123fork Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 um no becasuse it might be unfair to those who are being pked and also hotkeys might be confusing to some people so srry lol but i discourage this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted December 23, 2005 Author Share Posted December 23, 2005 Hotkeys won't be confusing unless you don't have much intelligence. Besides, no one forced you to do it. Why is it unfair to people being PKed? You can eat faster, and teleport faster and everything. I think it is more unfair towards PKers... Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123fork Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Hotkeys won't be confusing unless you don't have much intelligence. Besides, no one forced you to do it. Why is it unfair to people being PKed? You can eat faster, and teleport faster and everything. I think it is more unfair towards PKers... ok then where would the hotkeys go then hm i mean for evey movement u do u would have to press every button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantam222 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 good idea, i support RSN: Bantam222 [105 combat] [1578 total level]Support my quest for 1600 Skill Total! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlutoniumCross Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 *assign a to hi alch* *assign b to stack of bows* abababababaabababababababaab yeah sounds like a cool idea :lol: http://www.soundclick.com/rztheheretic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msk100 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 yeh this would make things alot easier to pk, i don't pk myself but if they put this in i might start :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted December 24, 2005 Author Share Posted December 24, 2005 Hotkeys won't be confusing unless you don't have much intelligence. Besides, no one forced you to do it. Why is it unfair to people being PKed? You can eat faster, and teleport faster and everything. I think it is more unfair towards PKers... ok then where would the hotkeys go then hm i mean for evey movement u do u would have to press every button I don't think you actually understand how hotkeys work. Hotkeys goes of course, to your keyboard. The point of hotkeys is that you won't have to move your mouse around, opening windows and clicking on icons: all you have to do is press a key on your keyboard and the action is executed. For example: Let us say you assigned "Varrock Teleport" to "A" on your keyboard. You can use the conventional way: open spellbook, click on Varrock Teleport and waste about 2 seconds (which can be the difference between life and death in the Wilderness); or you can just press "A" and you're off. Personally, I think you are only against me because I pointed out holes in your suggestion, but if that is not so please forgive my narrow-mindedness. Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123fork Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 Hotkeys won't be confusing unless you don't have much intelligence. Besides, no one forced you to do it. Why is it unfair to people being PKed? You can eat faster, and teleport faster and everything. I think it is more unfair towards PKers... ok then where would the hotkeys go then hm i mean for evey movement u do u would have to press every button I don't think you actually understand how hotkeys work. Hotkeys goes of course, to your keyboard. The point of hotkeys is that you won't have to move your mouse around, opening windows and clicking on icons: all you have to do is press a key on your keyboard and the action is executed. For example: Let us say you assigned "Varrock Teleport" to "A" on your keyboard. You can use the conventional way: open spellbook, click on Varrock Teleport and waste about 2 seconds (which can be the difference between life and death in the Wilderness); or you can just press "A" and you're off. Personally, I think you are only against me because I pointed out holes in your suggestion, but if that is not so please forgive my narrow-mindedness. im not against you im telling you some of your stuff kinda is wrong and third there you said EVERY key on the key board and techinically there could be diffrent moves that have the same word in the first part for example d is the button to run but r attack and g is the button to pick something up and ur talking about the entire keyboard not just some buttons so it would be confusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted December 24, 2005 Author Share Posted December 24, 2005 What are you talking about? The hotkeys are self-assigned, and since you assigned them you should know which keys you like to use best for what action. Have you played any other MMORPGs? Because I can tell you that a lot of them have hotkeys, most of them non-assignable. Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123fork Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 What are you talking about? The hotkeys are self-assigned, and since you assigned them you should know which keys you like to use best for what action. Have you played any other MMORPGs? Because I can tell you that a lot of them have hotkeys, most of them non-assignable. again i have to prove wat u said you said hotkeys are on the entire keyboard and let me tell you the entire keyboard has lots of buttons let me count them 34 keys and there is probably 15 actions how in the heck can u remeber wat key to press when there are 34 keys and hardly any action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaibani Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 What are you talking about? The hotkeys are self-assigned, and since you assigned them you should know which keys you like to use best for what action. Have you played any other MMORPGs? Because I can tell you that a lot of them have hotkeys, most of them non-assignable. again i have to prove wat u said you said hotkeys are on the entire keyboard and let me tell you the entire keyboard has lots of buttons let me count them 34 keys and there is probably 15 actions how in the heck can u remeber wat key to press when there are 34 keys and hardly any action because most hotkeys are f1-f12...1-0....blah blah blah. if you can't even remember the entire placement of ALL the keys