who cares about f2p players. they don't pay so why should they have any voice in the matter? i pay for my members so i expect 100% access to the game. if you don't pay for the game then you shouldn't even be allowed out of tutorial island. be happy they let you further then that.

 

There is no Tutorial Island!

It does say 80% under the category of "no", but when you remove the people that don't care, it becomes 90%.

...no, that's not how statistics work...

That's how cross tabulating works.

I checked, and I'm pretty sure it's not. If you were taking two questions and showing how they interact, that would be cross tabulating (or at least it might be, depending how you did it). Blatantly ignoring one of the three options on a single question is not that. (If it is, mind explaining? I'd love to learn, honestly; I hadn't heard that term before.)

When I made the statement, I qualified it. "Of the people who care" means of the people who didn't respond "I don't care", which only leaves "Yes" and "No". Statisticians do it all the time in polls, usually their qualifier is "Of likely voters", or "Moderates", etc.

 

Say those that responded yes are 80%, and those that responded no and don't care are 10% each. Then of those that care, (80% + 10% = 90), 88.9% said yes (80 / 90).

who cares about f2p players. they don't pay so why should they have any voice in the matter? i pay for my members so i expect 100% access to the game. if you don't pay for the game then you shouldn't even be allowed out of tutorial island. be happy they let you further then that.

Games are meant for FUN, which I don't think you seem to realise.

who cares about f2p players. they don't pay so why should they have any voice in the matter? i pay for my members so i expect 100% access to the game. if you don't pay for the game then you shouldn't even be allowed out of tutorial island. be happy they let you further then that.

 

I wonder whether you would have become a member had you not first explored the f2p world. You don't have to answer it openly or truthfully (for it's easy to say "I immediately bought a month," just to make a point of it here), but answer it for yourself. You'd be surprised that probably 99,99% of the members community would answer the question just like you: first I explored the f2p community, and only after convincing myself that it was worth it, I bought a month (or more) of members.

So you should care about f2p players. You were one yourself. And we are one community - except when people like yourself try to make it appear as if we were two separate communities. A sentiment Jagex seems to support.

 

I see "divide et impera" at work here.

considering the levels you need to show up in the highscores you would think by the time a f2p member acquired the levels to show up in the highscores they would have "explored" enough of rs to justify spending $5 a month to play the members side of the game. heck, you can see all of the f2p in under a week. if you can't make up your mind if you want to p2p or not, then you clearly aren't playing more than 5 minutes a day and in that case you should care about appearing in the highscores.

 

When I made the statement, I qualified it. "Of the people who care" means of the people who didn't respond "I don't care", which only leaves "Yes" and "No". Statisticians do it all the time in polls, usually their qualifier is "Of likely voters", or "Moderates", etc.

 

Say those that responded yes are 80%, and those that responded no and don't care are 10% each. Then of those that care, (80% + 10% = 90), 88.9% said yes (80 / 90).

 

That makes sense.

 

Still, that leaves the issue that this poll is a self-selected and therefore likely unrepresentative sample of players, voting from a position of relative ignorance.

 

(If you accept the seemingly common assumption that the FAQ was a load of meaningless spin, then we have no real information on why Jagex is doing this. Of course , if you accept the FAQ unquestioningly, then you must accept that their move is popular, since it says so. :P There is obviously a middle ground between those two possibilities, how large it is, that's another question entirely )

I voted how I voted. I can honestly say I do not care if F2P has HS. (And like you have been, Please do not continue to include my vote in the against area because I'm indifferent.) It doesn't bug me in the least and I'm sure Jagex made their choice before they told anyone about it. I don't think they were like 'Errr. Well maybe we'll do it, Lets see what others think'. If so, They would have asked wouldn't have they? One would think so. Is it 100% fair? Probally not but then again what in life is? Also for newcomers it could help in the sense they wouldn't feel so far behind, Bogged down by far less accounts when they decide to try and get ranks on the high scores. Right now over 100k people with 99hp, that does seem a bit much doesn't it? Also new players wouldn't be bothered by the lack of high scores as they never had them. Its the diehard F2Pers who are effected and not really anyone else. Im not too worried about them personally because they CHOOSE to seperate themselves from the rest of the runescape community. Nobody forces them to. To be honest I can't wait for the update to just happen so people can stop fighting about it but if you honestly think this poll will change Jagex's mind, you may as well ragequit now. C-ya in a few weeks. :)