Icuownage Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Okay should be a rule for this No using modern stuff that the peasents wouldn't ever understand and you shouldn't understand at the time. Examples Mather just inventing baths and soaps and such. Grim pulling an experiment and knowing that the plague is, so pulling out an experiment on two villages showing how it works is a bit strange, but I guess Retech enforced that pretty well. Remember, it's the medieval era, we don't know germs exist. It's similar to me telling my guys to just go and make guns cause I can just go and wiki how to. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 just like ross cant make nukes out of eggs. its jut not a possible weapon! totally OP, total BS. andreally, quite odd that he would spend SOOO much monetta on such a bad projecto. anyways:Research:15/30 Seige15/30 Steel15/20 Traps15/20 Mining1/20 Hygenics1/20 book writing. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 Mather, for some reason I get the impression you're making some sort of gas chamber. Anyways, I will sorta allow these post-medieval things to be created, but like most inventions before their time, the people using them will use it in the worst possible way. :thumbup: Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 The only post medieval thing I used were valves, which are part of my research on pneumatic and steam power. The Romans also had public showers.And the Egyptians had soap at 1550BC, and the Babylonians before them around 2500BC. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 then rosses country is screwed, retech. if you actually allow thoase nukes, its a death sentence for his country. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 then rosses country is screwed, retech. if you actually allow thoase nukes, its a death sentence for his country. Ross was being sarcastic. He was never building nukes. :thumbup: Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 aww the joke is over 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ah sorry mather... it looks like I should have added a light on fire clause to how I was getting rid of plague corpses (put em on rickety ships and leave them at sea). At any rate I will donate all of my (non infected) peasants to the cause of building a [cabbage] tonne of fortifications.What! You idiot. Damn Mongols. LISTEN PEOPLE - READ THIS POST We cannot let the Mongols reach Poland. If they reach Poland, they bring the plague with them, and once it's in an NPC country in the heart of Europe, it's out of our control. We need a plan, to stop the Mongols at the Kievan border. I read that as 'Listen you moops, if the plague reaches Poland then it'll get into the HRE, so stop it! Meanwhile, I'll be eating grapes.' -- Horse breeding; 1/20tempered steel; 1/20 Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?defid=293347&term=Moop There is this wonderful website I found that you can find links to information of pretty much anything you desire. In case you were wondering, that website is called google. Odd name, I know, but it works! You should try it. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Moop. I'm going to use that insult in real life now. Also, scorpio isn't reallu nukes. The fact that I have to clarify this makes me very sad indeed. But what scorpio really is, is still secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Is it, Ross? 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Well it will be up until the point he uses it... Can only play the surprise card once. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Nex, if you have spies in my country again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Not on this subforum. Things move so fast, and people are so oblivious, it's entirely possible that half the players might miss a post saying something like; MUAHAHA! I has superwepwn nao! I kill u wit my lazoor!!1 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 So, Retech, when are we getting an update on this? I wanna know what happens with the plague and Mongols. 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 really, ross. you should know by now that i dont take jokes well. the reason why i was so pissed was that if retech allowed nukes in the forms of eggs, it would be like alowing magic. which we emphatheticaly agreed not to have. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 One, that was completely and utterly ridiculous. I can't believe anyone would actually believe that, even you.Two, obviously you don't know what "empathetically" means. The word you were looking for is "emphatically." 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 im bad at spelling things. and yeah, im gullible. got a problem with that? i sure do... Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 kuwait -> berait --> broait 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 ... that makes no sense whatsoever/ Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 Mongolian Theater The powerful Kievan army bumbles along its newly constructed supply routes into Mongolia, claiming dozens of miles of pristine wilderness, without encountering any Mongolian forces whatsoever. Unfortunately, that didn't mean Europe was out of the woods. A surprise force of fifty thousand Mongolian horsemen rode south into Persia, before swinging back up behind the Kievan army and towards the European heartlands. The unprepared continental Europeans were saved by the forces of a small island nation clinging to an active fault line in the Atlantic. General Rakvel and his five thousand Hlaupari from Iceland rode out to meet them, knowing the consequences for a surprise Mongol attack could be dire. He knew that he could not meet the Mongols in open combat, for the Mongolian horse archers would easily slaughter his forces. His forces would have to attack the Mongols in unfamilliar terrain, away from the steppes where they lived and trained. The Mongolian host rode through the desert, south of modern-day Turkey. They encountered several Turkish tribes, whose horse archers gave the Mongols some trouble in the unfamilliar terrain. However, these were quickly crushed. Messengers from the tribes rode at once towards the Byzantine Empire and northwards to Kiev to inform them of the surprise attack. The messenger heading west to the Byzantine