on the keyboard, meaning that you can't type without looking at the keyboard, which means that nooby little noobs who can't type right is you, then get lost. nobody wants to see your face. it's pathetic that at your age you can't type wihtout looking at the keyboard. it's just sickening, it bothers me like george bush does when he comes up with another excuse to attack iraq, but heck, it's christmas, so i'll forgive ya. :D Sup noobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123fork Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 What are you talking about? The hotkeys are self-assigned, and since you assigned them you should know which keys you like to use best for what action. Have you played any other MMORPGs? Because I can tell you that a lot of them have hotkeys, most of them non-assignable. again i have to prove wat u said you said hotkeys are on the entire keyboard and let me tell you the entire keyboard has lots of buttons let me count them 34 keys and there is probably 15 actions how in the heck can u remeber wat key to press when there are 34 keys and hardly any action because most hotkeys are f1-f12...1-0....blah blah blah. if you can't even remember the entire placement of ALL the keys on the keyboard, meaning that you can't type without looking at the keyboard, which means that nooby little noobs who can't type right is you, then get lost. nobody wants to see your face. it's pathetic that at your age you can't type wihtout looking at the keyboard. it's just sickening, it bothers me like george bush does when he comes up with another excuse to attack iraq, but heck, it's christmas, so i'll forgive ya. :D first of the nooby person is you kaibani because you cant be kind or nice to anyone second you are a imature son of a B@@@@ and 4th how dare you say those things i wasnt even talking to u :evil: :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaibani Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 What are you talking about? The hotkeys are self-assigned, and since you assigned them you should know which keys you like to use best for what action. Have you played any other MMORPGs? Because I can tell you that a lot of them have hotkeys, most of them non-assignable. again i have to prove wat u said you said hotkeys are on the entire keyboard and let me tell you the entire keyboard has lots of buttons let me count them 34 keys and there is probably 15 actions how in the heck can u remeber wat key to press when there are 34 keys and hardly any action because most hotkeys are f1-f12...1-0....blah blah blah. if you can't even remember the entire placement of ALL the keys on the keyboard, meaning that you can't type without looking at the keyboard, which means that nooby little noobs who can't type right is you, then get lost. nobody wants to see your face. it's pathetic that at your age you can't type wihtout looking at the keyboard. it's just sickening, it bothers me like george bush does when he comes up with another excuse to attack iraq, but heck, it's christmas, so i'll forgive ya. :D first of the nooby person is you kaibani because you cant be kind or nice to anyone second you are a imature son of a B@@@@ and 4th how dare you say those things i wasnt even talking to u :evil: :evil: omg i was jk lol don't you know when someone is joking? Now chill out before I really mean what I said. :evil: :twisted: Sup noobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicrune007 Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 I can see how hot keys will dramatically affect Runescape, in a good way. I always wandered about it myself... but never thought to much of it, great idea. Put me on a supporters list for this :D yeah,same here same here Hey Nicrune007 , Whats Your Username? 99 Ranged on 2/6/07 99 Hit Points on 9/5/08 99 Defense on 26/4/08 99 Attack on 14/2/09 99 Strength on 25/2/09 99 Slayer on 13/9/09\:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 Supporters and critics lists added... and 123fork, if you can't remember the kets you assigned yourself you either have amnesia or a very poor memory, which if that's the case is sad. Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambaldi Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 if its completely user assigned then its way to easy to auto and there would be no point in the auto cast on staffs so you would have to redo a lot of the exp for spells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 if its completely user assigned then its way to easy to auto and there would be no point in the auto cast on staffs so you would have to redo a lot of the exp for spells Why would there be no point in autocasting with staves? With stave autocast, you can just click a victim once and you will keep attacking it. With hotkey autocast however, you would still have to press the hotkey and click on your target continuously. And what do you mean, "too easy to auto"? It isn't like you could assign a rock to a key and just keep mining the rock... you can only assign your things to hotkeys, not things around you (eg. you can't assign a goblin to a hotkey and just keep attacking it...)... Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123fork Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 if its completely user assigned then its way to easy to auto and there would be no point in the auto cast on staffs so you would have to redo a lot of the exp for spells Why would there be no point in autocasting with staves? With stave autocast, you can just click a victim once and you will keep attacking it. With hotkey autocast however, you would still have to press the hotkey and click on your target continuously. And what do you mean, "too easy to auto"? It isn't like you could assign a rock to a key and just keep mining the rock... you can only assign your things to hotkeys, not things around you (eg. you can't assign a goblin to a hotkey and just keep attacking it...)