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Aye, dungeoneering was created as a safe haven, away from any nukes Jagex might execute. Next they'll be nerfing overloads in dg though :(.

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Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

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I agree with you in the aspect that this update was poorly handled.

I do not, however, think that this update was not well deserved.

 

You should not be able to multi-task combat with things like RC, Agility, Mining, Fishing, etc. Effigies were ridiculously overpowered in the aspect that you can get drops like this -

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A more logical alternative to this update would to remove the bank cap, and instead place a penalty for stocked effigies. Say, if you found an effigy, and either did not have the levels or wanted to stock it for a record, you would have to take a %30 decrease in XP for not having the requirements or choosing to stockpile a massive amount in the attempt to accomplish some record.

 

I can't defend Jagex and their mistakes, but I intend on continuing to play 'Scape for as long as I can. As long I still enjoy playing the game, I will continue to do so (unless closed). I'd think someone like you would do the same.

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I agree with you in the aspect that this update was poorly handled.

I do not, however, think that this update was not well deserved.

 

You should not be able to multi-task combat with things like RC, Agility, Mining, Fishing, etc. Effigies were ridiculously overpowered in the aspect that you can get drops like this -

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A more logical alternative to this update would to remove the bank cap, and instead place a penalty for stocked effigies. Say, if you found an effigy, and either did not have the levels or wanted to stock it for a record, you would have to take a %30 decrease in XP for not having the requirements or choosing to stockpile a massive amount in the attempt to accomplish some record.

 

I can't defend Jagex and their mistakes, but I intend on continuing to play 'Scape for as long as I can. As long I still enjoy playing the game, I will continue to do so (unless closed). I'd think someone like you would do the same.

 

Effigies definitely needed a fix. I should point out however, that a ridiculous drop like that isn't a bad thing - as long as the frequency is low enough. I also have no idea of the frequency of it.

 

Plenty of better fixes. I should point out with yours, that the penalty only works if you have BOTH required skills. Removing the potential for fast exp in a day or something seems stupid, as only fansites track that sort of thing, and after 2 years of effigies it won't make a difference.

 

The popularity of effigies was really a reflection on how boring, or slow, or both, some skills are to train.

 

Also, did Jagex consider removing effigies from the drop tables of mummies and cave crawlers?

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Don't stay away too long, you're like my twin as far as playing RuneScape goes <3:

 

Same goals, pretty similar levels, [ego]both Monster Hunting legends[/ego] :^_^:

 

I'll allow you to take a two week break at the most, but that's it! Seeing as that's how long my vacation is, I think that's fair ;-) . Then we're back to competing for trim. No excuses!

 

Seriously though, hope you come back soon. RuneScape is a sad place without a Mierin :-(

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Logging on to try and beat Kiln now, lol. On one hand it's nice to be able to forget about (Jagex') mistakes, but on the other hand it'd help my case more if I stayed consistent -.-. It also doesn't help that my computer seemingly refuses to run Civ atm.

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99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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Died on wave 30, 822 ranged hit from the Jad there. Was at 4 fps, pretty much expecting that death to come earlier even. Up to wave 30 it's easy at least, used 1 invulnerability crystal cause 4 fps on first Jad (lol).

Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions

99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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NOT GOOD ENOUGH :D

Indeed. I shall try again shortly, for now I'm hunting pengs.

 

After pengs, assists and such I'm 50k to 92 runecrafting.

Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions

99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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I just finished the Fight Kiln in 74 minutes. I didn't even have to withdraw anything from my yak. I think I will use a steel titan instead to push it to 65 - 60 minutes. I make 3,36m gp/h at the Fight Kiln right now. 4,7m gp/h if I can push my speed to 60 minutes.

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Does the steel titan hit full damage on mages?

 

Edit: apparently they do, and you can do the kiln in under an hour.

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99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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Just completed the fight kiln yet again :P 54 minutes, 7,9m gp/hr. It is worth using range on the TokHaar-Mej and TokHaar-Ket-Zek. Use the rocks in the middle as a safespot. I don't recommend using a crossbow, because the attack range on it is too short - you will run away from your safespot. Use a zaryte bow or Karil's crossbow instead. Save your magic crystals until wave 33. Then use all three to speed the last waves up. Use a range crystal on wave 19 and wave 20. Storm the rest. Melee isn't worth it, because it takes too long to run to the monsters and you have to run away from your safespot.

