urb Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 So I took the time to calculate it all out, it'll take me 11,000 crimson charms to get 88 summoning. Actually didn't sound that bad, since I'm only 69 atm. >.<Anyways, I got my Z Spear and Kairls and headed to the ancient cavern. Over the span of 3 days I've managed about 720 crims(Avg 60/hr). Now, at that rate, it would take me about 15 days of nothing but waterfiends, which doesn't sound that appealing.I've heard of chaos tunnel variants, rock lobs, and cannoning scarabs. What are the charm rates on these and the loss/hr? thanks-urbex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Were you using piety/turmoil? Super/extreme sets? 60/h at ancient cavern fiends is low for your stats. I can get around ~100/h at my stats (98 melees). You'd probably find barraging rock lobsters to be more appealing, as it's faster for you considering your summoning level. I don't any info on it, though. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted June 7, 2010 Author Share Posted June 7, 2010 Were you using piety/turmoil? Super/extreme sets? 60/h at ancient cavern fiends is low for your stats. I can get around ~100/h at my stats (98 melees). You'd probably find barraging rock lobsters to be more appealing, as it's faster for you considering your summoning level. I don't any info on it, though.Tried turmoil, but their cmb it so low it was only increasing by about 21% on offensive stats. Didn't think of super-sets since they weren't mentioned in any bunnyip guides I could find. Tomorrow I'll see how much it improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Were you using piety/turmoil? Super/extreme sets? 60/h at ancient cavern fiends is low for your stats. I can get around ~100/h at my stats (98 melees). You'd probably find barraging rock lobsters to be more appealing, as it's faster for you considering your summoning level. I don't any info on it, though.Tried turmoil, but their cmb it so low it was only increasing by about 21% on offensive stats. Didn't think of super-sets since they weren't mentioned in any bunnyip guides I could find. Tomorrow I'll see how much it improves. Yeah, for ancient cavern fiends, piety is probably better, as you don't need the healing of soul split. Once you can do CT fiends, though, you'll definitely want to switch over to curses. Always use combat boosting potions when doing any monster hunting. You'll see a huge increase in crims/h tomorrow. :wink: To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I find it funny how you say "only" 21%Yeah cause its not like 21% of 99 is like 18 - 21 depending on rounding. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0rdAki Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 21% attack is worse then piety, iirc it's 23% to attack. Drops: Black Mask.Clue rewards: Sara Plate, 2 Robins, Some other random stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmr185 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 This is going to sound dumb, but are you sure that you have your spear set to crush? If you use a Dramen staff to get into the caves, you have to set the attack style back to crush every time you switch back to the spear or you'll end up attacking with stab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashNburn Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 21% attack is worse then piety, iirc it's 23% to attack. Piety is +20% attack and has a bigger drain rate than turmoil. Interactive dungeoneering floor mapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I find it funny how you say "only" 21%Yeah cause its not like 21% of 99 is like 18 - 21 depending on rounding. Stop being so scathing all the time, especially when you have nothing to contribute to a thread. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MstrMonopoly Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I find it funny how you say "only" 21%Yeah cause its not like 21% of 99 is like 18 - 21 depending on rounding. I find it funny how you disregard how piety is actually better than that, lol. I piety the fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I never made any comment over if piety is better or worse.I was simply pointing out its a bit excessive to refer to 21% at lvl 99 as "only" when it clearly is a substantial booster giving u 18 - 21 extra levels Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0rdAki Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 *cough*[hide][/hide] Only is appropriate useage if the boost is less then the maximum. Drops: Black Mask.Clue rewards: Sara Plate, 2 Robins, Some other random stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd_Varrow Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I find it funny how you say "only" 21%Yeah cause its not like 21% of 99 is like 18 - 21 depending on rounding. I find it funny how you disregard how piety is actually better than that, lol. Judging from the OPer's statement, I have to assume that the 21% is an average, as turmoil increases strength by a minimum of 23%. So, the best we can say is that it was performing similar to how piety would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted June 7, 2010 Author Share Posted June 7, 2010 I find it funny how you say "only" 21%Yeah cause its not like 21% of 99 is like 18 - 21 depending on rounding. I find it funny how you disregard how piety is actually better than that, lol. Judging from the OPer's statement, I have to assume that the 21% is an average, as turmoil increases strength by a minimum of 23%. So, the best we can say is that it was performing similar to how piety would.Turmoil at waterfiends boosts Defence by 29%, Strength by 23%, and attack by 15%, after the initial boosting hit. I was off by 2%. Shoot me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0rdAki Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Turm is worse then Piety then. I feel warm and fuzzy inside, now that Piety > Turmoil for something. Drops: Black Mask.Clue rewards: Sara Plate, 2 Robins, Some other random stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_moocky Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Personally I prefer turmoil as I flash it with soul split on quickprayers and use no prayer pots or familiar scrolls ect. I just use torso and monk robe bottom with a magpie. Although this is with overloads and on task with full slayer helm. quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Turm is worse then Piety then. I feel warm and fuzzy inside, now that Piety > Turmoil for something. Only for ancient cavern fiends. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Jay99 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Hmm I would still keep using piety, soul split is so convenient it's worth a 2% xp loss or however small it is. But yeah, you seem to be doing something wrong. Crush, piety and super sets at least, and idk if you wait for the drop to appear after you kill a fiend, don't do that. Also, may I suggest getting 90 herb or something for extreme sets before you get more crims? Will help quite a lot and you'll probably eventually get it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svs Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 At 130 Cb, cockroach soldiers ~50 crimsons per hour.95 Atk96 Str95 Def Used super set, no cannon.Full bandos/dfs/whip/fure/zerker [~Visit my Slayer Blog~] Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect. It means that you've decided to look beyond the imperfections.~unknown~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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