Ye Olde Hegemony

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Galleons = late 16th Century, huge transport ships. Closely assocciated with carrying vast sums of Gold.

Carracks = 15th Century, Portuguese ships which replaced the Caravel, were larger and mostly used to run spice.

Caravel = 15th Century, Portuguese ships, was made round bottomed and had 3 masts, compared with the usual 1 huge mast used until then in Europe.

 

Cog = 12th Century, widely used European ship.

[a_bert]

And v nice Nex. Swing that Grand Army around and smash them apart Dungeonal!

 

 

this

 

General Morosov Lackislav will lead the assault! his 3rd campaign!

 

we shall trap the Mongolian forces during the night, our tower shielded infantry (pikemen and swordsmen) will assault their camp in tight formation, and we shall wreak havoc upon their armies ! our knights will leave no survivors! death to the mongol!

 

yep, its very ambiguous what i was doing with my army

 

[bleep] the mongols, they shall burn

 

YO RETECH

[Retech]

That's wierd. This Wiki thing says this:

 

Carrack = 14th century

Caravel = 15th century

Galleon = 16th century

 

Hrrm.

 

 

 

Okay, I will start unlocking ships as the natural progression of trade moves on. For the moment, everyone has access to basic cogs, which can in extreme circumstances travel to China, but will probaly lose 90% of the crew, meaning they are probaly good only to establish initial contact. This is also the trade ship around Europe.

 

Sea-faring cogs will become available in roughly a decade. Basically sturdier and better supplied cogs designed for small trade missions to Asia. Then the others will come later as things ramp up.

 

Okay, now to work on pricing. :thumbup:

 

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Yep, could you please PM that to me?

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*Sustained Facepalm*

 

Better system:

Everyone has Cog/Cog like ships, which are crap at navigating beyond the coast, but if you follow the coast, you are mostly fine.

 

Round Bottom boats take 80 years to develop(Which make all your vessels ocean going)

2 Mast Boats take 30 years to develop(Which doubles the size of your ships)

3 Mast Boats take 50 years to develop(Which trebles the size of your ships(Doesn't stack))

4 Mast Boats take 100 years to develop(Which makes all your vessels ocean going AND trebles the size of your ships(Doesn't stack))

 

You can build massive ships before then but they cost a tonne extra(With the research the cost stays the same as whatever it is now), and trying to go into the ocean carries a 80% chance of losing the ship.

[Retech]

I'm not a big fan of using numbers but my problem is that when I start high school, with my intention of going to an Ivy league college, I will not have enough time to mod this game. That means that I have fifty or more days of modding this game, which is why I kept the research durations relatively short.

 

If I could find a replacement when I left, then this would be a great system, and that would be jolly good. :thumbup:

[a_bert]

Yep, could you please read your PM's?

 

Sent 05 July 2010 - 11:40 PM

 

you didnt even respond

 

A+ would use again

[Nero]

I'm not a big fan of using numbers but my problem is that when I start high school, with my intention of going to an Ivy league college, I will not have enough time to mod this game. That means that I have fifty or more days of modding this game, which is why I kept the research durations relatively short.

 

If I could find a replacement when I left, then this would be a great system, and that would be jolly good. :thumbup:

Lol high school is easy bones, you can just sleep your way through grade 9 and 10, and then 11 and 12 just require a hint of creative [cabbage] to get through with good marks. It's laughable.

[Retech]

Not when you're so determined to beat everyone else, especially you're greatest rivals who would laugh if you got an A on anything that isn't gym. :P

[jasignhagj]

I could mod, but im also going into High School so wont have a lot of time.

 

Wall project is canceled. All 10 million of my budget goes into training 12,500 archers and 20,000 foot soldiers, bringing my army totals to:

 

40,000 Foot Soldiers

32,500 Archers

1000 Cavalry

 

High School is going to be really easy for me , except English. Damn English, the most useless class ever.

[Icuownage]

I begin research on W/E is the latest ship we can do, because I am confused on the matter.

 

Also I forgot to mention this ages ago but

 

Siege technology

Naval technology

Hygiene

Farming technology

Mining technology

Armoured wagons

Bladed wagons

Horse breeding

Horse armor

 

I've been doing this since the start of the game, and a PM to Retech proves it.

 

So I think I should be getting atleast ships before everyone else, also my horses should either be the best OR as good as someone who has been researching as long as me. I had two other techs but I forgot what they are and I can't seem to find them so unless I can find the proof it looks like they're lost.

 

I definately know one was silver economy though.