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Why not max everything but rc?

 

While doing that, do assists, and then finish up rc when they release altarless runecrafting

I'm already assisting rc now, if it proves easy to find assists I'll save effigies for agility and maybe go max anyhow. I still need some 200m for craft/smith/con/herb/fletch, can't get that at tds/glacors now (so many things are more efficient now). May have to start Nexing or corping (duo corp good money?).

Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions

99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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Can't find rc assists :(.

 

Got a question (sort of questionnaires):

If you could add a single item effect to a single item, what would it be?

 

Effects are like salve, black mask/hexcrest/focus sight (each separately, but you can make boots replace black mask), hybrid items (both the 3% base damage and counting towards the 15% set boost), void items (each separately but you could make boots count as a void range helm), Barrows items (can make boots replace Dharok's greataxe), ferocious ring bonus, fire cape bonus damage vs. ice strykes, any single teleport (either of the Ardougne 4 teles, cabbageport etc.), any elite diary special effect (Seer's headband light source, Varrock armour double mining/smelting), any bonus xp set effect (gold mining, ibis, master runecrafter), any special weapon effect (Armadyl battlestaff cast speed boost on Storm of Armadyl, hexhunter bow damage boost based on magic statistics, but not the dark bow's double shot). Only permanent effects count, but also on degradeable items (so Barrows is ok, but special attacks, auras or things with charges don't).

 

Not item statistics! Things like weight, attack/defence/strength/prayer bonusus, soak percentages are not item effects (because otherwise everyone would add the maul's strength bonus to comp cape).

 

I'm torn between the void set effect (regular item, not helmet) and cast speed boost from abs. Adding to the completionist cape of course.

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99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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hax

Can't find rc assists :(.

 

Got a question (sort of questionnaires):

If you could add a single item effect to a single item, what would it be?

 

Effects are like salve, black mask/hexcrest/focus sight (each separately, but you can make boots replace black mask), hybrid items (both the 3% base damage and counting towards the 15% set boost), void items (each separately but you could make boots count as a void range helm), Barrows items (can make boots replace Dharok's greataxe), ferocious ring bonus, fire cape bonus damage vs. ice strykes, any single teleport (either of the Ardougne 4 teles, cabbageport etc.), any elite diary special effect (Seer's headband light source, Varrock armour double mining/smelting), any bonus xp set effect (gold mining, ibis, master runecrafter), any special weapon effect (Armadyl battlestaff cast speed boost on Storm of Armadyl, hexhunter bow damage boost based on magic statistics, but not the dark bow's double shot). Only permanent effects count, but also on degradeable items (so Barrows is ok, but special attacks, auras or things with charges don't).

 

I'm torn between the void set effect (regular item, not helmet) and cast speed boost from abs. Adding to the completionist cape of course.

I'd give ragefires a 5% mage damage boost. Make them not totally useless.

 

Also I think my first post here :P Max faster enaid :D

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Akrisae/penance armour set effects to the completionist cape. Probably not Akrisae as that would be pretty powerful. If I remember right penance is 1800 (new) prayer points an hour gained. That's about 5.5 doses of prayer potion. Nothing spectacular but would be nice.

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I'd give ragefires a 5% mage damage boost. Make them not totally useless.

 

Also I think my first post here :P Max faster enaid :D

1) 5% damage boost is not an item effect.

2) Ragefires are cheaper gp/mage attack than Virtus top.

3) Can't find rc assists :(.

 

@ Cow: You'll only get the effects of one penance set item though, so you'd have to wear penance skirt/top/helm/boots and comp cape for the bonus.

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99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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rc assists aren't really that hard to find - you are 92 so using dorgeshkaan to open lvl 93 effigies is feasable. Just do something like agility while offering assists in fast effigy.

 

^Virtus top does more than offer magic attack

 

I'd probably give comp cape magic damage % and ranged str.

 

also, what does your chatbox look like when inspecting comp cape? it has like 50 lines on my pure l0l

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