rapier

[dukky]

^I honestly wouldn't bother at lighthouse dags or abberant spectres, everywhere else rapier.

Well at a multicombat cannon task you should be using a cls or maul to increase the cannon's accuracy, and a rapier would be worth it for this over whip anyway.

[Dex]

 

Well at a multicombat cannon task you should be using a cls or maul to increase the cannon's accuracy, and a rapier would be worth it for this over whip anyway.

 

I saw that tip on runewiki as well, does anybody know for definite if cm with cannon is better then cr with cannon on slayer tasks.

[LitterBug]

 

Well at a multicombat cannon task you should be using a cls or maul to increase the cannon's accuracy, and a rapier would be worth it for this over whip anyway.

 

I saw that tip on runewiki as well, does anybody know for definite if cm with cannon is better then cr with cannon on slayer tasks.

 

well, the cannon's hit rate depends only on the accuracy of the weapon you're using.

the higher the accuracy - the more often it hits

[Th e Doctor]

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[Dex]

well, the cannon's hit rate depends only on the accuracy of the weapon you're using.

the higher the accuracy - the more often it hits

 

Well yea I got that part, but is the increased accuracy of a cannon worth the dps loss when you use a cm instead of cr

[jsboutin2]

It does depend on the number of game ticks when you hit or get it, and obviously you et it more often in multi combat. I just wish people without something would stop talking about it when there are obviously many people that DO have it. I've noticed my rapier to last waaay more in single than multi-way. Actually, way more than 10 hours, I'd say.

[Quyneax]

^I honestly wouldn't bother at lighthouse dags or abberant spectres, everywhere else rapier.

Well at a multicombat cannon task you should be using a cls or maul to increase the cannon's accuracy, and a rapier would be worth it for this over whip anyway.

Not true, for example rapier > cls at frosts, heck even void handcannon > void deflector + ccbow (63 ranged attack difference, but you also lose like 20% primary weapon dps). Just use a rapier or a whip. Now that's obviously single combat, but there is very little difference between the setups in terms of cannon xp/hr.

[Existent]

^I honestly wouldn't bother at lighthouse dags or abberant spectres, everywhere else rapier.

Well at a multicombat cannon task you should be using a cls or maul to increase the cannon's accuracy, and a rapier would be worth it for this over whip anyway.

Not true, for example rapier > cls at frosts, heck even void handcannon > void deflector + ccbow (63 ranged attack difference, but you also lose like 20% primary weapon dps). Just use a rapier or a whip. Now that's obviously single combat, but there is very little difference between the setups in terms of cannon xp/hr.

Frost dragons aren't multicombat

 

Off-topic: I like how your sig says goal complete dukky :P

[Lose No Hope]

^I honestly wouldn't bother at lighthouse dags or abberant spectres, everywhere else rapier.

Well at a multicombat cannon task you should be using a cls or maul to increase the cannon's accuracy, and a rapier would be worth it for this over whip anyway.

Not true, for example rapier > cls at frosts, heck even void handcannon > void deflector + ccbow (63 ranged attack difference, but you also lose like 20% primary weapon dps). Just use a rapier or a whip. Now that's obviously single combat, but there is very little difference between the setups in terms of cannon xp/hr.

Frost dragons aren't multicombat

So?

[Existent]

^I honestly wouldn't bother at lighthouse dags or abberant spectres, everywhere else rapier.

Well at a multicombat cannon task you should be using a cls or maul to increase the cannon's accuracy, and a rapier would be worth it for this over whip anyway.

Not true, for example rapier > cls at frosts, heck even void handcannon > void deflector + ccbow (63 ranged attack difference, but you also lose like 20% primary weapon dps). Just use a rapier or a whip. Now that's obviously single combat, but there is very little difference between the setups in terms of cannon xp/hr.

Frost dragons aren't multicombat

So?

So the cannon isn't doing as much of the work as it would be in a multicombat area like spectres or dagannoths.

[Lose No Hope]

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^I honestly wouldn't bother at lighthouse dags or abberant spectres, everywhere else rapier.

Well at a multicombat cannon task you should be using a cls or maul to increase the cannon's accuracy, and a rapier would be worth it for this over whip anyway.

Not true, for example rapier > cls at frosts, heck even void handcannon > void deflector + ccbow (63 ranged attack difference, but you also lose like 20% primary weapon dps). Just use a rapier or a whip. Now that's obviously single combat, but there is very little difference between the setups in terms of cannon xp/hr.

Frost dragons aren't multicombat

So?

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So the cannon isn't doing as much of the work as it would be in a multicombat area like spectres or dagannoths.

Go back and read what Quyneax said. She already said it was single combat. A cannon still does a lot of the work.

 

Have you ever cannoned black demons in single combat? I can drop them much faster with a cannon than I can without.

[Existent]

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^I honestly wouldn't bother at lighthouse dags or abberant spectres, everywhere else rapier.

Well at a multicombat cannon task you should be using a cls or maul to increase the cannon's accuracy, and a rapier would be worth it for this over whip anyway.

Not true, for example rapier > cls at frosts, heck even void handcannon > void deflector + ccbow (63 ranged attack difference, but you also lose like 20% primary weapon dps). Just use a rapier or a whip. Now that's obviously single combat, but there is very little difference between the setups in terms of cannon xp/hr.

Frost dragons aren't multicombat

So?

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So the cannon isn't doing as much of the work as it would be in a multicombat area like spectres or dagannoths.

Go back and read what Quyneax said. She already said it was single combat. A cannon still does a lot of the work.

 

Have you ever cannoned black demons in single combat? I can drop them much faster with a cannon than I can without.

I'm saying that something like frost dragons shouldn't be compared to a task like dagannoths where, I assume, the cannon does a higher percentage of the work. There is a certain percent of work the cannon has to do for it to be worth it to give up the melee dps for the extra cannon accuracy. It may not be worth it at frost dragons but it still could be at dagannoths.

 

Yes, I have cannoned quite a few black demons in single combat, probably about 1k in the past week.

[Quyneax]

Even at cave crawlers and dags, your primary weapon and familiar (assuming steel titan) take care of around 30% of your total damage output. Since frosts are single combat (and you'd want to use a yak anyway) you can't use a familiar. And your familiar should be included in primary weapon dps in this case as they don't depend on your gear bonus at all.

 

http://forum.tip.it/topic/280097-effigyscape-wip/

 

That shows that even though the cannon is very close to the highest damage it can do (5k cannonballs per hour, max is 6k) melee + familiar is still 30% of the kills. At frosts, ranged is 40% of the kills. So I don't think the comparison is that far off really.