Ye Olde Hegemony

[Icuownage]

You wouldnt know though, also who says he has French roots? I would just make him be French friendly ;).

[Nero]

You wouldnt know though, also who says he has French roots? I would just make him be French friendly ;).

Then nobody who was Catholic would listen to him...

[Iconic]

People don't simply go "Oh my god, the government must be right" just imagine the American government saying "Mohammed was actually a false prophet" or "The pope is actually an evil guy in disguise". The absurdity of that is huge. I don't want to argue unless Retech's here.

 

Archimage, I've sent you a PM, you still haven't opened it from about half an hour ago.

[archimage_a]

Sufficing to say that only me and Dusty would have a shot at becoming the next Pope by killing the last one...Dusty because he is a good Catholic, and me because I am a good Castheon...

[Icuownage]

Let him start in Asia, it'll give him a good start.

[Retech]

Okay, this is obviously some sort of issue, so here's what I'm going to do about it.

 

Edel still gets his five thousand knights. These reset every five years, so it's like a limit. He also has some sort of small Swiss guard kinda deal which defends against direct attacks, but it's not that big. Also Ross, the math was a little off. Each knight would cost around two thousand, except in this case, he can't stack them.

 

Secondly, only carefully used Papal power would be effective in controlling the masses. For example, if the Pope excommunicated a ruler, the populace isn't immediately going to rise up against them. However, the nobles might feel that the ruler is in a weak position, and might seek to gain concessions.

 

Also, any Papal decrees made on the thread are basically posturing, when it comes to controlling a country's people. Like always, I will figure out the effects, if they are PMed to me. Obviously, it is still good to read what is written, because it'll give you an idea of what might be to come.

 

In the event of the Papal states being taken, the fleeing pope (or successor of pope) will have to try to regain their position as ruler of Christendom, while the victorious power can install an "Antipope" to replace the old pope. Naturally Papal influence as a whole will decrease, but the influence will then be split between two parties.

 

Questions and concerns are welcome. I will start the battle reports when this is all fine and dandy. If no one really wants it, I can give other options for him.

[archimage_a]

Steppe child, grows up to be head of the village of 5 people who live in the Steppe.

[Nero]

Sufficing to say that only me and Dusty would have a shot at becoming the next Pope by killing the last one...Dusty because he is a good Catholic, and me because I am a good Castheon...

Bah, more heretics for me to burn.

[Seraphi]

I still don't really like it. I think it's giving too much power to a single player.

 

Why can't Edel just start as a normal country?

[archimage_a]

Can we stop whining and just destroy him already?

[Nero]

Spain guarantees the independence of the Papal State...

[archimage_a]

....Commence whining.

 

 

Sigh....Castheo excommunicates the Pope, then bans excommunication.

[Grim_]

(right up until you annex him eh dusty?) Edel why don't you just start as a freaking Asiatic country or Ireland. They would give a better budget without having quite a few people on this thread wanting to destroy you (which unless you are powerful [you are a starter country so we will assume you are not] is a very bad thing).

[archimage_a]

Prophies that by the end of the year the Papacy will be a smoking crater....Clearly you have never heard of the Archi effect, Rocco.

[Icuownage]

Would be interesting to see the pope make Kiev a christian enemy... As Spain is such a heavy christian, the most heaviest, thus the most easiest to use the powers on, this would mean that his populace after a while will riot unless he actually crusaudes on Kiev XD.

 

So I say keep him :3

[Nero]

Would be interesting to see the pope make Kiev a christian enemy... As Spain is such a heavy christian, the most heaviest, thus the most easiest to use the powers on, this would mean that his populace after a while will riot unless he actually crusaudes on Kiev XD.

 

So I say keep him :3

'cept Kiev is Catholic, whereas you are not.

 

I like having the Pope in, gives more variety to the game so people can't just change their state religion every 10 years to randomness.

 

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Also Spain's the biggest supporter of the Pope, so them trying to turn one of Spain's allies into Christendom's enemies will get their support dropped pretty quickly.

[archimage_a]

Pick me, pick me, I'm not a Catholic either....come on, I dare you to declare war on me....Not that it matters, Crete declares war on the Papal States.

[Icuownage]

I think we can change the popes mind with a nice hefty bag of gold.

[archimage_a]

Anyone willing to join the crusade against the Papacy...or should I just smite it from the skies with thunder?

[Icuownage]

Just saying Dusty has proven himself to be the most pope serving country.

[archimage_a]

The Nation of Islam is probably more holy...It has their Religion in the title.

[Nero]

I'm pretty sure the Holy Roman Empire is actually the holiest country...

Actually, historically the Papal State and the Holy Roman Empire had huge conflicts over who should be the spiritual successor to the Roman Empire and various other crap. I'm sure it was also part of the reason the protestant reformation kicked off in the HRE rather than elsewhere.

[Retech]

Spanish-Kievan-Bulgarian Invasion of Yellow Mongol Land

 

The objective was clearer than the US premise for invading Iraq: move a huge combined taskforce into Mongolia and conquer the limitless steppes. The forces were eager to take the fight back to the Mongol homeland, and they began to march. After two years of steady movement towards Mongolia, the soldiers finally made it into the vast Mongolian empire, conquering numerous one-family settlements. The invading army made no attempt to be quiet as they marched, making the Mongols know of their presence. On nightfall of the fifth month in Mongolia, the soldiers had built a large camp. They had place night watchmen on the outskirts and hammered stakes into earthen ramps, designed to prevent a Mongolian charge.

 

In the middle of the night, the watchmen spotted fires in the distance. They suddenly grew much larger and spread in a circle around the camp, revealing the Mongolian forces which had surrounded the camp. The soldiers awoke to the sounds of hide drums, before the bombardment began. Rotten corpses and boulders rained from the sky, damaging several tents. Finally, the Mongolians opened a barrage with their gunpowder weapons from a great distance. The noise frightened the coalition's men, but the actual damage was confined to several burning tents.

 

The Shielded Pikemen and Men at Arms took their positions in the fortification, awaiting for the Mongolian onslaught. Suddenly, huge barrels of burning pitch flew into the camp and burst open. The tents aflame and the acrid smoke caused mass confusion. Despite their best efforts, the soldiers could not contain the blaze, forcing the army outside of their fortifications.

 

Ten thousand Mongolian Horse archers rode near the fray and began taking shots at the disoriented Europeans. The nine thousand Kievan mounted crossbowmen, the only unit capable of responding in timely order, quickly rode to engage the horse archers. At first, the Mongols held the upper hand, but as more crossbowmen joined the fray, the Mongolian raiding force was forced to withdraw. However, the European force had suffered more casualties, and had nothing to be proud of.

 

Casualties:

3000 Mongolian Horse Archers

4000 Kievan Horse Crossbows

2000 PAA

 

(Part two coming up)

[Icuownage]

That was kinda funny. I mean I totally didn't stay in a static position and got pwned, and you guys totaly didn't say I was stupid for doing so and you guys didn't get kinda owned just then.

[archimage_a]

Everyone has to sleep some time I guess.