Space

[Seraphi]

Retech, it only harms you because you were the only one able to get such a massive advantage out of it. This system stops you from getting to level 200 whatever while the rest of us sit at level 10, and you become completely invincible due to having shields which could survive the big bang.

 

Take it as a compliment, and don't be so greedy with puzzles/tech. You were too good at the puzzles, so the system had to be restricted so that you didn't have complete control of the game.

 

Pretty much everyone else struggled with them, while you blasted them all out of the way and left none for anyone else.

[Nexaduro]

Archi, you just screwed me over. I can only do word morphs, and now Retech has an even more significant monopoly.

 

Nero, THAT WASN'T FOR THE MISSION. That was a payment to all TFed officers. I would like 15,000 if you please.

 

This game has all the disorder of D'neering combined with the bastardish spite of Hegemony (not significantly directed at you, Dusty).

[Icuownage]

Nex, puzzles are meant to take a while. I pretty much do puzzles while I train, or build things, or when AI is sorting someone else out while doing an action, though then I only get like a minute if I'm lucky.

 

Admitedly, looking at my card, I'd only be able to do 3 without intensively looking for what I needed.

[Jehosaphat]

Archi, you just screwed me over. I can only do word morphs, and now Retech has an even more significant monopoly.

Change "word morphs" to "cryptos, physics puzzles, and the occasional miscellaneous random puzzle" and you've got my situation.

 

Hell, I've got a chem puzzle right now that has stuff I've never even heard of in it. And the stuff I've heard of gave me a headache back when I dealt with it in Chem class. I never much liked that stuff, and I don't like it now.

[archimage_a]

Nex, as I said before, this isn't to screw Retech over or to screw anyone over, this is to place a limit on how fast technology can advance.

If people want to band together to increase shields to level 50 in the next session...Ok, the point is that people have a choice in banding together to increase shields to level 50 in the next session.

Because people disagree about things, which means that rather than level 50 shields and level 2 weapons there is some vague level of equilibrium.

 

And Nex, I am working on the word morphing idea. But I don't want to just pluck two 8 letter words out of the air and go 'Hey, not sure if there actually is an answer to this, just try'

[Nexaduro]

I say research takes a certain amount of time, and every time someone solves a puzzle they and every other crewmember get a portion of time to spend on speeding up the research.

 

Research shouldn't have to be an active thing, preventing involvement in missions and such.

 

And Archi, you strongly need MUCH better challenges or complete alternatives that you can still do anywhere.

[Retech]

It doesn't limit technological advancement. It limits MY technological advancement. Everyone disagreed on what we should research, but since I did most of the puzzles, then I should be able to choose where those puzzles take us.

[Seraphi]

Having all puzzles boost everyones research is a bad idea, it lowers the value of research and puts stress on individuals.

 

Leaving puzzles unrestricted is also a bad idea, it allows certain individuals to take their technology to the moon and back while we're piddling around in a field. Just because you're good at puzzles doesn't mean you should be able to control the game by having technology more advanced than everyone else put together.

[Nexaduro]

I reiterate, we wouldn't be having this argument and teamwork as a whole would be better if we maintained the old system but everyone benefited from solved puzzles.

 

Also, Archi, what would higher levels of Crystalline or Sprayer give me?

[archimage_a]

It doesn't limit technological advancement. It limits MY technological advancement. Everyone disagreed on what we should research, but since I did most of the puzzles, then I should be able to choose where those puzzles take us.

 

Retech, if my sole aim was to stop or limit your advancement I would give you 3 puzzles which were extremely difficult and say you have to solve one of those three...Off the top of my head I can think of three...

 

Alternatively, stop people switching between puzzles, since you are better than some people, which means the puzzles you find hard, they find impossible...so you doing all the ones they find hard(Which you find mild), means they have no chance...

 

 

But, like I said, I am trying to stop the rapid advancement of tech in a singular direction...not to stop people from advancing FULL STOP.

 

Also, Archi, what would higher levels of Crystalline or Sprayer give me?

Crystalline would improve crystal stuff and the sprayer would improve the sprayer.

 

The increases are minute, but they add up.

[Jehosaphat]

I reiterate, we wouldn't be having this argument and teamwork as a whole would be better if we maintained the old system but everyone benefited from solved puzzles.

 

Also, Archi, what would higher levels of Crystalline or Sprayer give me?

Well, yeah, but then research would have to be worth less or we'd be nuking planets 3 sessions from now.

 

I say that everyone has a fixed number of puzzles that they can actually do (i.e. cryptos for me, word morphs for Nex, just-about-anything for Jen) per session. Any research attempted after that gets put "on hold" until the next session.

[archimage_a]

Theros....Ok. We will try a session like this and then if people want specific types of puzzles, PM me and I will make them for Monday.

[Retech]

I would like all word morphs if Nex gets all word morphs.

 

 

 

Just because I can do more stuff doesn't mean I should get harder stuff. That's like socialism. (Well not really, but I like comparing things to socialism)

[The_Mather1]

Pieis how 'bout we trade? I've got three of mine bagged and noted down allready but I still have the cryptogram the anagram and the what comes next left.

 

Lol, minor typo gave me an idea for new religion; Pieism.

[Jehosaphat]

I would like all word morphs if Nex gets all word morphs.

 

 

 

Just because I can do more stuff doesn't mean I should get harder stuff. That's like socialism. (Well not really, but I like comparing things to socialism)

No, Nex's idea would be like socialism. EVERYONE GETS EQUAL ST00F

[Retech]

Actually, I like Archi's idea of no switching puzzles (except maybe at the end of a session)?

[Nexaduro]

Hrm, Archi, I think I'd like to spend that last word-morph I did yesterday on a Crystalline suit with a built-in Sprayer.

[Earth]

.. leav it as is. And, Arch, can i have my card? Retech, your a douche with the puzzles, which causes me to make you a new title. Puzzle-[bleep].

[The_Mather1]

But if we trade equal amounts of puzzles with eachothers there's not really any problem, it'd basically be the same as helping eachother.

[Earth]

Dear jeesus, is everyone so hell bent on making themselves so powerfull your [bleep]ing THIS. MUCH. about only being able to do 6 puzzles a session? I like it like this.

[archimage_a]

Retech, ok...So basically the card idea....Since you have 6 puzzles to choose from and can't change, except at the end of the session. The only problem we seem to be having is the number of puzzles you have access to.

 

Nex, ok

 

Earth, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12603519/Space/Puzzles/Earth.png

 

Theros, Nex, Word-Morph/Cryptograms only. Ok, that seems fine to me, as long as it isn't abused too much. (Ie, I have a program that cracks cryptograms so am guarenteeed done in the first 5 minutes, Har-har)

 

Word Morphs will be getting more difficult.

[Jehosaphat]

I crack cryptos by hand. I might find a program to help, but I'm way too much of a purist to use a cracking program.

[archimage_a]

Indeed.

 

On the subject of finding programs and such:

Obviously I can't stop you and if you spend 15 minutes between puzzles I probably wouldn't know....But, end of the day, it is a game...if you are gonna cheat through it then that is your perogative.

[Retech]

I would like cryptos only please. They're all solvable, unlike math where either you can do it or you can't. Since there's a limited number per session, then I'd rather have cryptos, which take longer and basically 100% success rate, instead of math.

[Icuownage]

Trust me, a crypto can be made so hard it will take you the session to sovle, and I think Archi would start doing that.

 

Urm, can I request no anagrams please, I'm fine with anything other than anagrams :P.