Nero Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 Then should the emporer of the Holy Roman Empire push for action? After all they are the supposed leader of the states.He could, but its a flimsy case since, as you said..they're both within the HRE. If someone outside the HRE was attacking Mecklenburg though... Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Oh damn, and I guess they wont give up either. I guess I'll have the army of Canada defeat the rest, but I wont counter-attack, they know the land too well. I remove my armor research, giving me an extra million. When we get the land can we spend it's budget or do we have to wait? It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 ????.... Explain. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 What the [bleep] Rocco, attacking me!! [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Prussia is greatly saddended by an attempt on the life of its King...His policies of reform and change, a threat to the would be Oliver Cromwell character of Karl Schultz...Who would sooner see Drinking, Dancing and Joy abolished, replaced with nothing more than torture, tax and bloodshed. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 @Rocco, just cause that happened IRL, doesn't mean it'll happen now. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Its more probable through, and you should be weary. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I am, I'm not rushing into to kill them off, as they'll pwn me if I attack. I'm staying defending, and when they attack I try flank with another force. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Dusty, what's going on with the "Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen", do I have to say I publish it etc. or will it be a historical event. Pamphlets and newspapers continue being spread to neighboring provinces, Vive la révolution! Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 If it is a historic event it wouldn't be announced for another 12 years or so. 1793.So I would say it needs to be published =P http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 Dusty, what's going on with the "Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen", do I have to say I publish it etc. or will it be a historical event. Pamphlets and newspapers continue being spread to neighboring provinces, Vive la révolution!It'll be a historical event. Basically right now you're just trying to spread the revolutionary activity to different provinces (by doing whatever you think might be able to do that), and then once you get over 1/2 of continental France experiencing Rev activity, then you can declare the country Revolutionary France and challenge the royalists for control. Might be a good idea to wait a bit after that though so that you have enough troops. News from the USA:The Tea Brigade 1000 Imperial Guard - 22,000,0002000 Grenadiers - 19,000,0001000 Hussars - 17,000,0001000 Lancers - 15,000,0006400 Line Infantry - 10,000,0004 cannon - (moved from Revolutionary army) Total: 9400 infantry, 2000 cavalry, 4 cannon. The Coffee Brigade3,000 Line Infantry - 7,000,0002,000 Dragons - 4,000,0003 cannon - (moved from rev army) Total: 3000 infantry, 2000 cavalry, 3 cannon. Revolutionary Army 2,000 line infantry4,000 skirmishers2,000 dragoons3 cannon Total: 6000 (assuming) infantry, 2000 cavalry, 3 cannon. Grand total: 2 generals. 18,400 infantry, 600 cavalry, 10 cannon. Treasury - 4,000,000. Also, Karl Schultz army has been defeated by the Prussian National Army, but Schultz himself escaped and is hiding somewhere in Pomerania. The Prussian army was at first suffering from counter ideas from the two general's in command of the army, but General Clauswitz was given overall command (including the two bickering generals) and finally forced his plan. The Prussians were on even numbers with the Revolutionary army by a fair bit, and with the revolutionaries lacking any sort of cavalry or cannon, they were ripped apart fairly easily. It has created a slight bit of grumbling about what radicals have deemed to be 'wanton murder' by Prussia's leadership. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 In preperation of revolutionary activities spreading to Russia, a prison camp is being built in Siberia. It will be staffed by the most loyal peasant soldiers, who will have limited contact with the revolutionaries. Their cells will basically be a stone room with a lavatory hole (with spikes within it incase they try to escape) and a small window for placing food. They will also be stripped to their underwear, to make sure they can't make some sort of McGyver-style escape. Assuming they do escape, they'll just be in Siberia. :D Secondly, two thousand imperial guard and two cannon are purchased to take part in the new experimental force in the army. It will be entirely staffed by peasants, including the commanding positions. They will be selected through a talent search through the various villages of Russia, and taught to read, write, and follow orders. Unlike a real army, there will be three times as many officers who will rotate, in order to get a strong base of officers which we could use to raise a new force quickly. These will be stationed in St Petersburg, in a large imperial barracks near the palace. Finally, to improve the efficiency of government reach into the far flung regions of Russia, a large school is opened in the capital for talented peasants, who will receive food and housing, as well as intensive reading and writing education, to make skillful bueracrats to reach the regions that the nobles don't bother to keep track of. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Your plan is to become the revolutionary element? http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Certainly not. My plan is to be fair with the peasants and they will appreciate me for that. Also, improving the administrative capabilities of the government, for more efficient taxation and distribution. Nothing really revolutionary about that. