(update: if you have already read this post, go to the 2nd page for an update which tells you how to get 99 mage in under 4 hours for 65M)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

update on jan 16, 2006: you need to be able to cast low lvl alchemy to enter this room now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All the trading going on in the alchemist workshop at the mage training area made me think about the usefulness of the place for someone creating a mage pure and has a lot of cash/resources for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I see people selling nats or other items for cash in the alchemy area. The cash when deposited gives you mage xp at a rate of 2xp per gp. This basically means that with about 6.5M gp in that area, you can get 13M xp which is 99 mage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To make 6.5M gp in the area, one option is to sell nats which you can bring from outside and sell for 10-15gp ea or even 20 gp ea if someone is willing to pay that much. At the lowest price level which will let you get to your target faster, 6.5M gp requires 650k nats. At 300 ea, that amounts to 195M.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you sell nats at 15 ea, the cost comes to 130M --- a blue p hat might be enough.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At 20 ea, the cost becomes 98.5M.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What are the chances someone makes use of this to get 99 mage without actually casting a single spell? Presumably for a merchant/staker with enough resources, this is chump change. Speed of training mage this way can be quite significant limited only by the rate at which you can sell the nats. If there are enough people training by alching in the area, I would expect a sale rate of more than 20k runes per hour at 10 ea is not unreasonable. That can be about 400k xp per hour or more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For those who want to train at the mage training area by actually doing the alching, getting nats at 10 ea is a bargain and makes it profitable for them as well and also brings in more people willing to spend time alching in there. With both demand and supply, this looks good from both perspectives.

... That's so little magic work for the lazy ppl... and so much for the not lazy ppl :shock:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's possible to just merchant... then while still merchanting get lvl 99 magic :shock: .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a merchant/magic pure's dream....

very nice now delete the post :P

 

 

 

before jagex will get the mage exp per coin away :P

 

 

 

i know what to do :P

I thought of asking people to help me alch by giving them nats and telling them to get free alching exp, but giving the cash to me. My way is better, but might take longer. This way, you get people to turn nats into cash.

I thought of asking people to help me alch by giving them nats and telling them to get free alching exp, but giving the cash to me. My way is better, but might take longer. This way, you get people to turn nats into cash.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is basically same as selling nats at 30 ea to the alchers. Sure its cheaper for you but less attractive to a smart alcher. But ..... what are dull-headed friends for if you cant take advantage of them ..eh?

Bluntly:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

me no get it

Basically what they are saying is sell nats for the fools gold you alch in the training area. Since you get xp for depositing money (as well as alching) you will get enough xp at 6.5m fools gold for lvl 99 mage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pretty cool idea.

its a shame its going to be changed soon but its cool nonetheless

Basically what they are saying is sell nats for the fools gold you alch in the training area. Since you get xp for depositing money (as well as alching) you will get enough xp at 6.5m fools gold for lvl 99 mage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pretty cool idea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So do you need to bring your own things to alch and own nats or money? I wanna get some fast mage xp... =)

Interesting... If it really is so "easy" to sell your nats there, then I wonder how many people are going to do that and how long it'll last till Jagex removes that possibility because they figured out it gives mage exp too fast / makes it too 'buyable'. ;)

or you could have a lot more fun ice bursting in castle wars for 100m less. it would also be way faster than buying all those nats then selling them in that room.

Wow i already see people doing this... :roll:

or you could have a lot more fun ice bursting in castle wars for 100m less. it would also be way faster than buying all those nats then selling them in that room.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But you can do this all the way from lvl 1 :shock:

The only problem with this is that it's not like you'll be able to sell all of those nats at once, or even quickly. It will probably take quite a while to get enough money from the people there. The most that I've had at a single time is 1k. It could certainly work, and is a good way to get a nice boost in mage exp... but you won't get to 99 mage from 1 in a day. Besides, I'd image that most people deposit their money as soon as they get a respectable sum (500 gp or so) just because it only takes a second and acts as a precaution against logging and losing a lot of hard work.

 

or you could have a lot more fun ice bursting in castle wars for 100m less. it would also be way faster than buying all those nats then selling them in that room.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But you can do this all the way from lvl 1 :shock:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no, you can do it from 55 since you need to high alch to enter the room. besides, if you have 200m to spend on mage in the first place 1-70 and desert treasure should be no trouble for you. or screw it and get 66 mage and a mud staff and just vulnerability your way to 99 (using the higher soul weaken spells as you can use them of course).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

everyone over thinks things too much ._.

 

 

or you could have a lot more fun ice bursting in castle wars for 100m less. it would also be way faster than buying all those nats then selling them in that room.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But you can do this all the way from lvl 1 :shock:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no, you can do it from 55 since you need to high alch to enter the room. besides, if you have 200m to spend on mage in the first place 1-70 and desert treasure should be no trouble for you. or screw it and get 66 mage and a mud staff and just vulnerability your way to 99 (using the higher soul weaken spells as you can use them of course).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

everyone over thinks things too much ._.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you dont need to be able to high alch to get into the alchemy room :roll: At least start thinking before overdoing it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, you dont need to go all the way to 99. If you have a smaller goal like 85 mage, the cost is 25% of what I said earlier.

