Fastest Crimson Charms

[Soulthresher]

I would love to upgrade my summoning from 88 to 96 and would prefer to gain charms using Range.

 

Now the question is, which method would be quickest?

 

I thought about cannoning Black Demons in Taverly Dungeon which is roughly 180 crims/hr?

 

or

 

Chinning Nechs in the Chaos Tunnels for an unknown amount per hour...(I don't know and can't find it)

 

 

The alternative method would be to suck it up and get a Chaotic Maul and camp waterfiends for roughly 90 crimsons per hour (yet again, I'm not sure).

 

I would prefer to train range while doing so as I already have 99 Magic and Attack but if my methods are inefficient, I would gladly take advice.

 

Stats in Sig; Void Elite, 99% quests done, cannon, piety, karils, small bank

 

tl;dr

 

Need charms and range xp, how do?

[Nomrombom]

Cannoning blacks sounds fine. Void doesn't apply to cannon (I think, not sure about this) so you'll just want the highest possible bonus of anything you can get. Something like bandos + rapier + fury + zerker + dboots and praying melee would work very well.

[All_Is_Great]

Actually with the amount of bots there are @ Black demons, I don't think cannoning them is very good anymore.

 

Instead, try and find the guide on Skeletal Wyvern cannoning and you can get some fast crims + profit. However I think you use a melee weapon, but you get range exp from cannon so all's good.

[Nomrombom]

I don't know about that. As long as you play at non peak hours in 1500+ worlds and use the non safespot side of the cavern, you should get max or near max. Could even do it on the safespot side, real players tend to moan about cannon being there and then mope and leave.

[All_Is_Great]

Idk there's usually people competing, could try foreign worlds though.

 

But I'm just suggesting a second opinion when all else fails.

[Loffelicious]

Although its not exactly what you're asking for, its a method of fast crimsons, and using a cannon.. You're lacking a bit of the requirements though. See the guide in my sig :)

[All_Is_Great]

^That was the guide I was referring to, definately check it out.

[LitterBug]

I don't know about that. As long as you play at non peak hours in 1500+ worlds and use the non safespot side of the cavern, you should get max or near max. Could even do it on the safespot side, real players tend to moan about cannon being there and then mope and leave.

 

Have you tried it?

Honestly, its the most annoying thing ever - unless you get on right after an update.

 

At any given time, there is always 4+ bots in there. There's also more who are running to and from the bank.

It's just absolutely horrible.

However, you can get on foreign worlds. At first, it's a little confusing but you should remember what drop is what as long as you stick to the same foreign worlds.

[Metaform]

Shameless endorsement of the Wyvern cannoning, from a former, okay current addict. Cannoning the Wyverns is like 4-500k profit on top of charms, after supply cost an hour roughly. You could range them I guess, but their defense seems too high to get the same kill rates as slashing melee + cannon. Depends what you value more, charms, ranged experience, or profit (as you said your bank is small).

 

As for Black Demons, I went there on task the other day and couldn't find a decent world in 30minutes of hopping. Chaos Tunnel/resource dungeon demons were vacant at the time, but the charms seemed horrible even with a decrepit spirit dagg familiar helping with piety and extremes. Probably as bad as Taverly with bots. :thumbdown:

 

Chinning Nechryaels is good ranged experience, but the charm rate seemed poor the last time I went. Might still profit without a yak though, not 100% sure as seed prices and what not have crashed.

 

 

:^_^:

[Roguewolf500]

Assuming you don't wanna go to rock lobs, and want to range+cannon, try Wallasalki, in waterbirth, the room with 5 in it is multi. I know you wanted fastest crims, but overall this is decent "charm exp", range and profit per hour. Blues were erratic for me I was gettin 20-45 an hour, crims grns and golds are roughly 30 per hour. But I was using melee with cannon. Pray mage and do not let it run out, death comes fast, so you may wanna have a door partner on stand by.

[LitterBug]

A while ago - when I wanted to train summoning, I looked up some information on monsters with good charm drops.

 

I always heard that Wallasalki's were good charm droppers but killing them is a hassle. Don't they have a tendency to run away once they get to a certain hp?

How do you deal with it?

[Roguewolf500]

A while ago - when I wanted to train summoning, I looked up some information on monsters with good charm drops.

 

I always heard that Wallasalki's were good charm droppers but killing them is a hassle. Don't they have a tendency to run away once they get to a certain hp?

How do you deal with it?

 

The room with 5 is small enough they are almost always in cannon range, with the exception of 2 steps from the north and south side. Play with cannon location, right in the middle, you may have to move 1 or 2 steps north or south to get just right. The first room with 20 or so in it is useless, its single combat and they always run out of cannon range.

[Quyneax]

Don't melee wallasalkis, they are very weak to ranged, like all waterbirth mage creatures (e.g. Prime). They are fairly good blues and almost entirely limited by spawns, so be sure to use a 2000 population world.

 

Black demons are ~180 crims/hr equivalent, which includes opening summoning effigies & using the lamp on summoning, as well as gold charms. Also that assumes you get ~270 kph or more, which is hard with all the bots.

 

Wyverns are a little slower than demons mainly due to the lack of effigy drops but they are nowhere near as crowded, downside is you really need turmoil there.

 

Chinning nechs is good ranged xp and charms and likely the ideal place for you to train, but as with all these methods you lose some money due to not having a yak. Since you do not have 95 prayer, urns will do you a service here.

 

I'd suggest slaying for 99 strength and defence first, cannoning tasks as appropriate, which will get you more ranged xp as well. If you want to get a yak and iron titan for slayer, I'd go with nechs.

[Loffelicious]

What previous said^

[Nomrombom]

What the woman said ^

 

 

Fix'd.

[mlskid]

What the woman said ^

 

 

Fix'd.

 

 

O_O

 

OT: erm yeah. What Quyneax said... and yeah she is a girl. haha.