stonewall337. Stonewall337 admits he was going for the reward only, and he clearly stated that he hated the game. Wow - efficiency = fun. RIGHT... It is more fun versus if people played like jagex suggests. It's not fun chasing after some player who runs and hides and hugs walls while you are FOGing. "If you are the hunted, your task is to evade your opponent and gather as many charges from the Fist of Guthix as possible. " - Extract from the Manual regarding FoG from the RS page. Unless your logic fails so badly (wait, it does) that you think tanking is considered evasion of an opponent, I don't see how Jagex suggests that you tank in the center instead of running.Well, take a look at his original post... And FYI jagex creates mini-games and the way they are actually played by RS players are two different versions.Don't believe the Jagex version of how to play a mini-game. Needless to say more. "An Amateur practices until he can get it right. A Professional practices until he can't get it wrong." Quests just keep bringing me back to this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quelmotz Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 [Why don't you do yourself a favor and actually make some proper contributions to the topic? Hypocrite. This. When I got 300 MA rank, I'd always hate people who'd try to win. All I'm going for are the ranks, the game sucks. You hate the game, yet you go for the rankings. How is it an achievement to do something you think is crap? !!! We do that all the time on rs becasue we are going for the REWARD.Are u really that dense. The smart people on rs always play the most efficiently. It's much more fun. You just contradicted your whole argument. I don't think I need to explain - wait, I forgot who I was talking to. The "most efficient" way to play the game is also the "most fun"? Aside from that being a huge logical and factual fallacy, it just contradicts your first point and your defending of stonewall337. Stonewall337 admits he was going for the reward only, and he clearly stated that he hated the game. Wow - efficiency = fun. RIGHT... It is more fun versus if people played like jagex suggests. It's not fun chasing after some player who runs and hides and hugs walls while you are FOGing. "If you are the hunted, your task is to evade your opponent and gather as many charges from the Fist of Guthix as possible. " - Extract from the Manual regarding FoG from the RS page. Unless your logic fails so badly (wait, it does) that you think tanking is considered evasion of an opponent, I don't see how Jagex suggests that you tank in the center instead of running.Well, take a look at his original post... And FYI jagex creates mini-games and the way they are actually played by RS players are two different versions.Don't believe the Jagex version of how to play a mini-game. Needless to say more. I think I roughly get his meaning, but his English is really [cabbage]. ------ Anyway, let's move on to the subjectiveness of "fun". Some people happen to enjoy seeing high level but skill-less players getting owned by low level players (themselves). I don't see how you have a right to impose your supposed idea of fun on others. It's an MMORPG - you choose your own roles, how you want to play the game. It doesn't matter what others think of you. The MMO part simply suggests the interaction between players, not that you're morally obliged to follow the "social norm". I can go on and on dissecting and ripping your post apart, but I'd rather not waste my time since you'd just bounce back with ridiculous posts again and again. Click here for an awesome suggestion to revive smithing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Ahh quelmotz, still the same poster as always :D O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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