 

 

or you could have a lot more fun ice bursting in castle wars for 100m less. it would also be way faster than buying all those nats then selling them in that room.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But you can do this all the way from lvl 1 :shock:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no, you can do it from 55 since you need to high alch to enter the room. besides, if you have 200m to spend on mage in the first place 1-70 and desert treasure should be no trouble for you. or screw it and get 66 mage and a mud staff and just vulnerability your way to 99 (using the higher soul weaken spells as you can use them of course).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

everyone over thinks things too much ._.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Um, I'm guessing you cant really even confirm if you need 55 mage to enter the room because if you need a mage requirement to enter the alchemy workshop, it'd be LOW ALCHEMY.

 

 

 

or you could have a lot more fun ice bursting in castle wars for 100m less. it would also be way faster than buying all those nats then selling them in that room.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But you can do this all the way from lvl 1 :shock:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no, you can do it from 55 since you need to high alch to enter the room. besides, if you have 200m to spend on mage in the first place 1-70 and desert treasure should be no trouble for you. or screw it and get 66 mage and a mud staff and just vulnerability your way to 99 (using the higher soul weaken spells as you can use them of course).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

everyone over thinks things too much ._.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you dont need to be able to high alch to get into the alchemy room :roll: At least start thinking before overdoing it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, you dont need to go all the way to 99. If you have a smaller goal like 85 mage, the cost is 25% of what I said earlier.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

desi, I would really like to know how this works in a bit more detail. I have bad mage and really want to level fast. Help pl0x? :oops:

more detail (step by step instructions) for those who did not understand the first post:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

assuming money is not an issue here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) Buy some nats at whatever price you are willing to pay for it. Normally 300 gp ea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) Take all your nats and go to the alchemy room in the mage training area.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3) Shout out: "selling nats for 10gp ea "(or 15gp ea or 20 gp ea). Obviously you will have more takers at a lower price.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4) When you get coins in multiples of 100, deposit them at the designated area at the north end of the room.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5) Watch the xp roll in. For every gp you deposit you get 2 mage xp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you have money issues and would instead do the alching ( or do not wish to waste cash on training mage), take a few nats in there. Alch as many items as you can to get 30 gp per nat on each alch and also do the free alchs. Then shout out "buying nats 10gp ea" (or 15gp ea. This time the higher you pay, the more offers you will get. You should end up with at least twice or maybe 3 times the nats you went in with. This way you get mage xp and you get paid for it and you get more nats to keep doing this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you are ready to leave, make sure you dont have any coins on you. Either buy nats for all your coins or deposit the coins in the coin collector at the north end of the room.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you do not understand what I have said, make a pilgrimage to the alching room and see how it works and then read this post again.

Honestly 99 magic is too easy to get via alching and other means that I don't think people would pay 100-200m to do it. Even when charge was popular it wasn't nearly that expensive (at least not from whatever level I calced the costs from before)

Honestly 99 magic is too easy to get via alching and other means that I don't think people would pay 100-200m to do it. Even when charge was popular it wasn't nearly that expensive (at least not from whatever level I calced the costs from before)

 

 

 

But this is the fastest, IF you find sellers or have friends

That's a pretty nice idea you got trhere, but to expensive to bother with. It's not worth it een though it is probably faster than charging to leel up.

you dont need to be able to high alch to get into the alchemy room :roll: At least start thinking before overdoing it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, you dont need to go all the way to 99. If you have a smaller goal like 85 mage, the cost is 25% of what I said earlier.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you're right, its only low alchemy. but its still worse than the other ways I mentioned. 85 mage might only be 25m in there, but its even cheaper and faster with super weakens and ice burst/slayer dart.

... for a merchant/staker with enough resources, this is chump change.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

195m is not "Chump change."

 

 

 

To anybody.

 

you dont need to be able to high alch to get into the alchemy room :roll: At least start thinking before overdoing it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, you dont need to go all the way to 99. If you have a smaller goal like 85 mage, the cost is 25% of what I said earlier.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you're right, its only low alchemy. but its still worse than the other ways I mentioned. 85 mage might only be 25m in there, but its even cheaper and faster with super weakens and ice burst/slayer dart.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Once again, please tell me where you got this information that you need to have low alchemy to get into the alchemy room? If this is your assumption and not a fact, please do not state it as if you know what you are talking about.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The maximum nuber of spells that can be cast in combat per hour is 1.2-1.3k if you keep casting all the time. Even with ice barrage cast every time, and having 9 monsters in just the right location everytime and all of them having enough hp (see how much leeway i'm giving you?), you will be hard pressed to get 400xp per cast on average. Now read the first post and see how you can get more than 400k xp per hour by the method I stated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just to prove my point, I will tell you how you can get 99 mage in under 4 hours for 65M.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) Buy 216.7k nats for around 65M.

 

 

 

2) Get a 100 friends. (not unreasonable. A clan could help out for example)

 

 

 

3) All of you head to the mage training area.

 

 

 

4) Distribute the nats equally between your friends (2.167k per friend for the mathematically impaired)

 

 

 

5) Have each friend alch the 30gp items until they have 65k cash.

 

 

 

6) Get all your friends to trade you the cash.

 

 

 

7) you deposit the cash and get 13M xp for 99 mage. (Go ahead flame me for .05M xp)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The time taken for the 2.17k alchs is under 4 hours.

 

 

 

Result: 99 mage from scratch in 4 hours or less. (85 mage in 1 hour for 16.25M)

 

 

 

Net cost per xp: 5 gp per xp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Taking the theoretical limit for this analysis, if you had 1999 friends and a server to yourself and your little gang, all doing the above procedure, then (ignore lag and server crashes for now) you can get the xp in 3 minutes. Its a different matter that doing all those trades will probably take over an hour or two.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The point is that you can possibly acheive in one day what would normally take several months of playtime by the normal training routes.