SoulWars Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Do you guys reckon it'd be worth buying a zaryte bow 4 TD use? kthx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foursideking Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 No. 1- you can get the same effect for cheaper with a crystal bow. And 2- it'd be best to wait until the price of it drops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxx Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 No. 1- you can get the same effect for cheaper with a crystal bow. And 2- it'd be best to wait until the price of it drops...Chances are you're going to be much more efficient with Zaryte than with Crystal. Faster kills = Faster money. That being said though, i don't find that huge of a jump in price to be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 No. 1- you can get the same effect for cheaper with a crystal bow. And 2- it'd be best to wait until the price of it drops... No you can't. C bow is roughly equivalent to a magic short bow or magic long bow with rune arrows. Zartyre bow is roughly equivalent to the chaotic crossbow with rune bolts, albeit two handed and possible slower. Frankly though, wait till the price goes down :P Like, few months. Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Also worth noting that as the zbow loses charge it doesn't lose strength like the crystal bow does. The recharge cost is nothing so if you have cash to spare (overloads and turmoil available as well as all your gear being set) go ahead. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Maybe if it is around 20mil... remember you have to repair it every-time... http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 The crystal bow doesn't hit over 300 much (max is 310) and is quite accurate, making it a decent option for steel titan tding. However you need to use the crystal bow trick which makes it very very useless. The zaryte bow is nice with a maul I guess, but the handcannon is probably better. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I consider karils xbow the way to go low max hit, just under 250 in my case.which is very handy for steel titans at TD's and because of it's fast firing rate, it has high DPS in spite of its low max hit, due to its firing rate (higher DPS than the zaryte bow) if you don't steel titan, handcannon is still better than zaryte bow.Only advantage of the zaryte bow is that it costs less money to fire, per hour, than say handcannon or karils xbow.But ultimately it is inferior to both in terms of damage rate. It's just ironic that the main advantage of such an expensive weapon, is that it saves you money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Actually hand cannon does have more dps than karils bow so I assume it would be better at tds. I'm too lazy to rewrite my program for td simulations tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Actually hand cannon does have more dps than karils bow so I assume it would be better at tds. I'm too lazy to rewrite my program for td simulations tho.It's only about ~6% more DPS though.I don't think that's worth interrupting steel titan specs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 what do you mean by interrupting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 what do you mean by interruptingProbably that the handcannon deals too much range damage and then the TD prays range so the titan can't hit, with xbow you deal a decent amount and then the titan finishes off the rest (Assuming, never actually done TD's but I think that's what Grimy's getting at). http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22 99 Necromancy since 11/22/25 Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 33 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 10 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Yes it is. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWars Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Well, I don't like using steel titans and I play RuneScape for fun, now. ;) I think a Karil's crossbow would be too tiring to use because of the speed and my firemaking level is really low for using a hand cannon. And I probably won't get it up... it's a game- spending 100 hours bored on a game makes no sense. So therefore, I'm left with a chaotic crossbow, rune crossbow, a Zaryte bow, crystal bow, etc. The crystal bow sucks, pretty muchChaotic crossbow - low alchemy value and I only range at TDsRune crossbow - what I'm currently using along with runite boltsKaril's - too tiring, seems expensiveZaryte bow - this bow seems really good for TDs... requires no ammo (picking up bolts at TDs suck :P), is as fast and accurate as the CCbow, has +115 ranged strength.. Hand cannon - +150 strength BUT really slow, 90+ accuracy, explodes.. hmm. I think I'll just wait for its price to drop but until then use rune cbow Thx for ur input, fellas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Why is karils more tiring than runite bolts with cbow? You don't have to pick up bolts with karils. A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWars Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Why is karils more tiring than runite