D. V. Devnull's "IPB Restore 2011" Buglist #1

[D. V. Devnull]

Hi, Tip.It Forum Staff...

 

While I was running the recovery on my account, as well as 'reading'/'posting replies to' a couple of threads, I hit some very odd bugs that could make people question if they're really on Tip.It's Forums. I think I'll just get to business, and list them off here, in the order that I noticed them (with appropriate emote for how much it annoyed me)...

 

1. Missing Favorite Icon <_<
   (Probably not the first priority, but might be a good first-up for a second. Having that customary "Rune Tips" favicon screams "We Are Tip.It!", and not having it there could make some people question if they've come to the right website.)
   
2. Advert During Recovery Process :angry:
   (Okay, this one NEEDS to be a First Priority. It's a good thing I run ABP and have it set to kill BurstNet Ads due to my past bad experiences with them and a 'no ads' house policy on the computers here, or I would have as equally been stuck with a "Not 100% Secure" warning. Removing the Advert during the recovery process is Deadly Critical for making sure people don't stop in their tracks and discontinue attempting to recover because they don't think they've reached the right website and/or don't think they can attain a secure connection for some reason. Which, BTW, if BurstNet is doing any odd peeking they haven't made you aware of, you don't want them to see users' account recovery processes! So get that advert out of those pages already!!!)
   
3. Post Snapback Image Missing :unsure:
   (This one's probably last place for priority. It does help, however, to see those snapback icons because it quickly identifies a quote. Yes, even quicker than the boxing around the quote, in my opinion.)
   
4. RS stat signature missing :(
   (Anything but last priority here. I don't know if you're waiting for the on-server process to re-cache the missing stat data before sigs are properly generated again, or if there's considerable hand-work still to be done yet such as needing re-ups from users for images and such. I can tell you it was pretty disconcerting, however, to see a "MySQL Error" image in-place of my friendly purple stat siggy.)

...and I'll leave it at that for this thread. (I didn't notice any other immediately obvious items, but I'll start a thread for them if needs be.) Feel free to reply or not, but I would at least hope the two most critical of these gets fixed quickly. (PLEASE?) Until then, pardon me while I stick with this worrisome look on my face... :wacko:

 

~Mr. D. V. "Your Friendly Bug Finder on these forums..." Devnull

 

 

 

(p.s.: What became of the "Members+" Group? It was helpful in finding newbies to greet, among other things!)

[tripsis]

I think Peter is probably aware of all of these already.

 

(p.s.: What became of the "Members+" Group? It was helpful in finding newbies to greet, among other things!)

 

We decided we had no use for it and it was creating annoying problems for people anyway. We did say it was likely nothing would come of it.

[D. V. Devnull]

I think Peter is probably aware of all of these already.

Alright, thanks for the heads-up. :thumbsup:

 

 

(p.s.: What became of the "Members+" Group? It was helpful in finding newbies to greet, among other things!)

We decided we had no use for it and it was creating annoying problems for people anyway. We did say it was likely nothing would come of it.

Ah... Oh well, I'll just keep my eyes open for whatever awesome idea pops up next on the forums. :wink:

 

 

~D. V. "Mhm... Alright." Devnull

 

 

 

(p.s.: Thanks for the fast response!)

[Tecmaster]

Peter has just released a patch for stat sigs and they're up and running again now. :)

[MageUK]

Everything is fixed except your "snapback" issue since I don't find any issue? Snapback icons appear for me on every skin, and I've double checked the images exist and aren't just cached, bear in mind they only appear when you actually quote someone, not for every quote, and have always worked that way.

[D. V. Devnull]

Everything is fixed except your "snapback" issue since I don't find any issue? Snapback icons appear for me on every skin, and I've double checked the images exist and aren't just cached, bear in mind they only appear when you actually quote someone, not for every quote, and have always worked that way.

Thanks for the fixes so far! :thumbsup:

 

As for the Post Snapback Issue, I'll direct you to an example of what I'm talking about. Have a look at...

