Ye Olde Hegemony

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I take your Sith and raise your Napoleon on a Motorcycle

 

 

....and not just any Motorcycle, this a is a Harley Davidson Motorcycle, with 9,000 break horsepower, loving galvanized at 40,000 degrees centigrade...

[Icuownage]

Reminds me, me and Earth still need to attack England. I'll make an army with the 5 million and attack England.

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Reminds me, me and Earth still need to attack England. I'll make an army with the 5 million and attack England.

With no cogs to transport 'em with?

[Earth]

katamarans? elaborate. and nex, your being cruel, jsut because posideon is barely on and really slow to type stuff up, doent mean hes bad. (pm inbound, nex) ah yes. invasion of england... its been 4 budget resets? then my research nummbers are off. anwyas, ive barley used the amount of money i have these last three uodaates, and retech hasnt specified what gold is needed... so, i build a 20 mil gold army, best that amount could make.

[Grim_]

Earth look at past hegemonies for examples; he lost to a country 1/5 of his size and he seems to be on once every two weeks or so.

 

EDIT: It would be a good idea to actually do some calculations for different units.

 

600,000 gold will be put into military academies throughout bulgaria (this will be repeated next budget update) so as to improve officers.

[Nero]

katamarans? elaborate. and nex, your being cruel, jsut because posideon is barely on and really slow to type stuff up, doent mean hes bad. (pm inbound, nex) ah yes. invasion of england... its been 4 budget resets? then my research nummbers are off. anwyas, ive barley used the amount of money i have these last three uodaates, and retech hasnt specified what gold is needed... so, i build a 20 mil gold army, best that amount could make.

Money doesn't carry over between budgets.

[The_Mather1]

katamarans? elaborate.

Two-keeled ships experiece less drag due to the middle of the ship being above water. They can also carry more weight than normal ships at the same size.

[Icuownage]

Cogs aren't needed for attack, and even so I already have cogs, ask Retech...

 

I'll PM a plan of attack soon, and then after England falls I'll send some of my army off to explorreeeeeeeeee.

[Retech]

I've made it so that any generic attacks in the local European theater get generic boats for now for free, if needed for transport. Let's assume they're fishermen's boats. :thumbup:

[Nexaduro]

Not for me, my Hlaupari are riding first class! :thumbsup:

[Nexaduro]

Well, some of the boats are simply parts of the Hlaupari arsenal replacing horses. I suppose the others would probably require payment, and I still need to ask Tech some questions about them.

[Nero]

You replaced horses with boats?

 

 

ONWARDS NOBLE STALLION! TO GLORY!

 

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San Sebastián garrison increased to: 4,000 crossbowmen, 2,000 swordsmen

Toreló garrison increased to: 4,000 crossbowmen, 2,000 swordsmen

de Franco garrison increased to: 2,000 crossbowmen, 1,000 swordsmen

 

Treasury: 4.1m

[Seraphi]

Yeah, I'm slightly confused at that as well. Did you replace boats with horses? That wont get far, I'm afraid.

[Icuownage]

I think he means some are specced to go on horses and some are specced to go on boats.

 

So he has sailors and calvalry.

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Although...turn it up the otherway and you are immune to arrows...So swings and roundabouts.

 

Course a better plan would be to have 6 logs, two horizontal across the saddle and the other four extending skywards with spiked ends, providing 3 or 4 side protection from arrows when combined with some rugs and rope.

Then you can convert it to 4 lances/spears in the case of Hoplites or opposing horses.

Also you can make a raft that could(would need to run the figures) carry a horse over water...

 

Alternatively you could have the 2 non-sharpened, extra long, ones attached the saddle, with the other 4 set to a point fore and aft...then attach the rugs and ropes and you have a bumper/skirt, perfect for charging a bunch of soliders.

 

The possibites are endless.

[Retech]

Flintstones tank?

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Yes...

Me and my boat were out travelling, me hiding under the boat....at which point enemies snuck into my country and killed my horse.

However, this was fairly silly for 2 reasons:

1 ) I destroyed their house, chickens and family while they were shooting my horse

2 ) I didn't have a horse as I had a boat...having both would be silly.

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The second and third paragraphs do, but they never promised immunity from arrows.

 

1) I am alive, and as much as I value my horse, I value my life more

2) Hoplites don't have bows and are the natural enemy for horses, so any advantage would be good.

3) Horses suck at swimming, so hypothetical archers are better than certain drowning.

4) Swordsmen don't tend to have bows, and if they did they could shoot the horse anyway...But at least it benefits the horse against the other 99% of swordsmen.

[Seraphi]

Set fire to the upturned boat, or shoot at their legs so they fall over and are trapped by their boat. Plus, carrying a boat around would be cumbersome.

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"Set fire to the upturned boat"

Boat wood has a high water content, so would be more difficult to set fire too... Also, how are you gonna set fire to it? Fire flaming arrows at it, then it provides a decent protective shield so it does it's job...and bows have a range of less than a mile....assuming 2 miles an hour(with a boat on your back that is about right), that is 30 minutes(at most) to reach the lines...During which time they could have been killed many hundreds of times by arrows.

Also you could soak the boat in water before you left, or, if you were very far away you could remove the arrow, since accuracy drops off significantly with range.

So...

 

"or shoot at their legs so they fall over and are trapped by their boat."

Yes...

How exactly? Unless they were standing on top of a cliff and you were standing at the bottom of said cliff and you thought 'I know what I will do' and shot them in the leg....although at that point they were fall off the cliff and so wouldn't be trapped...though 99% sure they would be dead.

Otherwise you are saying walk up to them, lift the boat off of them and get out cross bow and shoot them in the leg, then lower the boat back onto them...hoping they don't stab you during the interrim.

 

Unless of course Scorpio was the invention of bouncing arrows or some other way off shooting an arrow upwards, having it decend to clear the boat and then ascend again into their legs.

 

"Plus, carrying a boat around would be cumbersome."

Or carrying a boat around would give them better strength, and thus making them better fighters.

Also, cumbersome/dead...cumbersome/dead....which to pick...

 

Alternatively to address both of your last two points, wheels....meaning it was not terribly cumbersome(although not majorly manoeverable) and the distance beween floor and boat(Which I envisaged at less than 20 centimeters) would be set at a small amount.

[Retech]

Throw naptha. :thumbup:

[The_Mather1]

Use arbalestiers to shoot through the hull of the boat. :thumbsup:

[The_Mather1]

There's no dubt, it would, those things are even more powerful than a modern P90.

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Again, how....if you were using a catapult then you are expending huge resources to deal with one or two soliders(at a time), or you are waiting for them to be within 5 meters, at which point the danger of arrows is largely gone, meaning you could remove the boat without significant worry.

Attaching it to the arrow is, obvouisly, possible...however you are surrounded by dirt, so shoving that is possible, though undesiriable.

 

 

Arbalest-

Nice, though expensive bow verse cheap defence....I mean if your entire army had to be upgraded to Arbalests then I might as well forget about the boats and run at you with a cheap sword while you struggle to kill one or two of us in a minute.

 

Alternatively, again, I deploy my long bows and fire arrows at a much faster rate....killing your highly trained people, and then advancing normally...

[Retech]

Naptha using foot soldiers which throw the naptha in jugs. :thumbup: