archimage_a Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 (PP is Per Province)Retech 46 Japan:92 Cash (2 PP)23 Tech (0.5 PP)18,400 Manpower (400 PP) 4 China:4 Cash (1 PP)1.6 Tech (1 PP)1.6 warfare Tech (1 PP)2,000 Manpower (500 PP) Total:96 Cash24.6 Tech1.6 Warfare Tech20,400 Manpower --------------Mather 50 Middle East:500 Cash (1 PP)0 Tech (0 PP)75 Wierd tech (1.5 PP)25,000 Manpower (500 PP) Total:500 Cash0 Tech75 Wierd tech25,000 Manpower --------------Res 50 Southern Europe60 Cash (1.2 PP)20 Tech (0.4 PP)25,000 Manpower Total:60 Cash (1.2 PP)20 Tech (0.4 PP)25,000 Manpower -----------Grim 50 Western Europe10 Cash (0.2 PP)25 Tech (0.5 PP)20 Production Tech (0.4 PP)25,000 Manpower (500 PP) Total:10 Cash (0.2 PP)25 Tech (0.5 PP)20 Production Tech (0.4 PP)25,000 Manpower (500 PP) -----------------Rocco 14 Khanate14 Cash (1 PP)7 Tech (0.5 PP)7 Production Tech (0.5 PP)0 Manpower (0 PP) 36 Eurals14.4 Cash (0.4 PP)18 Tech (0.5 PP)10.8 Space Tech (0.3 PP)13,000 Manpower (500 PP) Total:18.4 Cash25 Tech7 Production Tech10.8 Space Tech13,000 Manpower ---------------Dusty 50 Eurals20 Cash (0.4 PP)25 Tech (0.5 PP)15 Space Tech (0.3 PP)25,000 Manpower (500 PP) Total:20 Cash25 Tech15 Space Tech25,000 Manpower ----------------Spork 31 English America31 Cash (1 PP)15.5 Civil Tech (0.5 PP)9.3 Tech (0.5 PP)15,500 Manpower (500 PP) 29 Canada87 Cash (3 PP)14.5 Tech (0.5 PP)2,900 Manpower (100 PP) Total:118 Cash15.5 Civil tech13.8 Tech18,400 Manpower ----------------Dungeonal 50 Spanish America0 Cash (0 PP)25 Tech (0.5 PP)35,000 Manpower (700 PP) Total:0 Cash25 Tech35,000 Manpower http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 I will be going through the list and changing things, so that is just the placeholder for a basic outline right now. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 Changes I have made Middle East is now +0.8 weird tech -0.25 tech, effectively because having all your provinces in there (Mather) would have no technological process out of weird tech. Spanish America is now +200 Manpower -0.5 Cash, because otherwise they'd have no money. New list Retech 46 Japan:92 Cash (2 PP)23 Tech (0.5 PP)18,400 Manpower (400 PP) 4 China:4 Cash (1 PP)1.6 Tech (1 PP)1.6 warfare Tech (1 PP)2,000 Manpower (500 PP) Total:96 Cash24.6 Tech1.6 Warfare Tech20,400 Manpower --------------Mather 50 Middle East:50 Cash (1 PP)12.5 Tech (0.25 PP)40 Wierd tech (0.8 PP)25,000 Manpower (500 PP) Total:50 Cash12.5 Tech40 Wierd tech25,000 Manpower --------------Res 50 Southern Europe60 Cash (1.2 PP)20 Tech (0.4 PP)25,000 Manpower Total:60 Cash (1.2 PP)20 Tech (0.4 PP)25,000 Manpower -----------Grim 50 Western Europe10 Cash (0.2 PP)25 Tech (0.5 PP)20 Production Tech (0.4 PP)25,000 Manpower (500 PP) Total:10 Cash (0.2 PP)25 Tech (0.5 PP)20 Production Tech (0.4 PP)25,000 Manpower (500 PP) -----------------Rocco 14 Khanate14 Cash (1 PP)7 Tech (0.5 PP)7 Production Tech (0.5 PP)0 Manpower (0 PP) 36 Eurals14.4 Cash (0.4 PP)18 Tech (0.5 PP)10.8 Space Tech (0.3 PP)13,000 Manpower (500 PP) Total:18.4 Cash25 Tech7 Production Tech10.8 Space Tech13,000 Manpower ---------------Dusty 50 Eurals20 Cash (0.4 PP)25 Tech (0.5 PP)15 Space Tech (0.3 PP)25,000 Manpower (500 PP) Total:20 Cash25 Tech15 Space Tech25,000 Manpower ----------------Spork 31 English America31 Cash (1 PP)15.5 Civil Tech (0.5 PP)9.3 Tech (0.5 PP)15,500 Manpower (500 PP) 29 Canada87 Cash (3 PP)14.5 Tech (0.5 PP)2,900 Manpower (100 PP) Total:118 Cash15.5 Civil tech13.8 Tech18,400 Manpower ----------------Dungeonal 50 Spanish America25 Cash (0.5 PP)25 Tech (0.5 PP)35,000 Manpower (700 PP) Total:25 Cash25 Tech35,000 Manpower Colonisation Rules: If you would like to colonise you have to send base 5 cash and 1000 manpower, that would grant you a 50% base chance, before reduction to suceed at the colonisation, while 10 cash is 100% succeed chance before reduction. Reductions are decided by a dice roll, and if you fail the reductions are permanent to the province, so I wont rerol the province. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Wait, since my weird tech is by far greater than any other tech levels here, does that mean my nation is a savant of the weird?How long do you reckon it would take me to create a virtual world? Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 I'm not sure, depends what you mean by virtual world. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Matrix-like. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 You mean something people can connect to and have senses inside the virtual world? Err, I'm not sure, sounds pretty high tech and would require a massive server. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 High-tech indeed, but this is more than half a century in the future and I am pretty much the most skilled nation at such weird technology. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Well, with the exponentially increasing levels, it seems that it will take a rather long time. :P Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 I'd give a guestimate of around 25 years, but I don't actually see the benefit. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Me neither, it could have some uses but that would require further, more specific research. I wanted to know because that gives me a rough estimate of how skilled I am. Am I correct in assuming the same technology would take about 80-90 years for the US? Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 I'm not sure, probably 50. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Rocco 14 Khanate14 Cash (1 PP)7 Tech (0.5 PP)7 Production Tech (0.5 PP)0 Manpower (0 PP) 36 Eurals14.4 Cash (0.4 PP)18 Tech (0.5 PP)10.8 Space Tech (0.3 PP)13,000 Manpower (500 PP) Total:28.4 Cash25 Tech7 Production Tech10.8 Space Tech13,000 Manpower (Sorry Rocco, was early morning when I was doing it =P) @ Mather: USA has a 0.5 Tech growth, so assuming 200 provinces, they grow by 100 per year.Level 5 Wierd Tech would be 200+200+400+800+1,600=3,200.Ergo, 32 years, if they only did Wierd Tech. Of course, plopping down projects left right and center to speed up tech research would help considerably. As to the savant nature of your country:I would assume that if you only funded super tech, and ignored all the basic, rational, advancements:Aka Sword to Glock, rather than Sword to Steel Sword, to Halberd, to Pike, to Cannon to Pistol to Glock.Then your country would be technologically backwards, but still have cutting edge science. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 So it would take... 239+2 = 549,755,814,088 years for the US to reach my level of weird tech if they were 4 times as big as they could start as. By that time the sun will be dead for many times its lifetime and the universe would probably have imploded/expanded into the big freeze. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Since you are level 0, and they are level 0, and they grow at 0.5 per year, and you grow at 0.25+0.8 (1.05), then they would never catch up to you if they had equal provinces, and would require 210% of your number of provinces to break even with you. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 That implies that everyone will rush weird tech. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 By the way you worded it, it seemed like what they had 0.5 at was increasing tech group bonuses. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Rocco takes National Idea 'Troll Saudi Arabia', and hilarity ensues as the population of Russia log on to the Virtual World and use their matrix powers to destroy it. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 So yeah, I'm not sure there's anything else to work out for people, everyone seems to be fine with the changes and the rules, so we can start. I'll update the first post soon. Just to note, you start off with 5X Manpower and Cash Also please will you post some sort of RP background, so I know how you want to play your nation. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Ship prices would be nice. Also, the stats need to include tech levels, army skill, fleet skill, any other modifers. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 Oh yes. Okay I'll do that right now. Finished: CapitalNone Large ShipFrigate----- OFFENSIVE:3-----HULL:4-----SPEED:2 COST: 30 Cash, 2500 ManpowerBattleship----OFFENSIVE:5----HULL:3----SPEED:1 COST: 35 Cash, 2500 Manpower Small ShipEscort----- OFFENSIVE: 1--------HULL: 2-------- SPEED: 3 Cost: 10 Cash, 1000 ManpowerCruiser---- OFFENSIVE: 2--------HULL: 2-------- SPEED: 2 Cost: 10 Cash, 1000 Manpower TransportCarrier----OFFENSIVE: 0----- HULL: 3------SPEED: 3 Cost: 15 Cash, 1000 ManpowerCargo Ship---- OFFENSIVE: 0----- HULL:4----- SPEED: 2 Cost: 20 Cash, 1500 Manpower Fleet Skill will improve the fleet as a whole, but a FleetSkill%, so 1 fleet skill increases the entire fleeets offensive (let's say 3 battleships, so 15 offensive, by 0.15)Although massive fleets will have lower maneuvarability, if they are fighting much smaller fleets, such as a gigantic fleet attempting to take out 1 ship. Maneuvarability only takes effect during gigantic fleets v small fleets, otherwise ignore it. Fleetskill is generally for large v large. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I would like my national idea to be 'Develop', please. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 With what effect? It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 National Idea: State Shinto"Yeah, those are ours too."Effect: Bonus when fighting to defend home soil (Includes attacking someone on home soil to get them off, but generally, defending Japanese territory) The year was 2070, a new age for the Japanese people. The rise to greatness since the end of world war two had come quickly, but at the cost of the pride for the Japanese people. Now that the Americans were no longer a world power, it was time for Japan to reassume its mantle of greatness, but this time, through peace. The loss of American military protection meant that Japan was without defence, so the Emporer called on the ancient military traditions and the duty to the emporer. Now that Japan's armies have been rebuilt and its people reinvigorated, it is the duty of the emporer and the Japanese people to lead the way forward through the development of advanced defensive armies and the creation of national institutions. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 there is so much crap being talked about why is my nation so [cabbage] comparatively with everyone else? what does manpower do, if it's constrained by 'cash' (lol) then its useless having a high manpower since my cash and tech is abysmal 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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