... ok wat i said earlier was do u mean all the number keys or all the abc keys or the f1 keys sorry i thought u mean the abc keys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambaldi Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 if its completely user assigned then its way to easy to auto and there would be no point in the auto cast on staffs so you would have to redo a lot of the exp for spells Why would there be no point in autocasting with staves? With stave autocast, you can just click a victim once and you will keep attacking it. With hotkey autocast however, you would still have to press the hotkey and click on your target continuously. And what do you mean, "too easy to auto"? It isn't like you could assign a rock to a key and just keep mining the rock... you can only assign your things to hotkeys, not things around you (eg. you can't assign a goblin to a hotkey and just keep attacking it...)... all the skills that involve doing things in your inventory could be autoed (alching, fletching to an extent etc). i am sorry i didnt make the autocast thing clear, what i had in mind is certain staffs can only autocast certain spells (eg u dont get free runes while autocasting ancient magics) but if u set a spell to a key you could get the free runes with out having to move your mouse backwards and forwards between the monster and the magic panel, it would just be (as an example) R click R click R click rather than click drag click drag click drag click Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted December 28, 2005 Author Share Posted December 28, 2005 For one thing, what is wrong with autoing? It makes the game less tedious doesn't it? And besides, it doesn't really save much time; just makes it less tedious. I hope this isn't getting into a "RS2 Product" discussion... As for autocast, I have explained that before. With hotkey auto it happens like this: R Click R Click R Click R Click... like you said. With staff auto it is this: Click. End of story. There is still a great difference. And considering mages are the only class that can't autocast some of their attacks properly, I think it wouldn't make much difference. Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambaldi Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 For one thing, what is wrong with autoing? It makes the game less tedious doesn't it? And besides, it doesn't really save much time; just makes it less tedious. I hope this isn't getting into a "RS2 Product" discussion... As for autocast, I have explained that before. With hotkey auto it happens like this: R Click R Click R Click R Click... like you said. With staff auto it is this: Click. End of story. There is still a great difference. And considering mages are the only class that can't autocast some of their attacks properly, I think it wouldn't make much difference. I agree mages are the only class that cant automatically use all of there attacks like the other classes can but as i tried to put forward the base experiance gained by each spells is calculated with how easy it is to cast in mind (among other things aswell) I played RSC aswell RS2, i dont want to turn it into an RS2 product discussion as i see them as a pointless attempt at eliteism Yes autoing does make the time a lot less tedious but jagex have decided not to include it in the game, they have created rules against it and therefore if we wish to continue playing the game we have to play it as the creator intended, i can think of a few who do allow autoing and if u want to play a game with autoing then u would be best off playing those as i dont see jagex moving on this policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted December 29, 2005 Author Share Posted December 29, 2005 Well, considering "Cook X" and such are official autos, I don't see why implementing Hotkeys would be considered "illegal autoing". Also, when i first thought of this idea I intended it to become for combat purposes... I didn't intend it to become a skill auto, although I don't see any wrong in that. And by the way, Hotkeys don't allow you to automine or autowoodcut or autofish and such, so why is it considered autoing? Autoing is doing something without you being there to control it, like AFK training or botting. Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123fork Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Do u mean the f1 keys or the number keys or the Letter keys im fine with the number or f1 keys but not really with the letter becuase it can be akward to already have a Button for r as a Hotkey and u want to put it as Run but u put it as Walk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaidinWoT Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 123fork, he said self-assignable, that means you can assign whatever you want to whichever key you please. If you have a big red button on your keyboard that says "This key is to be used as a hotkey for RuneScape when it gets hotkeys", than by all means, use that as your hotkey. If you want to make it impossible to type the letter "z" without doing the 'joy jump' emote, that's fine too. It's whatever you want to assign to whatever you want to do, if its ever added in, JAGeX isn't going to say "Okay, you can only assign things to keys "e", "s", "t", and "q"" (and if they do, it kind of defeats the purpose of self-assignability). Toxicologist has repeatedly stated that you may assign whatever you want to whatever key you want. Add your blog to the BlogScape Index!SaidinWoT can now be tracked easily on weekends - Erm, maybe when I start playing again.Levels do not measure intelligence OR maturity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123fork Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 123fork, he said self-assignable, that means you can assign whatever you want to whichever key you please. If you have a big red button on your keyboard that says "This key is to be used as a hotkey for RuneScape when it gets hotkeys", than by all means, use that as your hotkey. If you want to make it impossible to type the letter "z" without doing the 'joy jump' emote, that's fine too. It's whatever you want to assign to whatever you want to do, if its ever added in, JAGeX isn't going to say "Okay, you can only assign things to keys "e", "s", "t", and "q"" (and if they do, it kind of defeats the purpose of self-assignability). Toxicologist has repeatedly stated that you may assign whatever you want to whatever key you want. ok ok i just wanted to know i probably did not see them and donot think im a idiot or im blind i just didnot see his posts on that ok :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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