Barrows advice

[Wilmot]

Question 1. I've been using SoL spec to tank dharok with no prayer. No one else seems to do this. Do they know something I don't?

 

Question 2. What's the fastest way to do barrows without high herblore?

 

EDIT:

 

Yes I get that void + turmoil + overloads + rapier is the fastest way. However, actually killing the brothers doesn't take that much time anyway assuming any good method. What I want to know is what supplies to use. Pray vs what? Food vs what? Take guthan's? Bones to peaches? Is KC worth getting? If so how many?

[jcrowley1985]

Question 1. I've been using SoL spec to tank dharok with no prayer. No one else seems to do this. Do they know something I don't?

 

Question 2. What's the fastest way to do barrows without high herblore?

 

 

1.) I too use the staff of light spec for my tunnel brother (either dharok or verek). Glad to see someone else who figured it out.

 

2.) You don't need herblore for barrows. Mage will always be the best way to do barrows quickly and potions are really not needed due to their low mage def. Perhaps bring a super defense potion but it's not required.

[Wilmot]

1.) I too use the staff of light spec for my tunnel brother (either dharok or verek). Glad to see someone else who figured it out.

 

2.) You don't need herblore for barrows. Mage will always be the best way to do barrows quickly and potions are really not needed due to their low mage def. Perhaps bring a super defense potion but it's not required.

 

1.) Cool, makes me feel better.

 

2.) When I say without high herblore, I mean I have pretty much every other stat / item I could need. Is it better to use guthan's and heal up in the tunnels or just use food and bank more often?

[jcrowley1985]

1.) I too use the staff of light spec for my tunnel brother (either dharok or verek). Glad to see someone else who figured it out.

 

2.) You don't need herblore for barrows. Mage will always be the best way to do barrows quickly and potions are really not needed due to their low mage def. Perhaps bring a super defense potion but it's not required.

 

1.) Cool, makes me feel better.

 

2.) When I say without high herblore, I mean I have pretty much every other stat / item I could need. Is it better to use guthan's and heal up in the tunnels or just use food and bank more often?

 

I almost never need to heal too much. I almost never use more than 3 pieces of food per run. I'm not sure of your defense but even at 80ish defense you should not need too much food. And if you have a karyll portal it is really quick to bank between chest loots so there is really no reason to try to do more than one run without banking.

[Aiel]

Question 1. I've been using SoL spec to tank dharok with no prayer. No one else seems to do this. Do they know something I don't?

 

Question 2. What's the fastest way to do barrows without high herblore?

 

 

1.) I too use the staff of light spec for my tunnel brother (either dharok or verek). Glad to see someone else who figured it out.

 

2.) You don't need herblore for barrows. Mage will always be the best way to do barrows quickly and potions are really not needed due to their low mage def. Perhaps bring a super defense potion but it's not required.

you don't use your SoL spec because speed>supplies used. Clawing karil and ah will save you more over time then SoL specing on dh

 

Also mage is NOT the most efficient method, turmoil+void+rapier+overloads is. The fastest way without high herblore is barrage with sol arcane stream ah etc etc

[Wilmot]

Well that's the crux of it isn't it? I guess I'll just have to try mixing it up a bit. I feel like the best method is not going to be banking after every chest though - it does take a while to run back.

 

Edit;

 

 

you don't use your SoL spec because speed>supplies used. Clawing karil and ah will save you more over time then SoL specing on dh

 

Also mage is NOT the most efficient method, turmoil+void+rapier+overloads is. The fastest way without high herblore is barrage with sol arcane stream ah etc etc

 

About dharok, I was kinda worried he was luring me into a trap and was going to destroy me when I wasn't paying attention.

 

As for the fastest way, my stats are pretty similar to yours. How would you do barrows fast? Is barrage that much quicker than fire surge?

[My_Eggs]

Question 1. I've been using SoL spec to tank dharok with no prayer. No one else seems to do this. Do they know something I don't?

 

Question 2. What's the fastest way to do barrows without high herblore?

 

 

1.) I too use the staff of light spec for my tunnel brother (either dharok or verek). Glad to see someone else who figured it out.

 

2.) You don't need herblore for barrows. Mage will always be the best way to do barrows quickly and potions are really not needed due to their low mage def. Perhaps bring a super defense potion but it's not required.

you don't use your SoL spec because speed>supplies used. Clawing karil and ah will save you more over time then SoL specing on dh

 

Also mage is NOT the most efficient method, turmoil+void+rapier+overloads is. The fastest way without high herblore is barrage with sol arcane stream ah etc etc

 

 

This man knows what he's talking about. Even with just piety (I don't have 95 prayer yet) void+rapier+overloads+piety dominates. Plus, it's just so sexy to see dharok get 3 hit. :shades:

[Wilmot]

Yes I get that void + turmoil + overloads + rapier is the fastest way. Who'd have guessed :-P However, actually killing the brothers doesn't take that much time anyway assuming any good method. What I want to know is what supplies to use. Pray vs what? Food vs what? Take guthan's? Bones to peaches? Is KC worth getting? If so how many?

[Hegelstad]

Well my mate downed dharok in 2 hits with ASN, SoL, Extreme magic, Wolpertinger and The new mage pray from dungeoneering. So why wouldn't that be faster?? Tell me...

[Ambler]

Well my mate downed dharok in 2 hits with ASN, SoL, Extreme magic, Wolpertinger and The new mage pray from dungeoneering. So why wouldn't that be faster?? Tell me...

 

cant use famils in barrows ;) ext mage pots give the same boost as wolper- they dont stack xD this friend of yours may be just showing off.....

[Quyneax]

Well my mate downed dharok in 2 hits with ASN, SoL, Extreme magic, Wolpertinger and The new mage pray from dungeoneering. So why wouldn't that be faster?? Tell me...

Rapier hits into the 600's (just about, according to the max hit calc, but it's slight off for higher hits), magic not quite into the 500's (300*1.15*1.15*1.21 = 480). Magic hits once per 5 ticks, rapier once per 4. Rapier is better on Karil and Ahrim, no runes = more space = more supplies = more chests = less banking overhead = faster chests. Barrows brothers have 1000 health each, so 2-hitting them is possible only with melee or a chaotic staff (unless the magic max hit is off, too, which could be true).

[bedman]

I've tried turmoil + rapier + void, and maging (fire surge, overloads, SOL), and both methods are pretty equal. Rapier is more straightforward, but more luck based, while magic is very consistent but a bit more complex cause you gotta switch outfits and attack styles.

[Wilmot]

I've tried turmoil + rapier + void, and maging (fire surge, overloads, SOL), and both methods are pretty equal. Rapier is more straightforward, but more luck based, while magic is very consistent but a bit more complex cause you gotta switch outfits and attack styles.

 

That's what I thought as well when I tried melee vs magic myself (minus overloads and turmoil). They're so close I don't think it matters so much as all the other junk you do at barrows, like do I get KC / if so how much / what food to use / which brothers to pray on / are claws that good? I'm looking for that really smooth fast setup #-o

[yuyu13]

Sorry to steal the thread, but could anyone provide a good inventory for the void+rapier+turm+olv method? I want to try it out after I get my rapier and turmoil (and I get my mems back >.>).