That's why you take small steps.

 

But truthfully the worst what could happen is blunt discrimination against little-speaking people in the US. We'll create laws where they cannot go to school, cannot run businesses, and segergated into poor neighborhoods.

 

A couple steps before killing them all, but still possibily leading forward.

What the US needs to do is prevent future illegal immigration. But instead of simply trying to deport every single illegal immigrant who is already here now, the US should find a way that Illegal immigrants who have already established lives here would be able to apply for citizenship and possibly pay a fine for it. There are so many illegals here who would actually like to be part of the US, who wouldn't mind paying taxes if it meant they had more freedoms in the society. Its just that a lot of Americans underestimate how hard and long it can take to actually immigrate here legally. The US should crackdown on illegal immigration, but I just don't think it is a good move to deport illegals who may have been here for 10 years already, have worked hard, and have well established lives and families to take care of.

And that is the reason that the American Dream is dead:

 

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.... for me and my own.

 

I'm not sure that they factored in immigration that causes way too many problems. Or a huge populace.

 

Except statistics don't support those "problems", and I don't think that the American population has reached critical levels yet.

 

But that's alright, we'll just alter the fundamental rights and values of what used to be the most free society in the world because a few Republicans are afraid of brown people.

Right. The idea that economic troubles are caused by immigrants and minorities is a myth, and a dangerous one at that. See also: Holocaust.

 

Did you just compare illegal immigration to the codifier of mass genocide, of all things? I can see the comparison, but that's a bit of a jump.

I'm not sure you did understand. The logical reasoning behind the extremism of the Holocaust was that the Jews, along with other minorities, were the cause of Germany's economic problems. The similarity I'm pointing out is that in a time of economic turbulence, people turn to a scapegoat. Minorities are easy to target. This sort of thought process needs to be exposed and diverted before we end up doing something ridiculously immoral. Not that it would matter, anyways - the victors write the history books, right?

 

I'm certain I did understand. You didn't need to explain it. I'm not sure that YOU understood the jump you made. I understood the logic, but still, illegal immigration to the systematic murdering of six million Jews or more certainly is a bit of a jump

I appreciate the link - now I know what an understatement is. I am comparing the causes and exposing the fallacies, not accusing pro-immigration law people of being Nazis or murderers.

This is dumb. People here illegally should be deported, as we can't make any money off them and they'll just tax all our systems more.

This is dumb. People here illegally should be deported, as we can't make any money off them and they'll just tax all our systems more.

*lower shades*

 

Really now.

 

Plus if they're legal, they're forced to pay taxes. Actually, some already do, disregarding their legal status. I think that should be a clear indication of loyalty and respect for the country.

 

Those who don't pay taxes, make them pay taxes via legality. Then we'll see where our welfare is going.

This is dumb. People here illegally should be deported, as we can't make any money off them and they'll just tax all our systems more.

*lower shades*

 

Really now.

 

Plus if they're legal, they're forced to pay taxes. Actually, some already do, disregarding their legal status. I think that should be a clear indication of loyalty and respect for the country.

 

Those who don't pay taxes, make them pay taxes via legality. Then we'll see where our welfare is going.

 

Was referring to illegals and the idea of putting them in jail for being here illegally. I have nothing against people here legally; I just think everyone should have to go through the same thing my ancestors did to get here.

This is dumb. People here illegally should be deported, as we can't make any money off them and they'll just tax all our systems more.

*lower shades*

 

Really now.

 

Plus if they're legal, they're forced to pay taxes. Actually, some already do, disregarding their legal status. I think that should be a clear indication of loyalty and respect for the country.

 

Those who don't pay taxes, make them pay taxes via legality. Then we'll see where our welfare is going.

 

Was referring to illegals and the idea of putting them in jail for being here illegally. I have nothing against people here legally; I just think everyone should have to go through the same thing my ancestors did to get here.

Hey me too, but they can't do that right now. It took a boat ticket and hours of wait time on Ellis Island, now it takes years of paperwork and several plane tickets.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/high-tech-border-tunnel-bust-yields-over-20-tons-of-pot/

 

 

Don't tell me that tunnel was cheap to construct.

I have nothing against people here legally; I just think everyone should have to go through the same thing my ancestors did to get here.

 

Colonialism & genocide? :unsure: [assuming you were descended from the original European settlers]

 

Also, I don't think Americans appreciate just how hard it is to get US Citizenship post 9/11. It's a bureaucratic nightmare.

This should be passed, but knowing how long it takes for anything to get done in our government I don't think it will anytime soon.

 

 

http://dreamact.info/