empire arrived before the Mongols could make it over the mountains in Turkey, but it was too late to warn the Europeans. The messenger heading to Kiev was intercepted by a unit of Hlaupari, who quickly passed the news to General Rakvel. He immediately saw the oppertunity, and set an ambush in the mountains. There was only time to bring five hundred Kievan knights and two thousand peasant archers, who were living as landowners in the area, to the battle. Five thousand Hlaupari,five hundred Kieven Knights, and two thousand peasant archers against fifty thousand Mongolians were not very good odds, but Rakvel knew he had to take the risk. The conditions were not ideal either. Rakvel's Hlaupari had to hold land, which constrained the advantages of Hlaupari mobility. The land was mountainous and arid, conditions that the Hlaupari were not as accustomed to. Finally, the Mongolians had to stopped or delayed at all costs, a constraint that Rakvel did not appreciate, as the Hlaupari often prefered gaining the advantage and damaging a force before retreating and attacking again in the future. Rakvel had chosen a set of mountainous crossings, the easiest way to pass through the terrain. There were three trading roads in number, roughly wide enough for a large wagon drawn with two horses to pass. The problem was that Rakvel had no knowledge of which mountain pass the Mongols were taking, if not all three. The mountain passes all crossed a single large chain of mountains, roughly five miles apart from each other. Rakvel drew his forces up to the mountain chain, and told four thousand of his Hlaupari to dismount. The remaining Hlaupari waited on horseback on the trade routes a mile past the mountain chain, allowing quick reinforcement if necessary. The knights were split evenly between the mountain passes, prepared to block passage when necessary. The Mongolians were in marching order. The flamboyantly dressed heavy lancers rode in front, five thousand in number. Ten thousand light lancers rode behind them, while thirty thousand Mongolian horse archers took up the rear with fourtyfive hundred heavy dismounted lancers and five hundred naffatun. As the heavy lancers rode within several dozen feet of the mountain pass, the battle began. Rakvel blew the first horn, and the Hlaupari stationed further up the mountain on the pass launched boiling oil from various improvised devices, scalding the first several rows of the heavy lancers. Then the peasant archers fired a volley of arrows, before a thousand Hlaupari leaped out of the shadows of the pass, and charged with their chain weapons, doing heavy damage against the disorganized lancers. Another thousand Hlaupari charged next down the pass in smaller groups, as the dismounted Hlaupari climbed to the side of the road and slashed the Mongols with their chains from the side. However, the Mongolian general was not fazed, and ordered his horse archers to fire. Despite hitting some of his own men in the back, the arrow barrage penetrated the light armor of the Hlaupari, causing Rakvel to send his soldiers back. The Mongolians moved their dismounted soldiers forward and began to advance again, but the Hlaupari were ready once again and slashed the soldiers that advanced, while taking moderate casualties from the spear armed soldiers. The Mongolians began overpowering the Hlaupari, forcing Ravkel to bring his remaining forces from the other passes to the fight, leaving only skeleton crews to guard against a Mongolian sneak attack. Meanwhile, most of the Mongolian army had already fled and taken the other pass through the mountains, leaving only a small force to fight the Hlaupari. Ravkel immediately saw this and ordered his battered forces to retreat down the pass and intercept the Mongolian force. The Hlaupari barely managed to reach the river crossing which all the passes led to before the Mongols, as the pass he was defending was shorter. The Mongolian general was incredibly irritated and ordered his forced over the river crossing, even when he could've set up his siege engines and taken them out slowly. Rakvel ordered all his soldiers into the river, sensing that defending on land would be futile, as the crossing opened wider as it came to shore. The Mongolian horse archers continued to rain arrows down on the fight, killing many of their own men. It looked like the fight was turning, but the Mongolian naffatun came into play, decimating the Hlaupari. Rakvel drowned as he was tossed by the Mongolian calvery, as did many of his men. Meanwhile, the Mongolian horse archers, which emerged unscathed from the ambush, rode ahead towards Europe in raiding parties, while the lancers regrouped and prepared to join them. However, Rakvel had asked the local people to begin damming the river days earlier, and the stunt proved worthy. As the wall of water from the broken dam slammed into the disorganized lancers, they were decimated and swept down the river. Casualties Iceland5000 HlaupariRakvel500 Kieven knights (from local area and not part of the army)2000 peasant archers Mongols10000 Light lancers2500 Heavy Lancers2500 Dismounted Lancers Result: Tactically a victory, though not as large as the Icelandic government wanted. Strategically, a major victory. Probaly saved Kiev, Poland, and Bulgaria from being steamrolled in a surprise attack. Plague has not managed to spread Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Holy [cabbage], that was effective. Well, guess my Hlaupari have proved their usefulness, and I still have a considerable reserve force. That wasn't even half of my Hlaupari. 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 kuwait -> berait --> broait->BORAT -- And v nice Nex. Swing that Grand Army around and smash them apart Dungeonal! Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 bambambambam 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 err... retech, why is it that youve never taken into account that ive had ambushes set up from the star of this entire mongolian scandal. ambush forces that would have assisted nex, consiting of SB's. is there a specific reason why you have not even factored in these numbers?... numbers being, 3500 split between the main routes the mongols would take. including the turkish area. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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