[Nexaduro]

Siege will only benefit in smarter troop use of such weaponry,

Same with Naval,

Hygiene would probably reduce chances of an outbreak and economic loss from outbreaks,

I can't think of any significant bonus for Farming,

Same with Mining,

Armoured Wagons would probably increase profit from trade,

Same with Bladed Wagons (but what do the blades do?),

Horse Breeding probably wouldn't do much,

And Horse Armour would probably decrease the movement penalty for armoured cavalry.

 

Of course, I can't see this doing much unless you invested a considerable amount of money.

[The_Mather1]

Bladed wagons are weapons, they are wagons with blades protuding meant to be driven right through the enemy ranks.

[Icuownage]

Siege technology - Used to make my siege weapons just fire further/faster

Naval technology - Ships.

Hygiene - Quality of life for people, also they'll probably be less prone to disease and plague

Farming technology - Better diet, stronger, better soldiers.

Mining technology - Better metals, better armor, better soldiers.

Armoured wagons - Exactly what you said

Bladed wagons - Kinda like bladed chariots, so we could charge a road block or such

Horse breeding - Durrrr

Horse armor - Dur

[Retech]

Hooray, the maps are done. Okay, here's the explanation for the map. (Asian map)

 

Darkish grey areas are wilderness, already mapped in a more detailed map, or are not supposed to be shown (like the Americas)

Red lines indicate primary land routes, which will be less risky for your soldiers to walk on than other "uncharted" routes.

 

Maroon = Kiev

Yellow = Mongols

Lightest Peach = Persian Caliphate

Purple = Eastern parts of the Byzantine empire

Light Purple = Khmer Empire

Olive Green = Sultanate of something (momentarily forgot its name)

Dark Blue = Southern Song Dynasty

Orange = More Mongols

Darker Peach = More Mongols

Green = Japan

Light Blue = South Africa

 

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[hide=European map]

 

Could someone please fix up the titles for stuff? I have no clue how to do that. :P

 

 

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We are using Archi's system for ships, except all the times are cut in half.

 

 

Cogs cost 50,000 every five years to maintain, and 50,000 to purchase (so you can't simply buy an infinite amount and disband before the five years). This will be calculated at the five year mark, so if you purchase a cog one year before the next five year, you'll have to pay again really soon. Each can carry five hundred soldiers, or can be tasked to trade between certain countries.

 

This is to replace the old trading route system, so everyone who put money into trade routes, please PM me and I'll re-imburse you for the costs with other trading related stuff. This will be going onto the front page soon.

 

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Plague has somewhat died down, but will continue to have outbreaks every once in a while in some countries.

[a_bert]

are you gonna pay attention to what i pmed you 2 days ago (and so retrospectively factor it into their attack of poland) or

[Seraphi]

Okay, I'll build some cogs when the next budget update comes around.

[Retech]

are you gonna pay attention to what i pmed you 2 days ago (and so retrospectively factor it into their attack of poland) or

 

Okay, your army as a whole as too slow to reach the Mongols before they crushed Poland. Either the calvery fast enough to catch them would've attacked them before hand, or I can calculate an attack by your entire army on the Mongols in Poland, after the peace treaty has been signed and the Mongols are pretty comfortable in Poland.

 

Based on quick mental calculations, if your calvary had attacked by itself, it would've been defeated and the result would've been the same in Poland, even if the Mongolian general performed at its worse (good) and your general performed at its best (excellent). So, if you'd like I can factor those in either way.

[a_bert]

>Hlaupari keep me constantly informed of Mongolian armys whereabouts

>My army apparently marches away from them so they're too slow to catch up with them

 

????????????

 

My army attacks the Mongols now.

 

you can't just not read the PM then be a [bleep] about it later on

[Wisp]

So I control Turkey?

Boat research starts.

[Grim_]

Yes but you will probably have to deal with the ottomans sooner or later.

[Retech]

>Hlaupari keep me constantly informed of Mongolian armys whereabouts

>My army apparently marches away from them so they're too slow to catch up with them

 

????????????

 

My army attacks the Mongols now.

 

you can't just not read the PM then be a [bleep] about it later on

 

Hmm? I believe your orders were to keep marching east. Then after the battle where the Hlaupari killed lots of Mongols, your army marches west again in the next battle report, which is the last one that happened. The Mongolian army is basically all-calvery, so they manage to ride day and night, several times faster than your army combined (since the only way they'd march together would be if they rode at the speed of the slowest unit, which was a pikeman), thus getting to Poland and smashing that before you arrived.

[a_bert]

so the mongols rode 24/7 but weren't tired? nice

[Grim_]

I wonder... would it be worth it to switch some of my myrmidons weapons to flails so as to combat heavy cavalry more effectively?

[a_bert]

Yet my army would be rested..

 

np Rocco, lets hand Europe to Subutai

[Wisp]

Flails really aren't all that useful. So probably not.