bolts with cbow? You don't have to pick up bolts with karils.faster, less damaging hits = more observation on the xp counter + less time to switch inb4 gremmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Why is karils more tiring than runite bolts with cbow? You don't have to pick up bolts with karils.faster, less damaging hits = more observation on the xp counter + less time to switch inb4 gremmywhy did you list handcannon as VERY slow?it's the exact same firing speed as zaryte bow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWars Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Why is karils more tiring than runite bolts with cbow? You don't have to pick up bolts with karils.faster, less damaging hits = more observation on the xp counter + less time to switch inb4 gremmywhy did you list handcannon as VERY slow?it's the exact same firing speed as zaryte bowI thought it was quicker if set on rapid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Why is karils more tiring than runite bolts with cbow? You don't have to pick up bolts with karils.faster, less damaging hits = more observation on the xp counter + less time to switch inb4 gremmywhy did you list handcannon as VERY slow?it's the exact same firing speed as zaryte bowI thought it was quicker if set on rapid?handcannon on rapid is the same speed as zaryte bow on rapidlikewise handcannon on accurate/longrange is the same speed as zaryte bow on accurate/longrange. the bottom line is if you can deal with the explosions and cost of ammo,+35 ranged strength is always more useful than +30-38 ranged attack.even on high defense monsters. and TD's don't even have that much defense.unless you have strange requirements like low max hit, which is why I liked karils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWars Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Why is karils more tiring than runite bolts with cbow? You don't have to pick up bolts with karils.faster, less damaging hits = more observation on the xp counter + less time to switch inb4 gremmywhy did you list handcannon as VERY slow?it's the exact same firing speed as zaryte bowI thought it was quicker if set on rapid?nope handcannon on rapid is the same speed as zaryte bow on rapidlikewise handcannon on accurate/longrange is the same speed as zaryte bow on accurate/longrange. the bottom line is if you can deal with the explosions and cost of ammo,+35 ranged strength is always more useful than +30-38 ranged attack.dude, you probably read about its speed off rswiki, yeah?well, there, it says that the rune cbow's speed is 4 too (which is, according to RSW, the same as the hand cannon's) and I'm like 90% sure that the r cbow is faster than a hand cannon <.< therefore, the bow should be too, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 dude, you probably read about its speed off rswiki, yeah?well, there, it says that the rune cbow's speed is 4 too (which is, according to RSW, the same as the hand cannon's) and I'm like 90% sure that the r cbow is faster than a hand cannon <.< therefore, the bow should be too, right?RS wiki is correct in this case.They're the same speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWars Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 dude, you probably read about its speed off rswiki, yeah?well, there, it says that the rune cbow's speed is 4 too (which is, according to RSW, the same as the hand cannon's) and I'm like 90% sure that the r cbow is faster than a hand cannon <.< therefore, the bow should be too, right?RS wiki is correct in this case.They're the same speed.So, what would you recommend me to do for TDing? :o btw, ranger boots > d boots there, right? ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 dude, you probably read about its speed off rswiki, yeah?well, there, it says that the rune cbow's speed is 4 too (which is, according to RSW, the same as the hand cannon's) and I'm like 90% sure that the r cbow is faster than a hand cannon <.< therefore, the bow should be too, right?RS wiki is correct in this case.They're the same speed.So, what would you recommend me to do for TDing? :o btw, ranger boots > d boots there, right? tyI prefer Dboots, since a steel titan deals most of the ranged damage.I also still like karils, but if it's too many xp splats then you should probably use something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWars Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 dude, you probably read about its speed off rswiki, yeah?well, there, it says that the rune cbow's speed is 4 too (which is, according to RSW, the same as the hand cannon's) and I'm like 90% sure that the r cbow is faster than a hand cannon <.< therefore, the bow should be too, right?RS wiki is correct in this case.They're the same speed.So, what would you recommend me to do for TDing? :o btw, ranger boots > d boots there, right? tyI prefer Dboots, since a steel titan deals most of the ranged damage.I also still like karils, but if it's too many xp splats then you should probably use something else.ehm i dont use a steel titanim down the uni:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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