AHappySeeker Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Simply put, where does it currently stand in terms of xp rates without using the 2x bow trick to prevent decay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Below chins, darts, knives, Karil's crossbow, handcannon, obsidian throwing rings, magic shortbow, probably god bows, zaryte bow and crossbows too. It still beats um, rune javelins? Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 Wow. Are you 100% on it being worse than a rune xbow with broads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 479 max with broads, void, xrange, rigour. 392 with full crystal bow and the same. You lose 20 accuracy (up to 28 with pernix top) and increasing with each degrade. The max lowers, too. The crossbow attacks every 5 ticks on rapid, the crystal bow 4 ticks I think? So that's 5 bow hits per 4 crossbow hits, e.g. 1960 vs 1916 max damage in 20 ticks. I never said you'd be using broads though, crossbows should be used with rune, ruby or diamond bolts. For rune bolts, the max is 522 for 2088 max damage in 20 ticks. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Only place I'd ever consider using it is somewhere where I need to switch weapons with two 2h weapons.. which would be.. TDS with possibly maul? Yep, useless Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Kxbow or hand cannon destroys crystal bow at tds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 Far too poor to afford higher bolts until I motivate myself to raise my dung. I guess I'll be training with ye olde darts + ferocious ring. Fyi, crystal bow is every 3 ticks on rapid. Does that change things? EDIT: I'm skipping TDs and just grinding slayer until bolt racks come down again. It's just ridiculous right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Crystal bows are 4 ticks rapid. There really isn't a point in using them especially if you don't use the degrade trick. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Far too poor to afford higher bolts until I motivate myself to raise my dung. I guess I'll be training with ye olde darts + ferocious ring. Fyi, crystal bow is every 3 ticks on rapid. Does that change things? EDIT: I'm skipping TDs and just grinding slayer until bolt racks come down again. It's just ridiculous right now.Crystal bow is more expensive than rune bolts. Derp. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 Crystal bows are 4 ticks rapid. There really isn't a point in using them especially if you don't use the degrade trick. Derp. My bad. I had a brain fart. Crystal bow is more expensive than rune bolts. Derp. I've already got the recharge cost down to its minimum from before xbows came out. Does this, coupled witht he recent change to crystal bows and the fact that I have two of the things change your decisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatinII Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I only compared Ranged weapons against a person with 136 Ranged defence armor and an effective Defence level of 156. The crystal bow came out worse than Karil's crossbow, Zaryte bow, rune crossbow with runite bolts, magic shortbow with God arrows, chaotic crossbow with runite bolts, hand cannon, rune knives and magic longbow (sighted) with God arrows. It's only better than a dark bow :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 I assume it's better than rune xbow and broads, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I assume it's better than rune xbow and broads, correct?a full crystal bow is ~2.13% more base DPS than rune xbow and broads. varying very slightly based on ranged level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 I see. Thank you very much for doing the work that I'm too hopeless to do. It looks like I'm sticking with darts and ring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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