 

"Golden/Holiday Scythe Discussion"

(Location: http://forum.tip.it/topic/303410-goldenholiday-scythe-discussion/)

 

...and notice the linked quote down in the 20th post there of the first page. I see proper snapback images on all the other proper quotes with proper links on that page, but not on that one specific proper quote even though it has a proper link. I'm thinking this is an anomaly-class bug due to how rarely it occurs, but it finally got to me. Heck, I wouldn't be at all surprised if for some unknown reason, it fails to reveal itself to you, and you see the snapback image right where it should be. I've even bypassed my own cache to check. :(

 

As always, I'm not trying to be pushy here. I'm just trying to help fix the bugs. Please fix it at your own speed? |^_^|

 

~D. V. "This is definitely a weird one..." Devnull

[obfuscator]

I fixed it. (just for that post)

[D. V. Devnull]

I fixed it. (just for that post)

Nice fix. :thumbsup:

 

I just wish it didn't have the downside of meaning that Peter doesn't get to see the problem directly. :wall:

 

Ah well, I guess he can ask you for a description of what it looked like? That, or I get to go find another example for his eyes. :blink:

 

~D. V. "Eh... *facedesk* ..." Devnull

[obfuscator]

The image markup wasn't present for whatever reason.

 

So normally, it looks like this:

 

<a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://forum.tip.it/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=5058091'><img src='http://forum.public.cdn.tip.it/public/style_images/runetips3/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>obfuscator, on 18 October 2011 - 06:31 PM, said:</p>

 

It looked like this on that topic:

 

<a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://forum.tip.it/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=5058091'></a>obfuscator, on 18 October 2011 - 06:31 PM, said:</p>

 

No idea what caused it, but editing and re-saving the post fixed it.

[D. V. Devnull]

@ Peter --

 

I just checked #2 (Advert During Recovery Process) and found the advert still trying to load right at the start of the Recovery Process pages on these forums. There should not be an advert during that for security purposes. Pardon me for being paranoid, but I'm thinking about helping keep people's accounts safe, and adverts are not part of the security equation. :huh:

 

~D. V. "Security is key when recovering an account..." Devnull

 

 

 

(EDIT: p.s.: Two days later, and I'm realizing... The adverts shouldn't be on any pass change or login screens period. Basically, anywhere that it goes secure mode, the adverts shouldn't exist and shouldn't try to load. You might want to have a whack at that?)

Edited October 21, 2011 by D_V_Devnull

[Low C]

@ Peter --

 

I just checked #2 (Advert During Recovery Process) and found the advert still trying to load right at the start of the Recovery Process pages on these forums. There should not be an advert during that for security purposes. Pardon me for being paranoid, but I'm thinking about helping keep people's accounts safe, and adverts are not part of the security equation. :huh:

 

~D. V. "Security is key when recovering an account..." Devnull

 

 

 

(EDIT: p.s.: Two days later, and I'm realizing... The adverts shouldn't be on any pass change or login screens period. Basically, anywhere that it goes secure mode, the adverts shouldn't exist and shouldn't try to load. You might want to have a whack at that?)

 

Yep i'd really hate to get keylogged by an advert that has at worst adware loading onto your computer. I'm no expert but i'm sure Peter has more things to do on his list than worry about removing adverts.

[D. V. Devnull]

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Yep i'd really hate to get keylogged by an advert that has at worst adware loading onto your computer. I'm no expert but i'm sure Peter has more things to do on his list than worry about removing adverts.

I'm only talking about removing them from the secure sections of the forums, and only for security and defense purposes. About a mere Eight (this number might be slightly off) pages, I think? BTW, yes, Adware can lead to Keyloggers. All those prying jerks have to do is get something that won't set an AV off in, and then download the rest to your computer. From there, the keylogger part can easily get hold of another Forum Admin's credentials, and then BLAM, Forum.Tip.It is down again. I really don't want that happening again, ever. This last time was a freaking headbanger. :wall:

 

~Mr. D. V. "Pardon me for being a pessimist... We don't need worst-case happening..." Devnull

[Low C]

I understand that but i'm almost certain that they (tip.it) hand picks their ads. I see where you're coming from though I just don't find it as dangerous as you're making it out to be.

[Kimberly]

Bad ads rarely slip through, but when they do, users are very prompt about reporting them for removal. Most of the reports aren't for malicious ones, either. Just goldselling / stupid ads that break the page. But Tip.it does remove bad ads when they're brought to the tech's attention.