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Your plan is to make people live in Siberia, in their underwear...and send all your most loyal soliders off to Siberia. Then create an army of highly trained peasents with no officers to give them any sort of direction, then station them outside your palace. Then create an army of peasent beaucrats to administer large parts of your empire. In Archi logic that means:Create Dissent and send away the army that would protect me.Create a highly dangerous army and station them outside my home.Create people to take over from the nobles. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 Their goal is to depose the Czaress and bring Russia back to a feudal monarchy. More news from the USA:Tea Brigade General Banks (Infantry commander) 1000 Imperial Guard2000 Grenadiers1000 Hussars1000 Lancers7100 Line Infantry4 cannon Revolutionary Army General Gudyer 2,000 line infantry4,000 skirmishers2,000 dragoons3 cannon Total: 6000 (assuming) infantry, 2000 cavalry, 3 cannon. The Coffee Brigade General Granger. (new one) 3,000 Line Infantry2,000 Dragons3 cannon - (moved from rev army) As requested by Arch: Prussian Declaration of Human RightsArticle I - Men are born free and equal in rights. Social distinctions can be founded only on the function and merit of the individual. Article II - The goal of any political association is the conservation of the rights hereforth laid out. These rights are survival, prosperity, security and freedom of belief. Article III - The principle of any sovereignty resides within the State. Only those who are elected and those of merit and training, may guide the nation, established within the Volkstag (People's Diet), the Edelstag (Noble's Diet), the King and the Vollstrecken (Police force). Article IV - The Volkstag is composed of those elected every four years, by everyone not eligible to serve in the Edelstag. Article V - The Volkstag may write laws, raise taxes and make ammendments to the consitution. If the Edelstag blocks a law three times then the Volkstag may invoke Volk Gebot(People's Bid) which is subject to the King's wishes. The Volkstag may also hire 1/3 of the vollstrecken Article VI - The Edelstag may block laws that are not related to taxes. It may propose new laws, but may not vote to pass them. The Edelstag may hire 1/3 of the vollstrecken. Article VII - The King may block any law, except ammendments to the constitution. Only the King may validate laws. The King may hire 1/3 of the vollstrecken. Article VIII - Survival consists of doing anything which does not harm others, unless they seek to harm you first. Article IX - The law is the expression of what is right. All the citizens have the right of contributing personally or through their representatives to its formation. It must be the same for all, either that it protects, or that it punishes. All the citizens, being equal in its eyes, are equally admissible to all public dignities, places and employments, according to their capacity and without distinction. Article X - No freeman may be taken, imprisoned, or in any other way destroyed, except by lawful judgement of his peers. Article XI - No man is presumed guility until judgement has been reached, lawfully. Article XII - No one may be forced to change his opinions, provided that their manifestation does not trouble the public order established by the law. Article XIII - All men have the right to hold congress, provided that their manifestation does not trouble the public order established by the law. Article XIV - The public order will only be enforced by the Vollstrecken. Should Vollstrecken ever be the source of the disorder then a Triumvirate, from the Volkstag, from the Edelstag and the King, will be chosen to discuss this matter and decide on a course. They are bound to accept the will of the majority, regardless of personal opinions.(This will undoubtedly have consequences) Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Thanks Dusty :thumbsup: http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 I would call Edel a genius if he rigged that with explosives. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 Not exactly that many places you can hide explosives in a cannon aside from inside of it...where explosives normally go anyways :P Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Well if you stuffed to much in there I'm sure the explosive force with destroy the cannon and send deadly shrapnel into the cannon guard. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Where is Moskva? Is it just an alternate spelling of Moscow? Organizers are sent to bring additional peasant troops to Moscow, where they will be organized under trained peasant leadership and used to support the Imperial Russian forces. Reinforcements are requested from Poland. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Oh wow. Is this the age of revolution or something? American revolution, Prussian revolution, French revolution, Russian revoultion. The world is on the brink of war, and all we can do is idley watch? Which country or man will finally say enough and bring peace to our Earth :'( It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Well if you consider it, Russia is in a better situation (revolution wise) than most. Now I have a chance to crush parts of the nobility and get my reforms through. :D Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 You're facing a rather strong army, so they might actually be able to secure some provinces for independence. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 You're facing a rather strong army, so they might actually be able to secure some provinces for independence. With a Polish army and/or any peasant reinforcements, my army is three times the size of theirs. :P That being said, I still don't want to fight. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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