[D. V. Devnull]

So, I just landed up with a FireFox browser upgrade shoved in my face by my parents about 24 to 48 hours ago which I had only enough control over to barely avoid some major hiccups. :-|

 

Unluckily, I could not escape one particular hiccup. Due to the BurstNet Advert still trying to load on the login page (and other such security-requiring pages), even though I've got ABP running, FireFox's upgraded version is now being even more of a pain to me by alerting me to non-encypted content and deciding the connection is no longer fully secure. (My guess is that ABP is being delayed on its' defensive filtering, enabling FireFox itself to be more aware of page objects. I'm also now realizing that this is the exact picture I didn't want to see anyone fall head-first into.) :wall:

 

Seeing as I know this would cause worry to less tech-savvy people (heck, it annoys the [beep] outta me), I'm firing off this post to bring the remaining issues on this thread back to the surface. Don't worry, I already understand those who are working on issues like these have lives of their own to live. (Personally, I hope they're having fun too. For some reason, I prefer happy, stress-free Forum Admins attacking issues like these.) I'm only trying to poke in and query as to make sure this hasn't been forgotten. :o

 

I'll look forward to replies to this thread. ;)

 

~Mr. D. V. "Stuck with another bug buzzing in my ear... Any news?" Devnull

[essiw]

So, I just landed up with a FireFox browser upgrade shoved in my face by my parents about 24 to 48 hours ago which I had only enough control over to barely avoid some major hiccups. :-|

 

Unluckily, I could not escape one particular hiccup. Due to the BurstNet Advert still trying to load on the login page (and other such security-requiring pages), even though I've got ABP running, FireFox's upgraded version is now being even more of a pain to me by alerting me to non-encypted content and deciding the connection is no longer fully secure. (My guess is that ABP is being delayed on its' defensive filtering, enabling FireFox itself to be more aware of page objects. I'm also now realizing that this is the exact picture I didn't want to see anyone fall head-first into.) :wall:

 

Seeing as I know this would cause worry to less tech-savvy people (heck, it annoys the [beep] outta me), I'm firing off this post to bring the remaining issues on this thread back to the surface. Don't worry, I already understand those who are working on issues like these have lives of their own to live. (Personally, I hope they're having fun too. For some reason, I prefer happy, stress-free Forum Admins attacking issues like these.) I'm only trying to poke in and query as to make sure this hasn't been forgotten. :o

 

I'll look forward to replies to this thread. ;)

 

~Mr. D. V. "Stuck with another bug buzzing in my ear... Any news?" Devnull

No idea what ABP is, but why are you always at the login-page? You should check the log me in automatically unless you are afraid of parents/siblings login you in. Also if you have problems with the ads you could install a specific ad-blocker to block some adds from showing up (you can select which ones you do not want to show up at some ad-blockers) or if you never click at them you could just use a full ad-blocker (though tip.it would not get any money from the ads then, but seeing as you got problems with them it might as well help).

[D. V. Devnull]

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No idea what ABP is, but why are you always at the login-page? You should check the log me in automatically unless you are afraid of parents/siblings login you in. Also if you have problems with the ads you could install a specific ad-blocker to block some adds from showing up (you can select which ones you do not want to show up at some ad-blockers) or if you never click at them you could just use a full ad-blocker (though tip.it would not get any money from the ads then, but seeing as you got problems with them it might as well help).

First off, there is more than me using the PC at home, so yes I must log in/out when starting/finishing use of Tip.It's Forums Area. Second, ABP = AdBlock Plus (which happens to be an excellent FireFox advert removal extension), and I'm primarily using it because of a "No Adverts" house policy. I do help to keep the PCs here fully secured. (Heck, my parents are more of a security risk than I am!) :geek:

 

At this point, the reason I'm still seeing this problem is because both ABP gets delayed post-FF-upgrade from reacting until FF has seen all the page elements (which there's nothing I can do to change that, BTW), and the Advert is still trying to poke it's ugly head in on pages that are meant to be fully secure. I have done all that I can, and so that's why I've posted back to this thread to get the problem removed from the pages on this site where security is a concern. Just that one non-https request is enough to make FireFox decide to annoy me. :|

 

Pardon me while I buzz off now and wait for someone in Tip.It Forums' Staff to reply. -.-

 

~Mr. D. V. "Already got the advert remover... But it ain't enough." Devnull

[D. V. Devnull]

Looks like the security warning I was seeing around the time of my last post has gone away, albeit I'm noticing the advert still trying to load (and still not loading thanks to the block) in my ABP list. In case it wasn't just a totally random anomaly, I thank all of you who spent time to take care of that. :thumbsup:

 

~D. V. "Thanks for the fix?" Devnull