Fury_Arcania Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hello. I have a few Q's about which armor is better or worse comparing to Elite Void.. 1) Is Elite Void Mage set better than full Ahrim? Considering killing metal dragons with 85 magic and Polypore staff. 2) Is Elite Void Melee better than fighter torso + tassets? Considering i have 99 att, 97 str and fighting Vyrelords with Blis. Polearm. 3) Is Elite Void Range better than Arma plate and legs? Considering i have 87 range and fighting the same Vyrelords with Blis. stakes. 4) Is Fighter hat (barb assault reward) better than Neith helm? Im asking since i see alot of corp killers wearing this instead of the Neith helm. Last Q: While fighting Mith drags with magic, is it better to use offensive shield (arcane) or defensive shield (spectral)? Considering im praying range deflect all the time and i get hit by magic only.. I hope the answers will be from an experienced player which used Void sets for a long time to do the math. I just got my sets not long ago so im not sure whats best. THANKS IN ADVANCE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 For miths, if you have soul split, you want mage offense (Virtus, Polypore/SoA, arcane stream and arcane sheild, mage defense doesnt really matter, as a unicorn heal enough to keep you alive. ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury_Arcania Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Thanks for the info. I do have SoulSplit plus Turmoil. but i cant use Unicorn yet.. Virtus is too expensive for me.. so Ahrim still better than Void mage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Ganodermic for Miths, afaik it's better than ahrims, and the defense helps a ton. You should be fine with soul split+ overloads though.Ahrims > Void mage. ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury_Arcania Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Ok I'll see what i can do about Ganodermic.. At least i know that Ahrim > void mage I wont use ovl's but i will use vecna to boost my low mage. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC3 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 1. Ahrim is best, I personally dont feel that ganodermic is neccesary at metals, including miths, since it's easy to soul split back lost hp.2. For most non-slayer things void melee is better, though because of it's low defence bonuses it isn't the best thing to wear everywhere.3. Not sure but I think it's basically the same answer as 2, don't take my word for that though.4. In certain cases I believe fighter hat is worth it over a neitz but in almost all cases the neitz will be better.5. Offensive. No need for the extra defence as long as you can soul split flash fairly effectively. I do fine at miths with pps, ahrims and a zammy book, you definetly will not need a spectral there. I have lots of experience using void, I use my melee set for everything that isnt slayer or gwd/other bosses where you take a lot of damage. In most cases soul split is more than enough to make up for the lack of defence bonuses. Hope I helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paul Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Some corp killers use fighter hat because it offers +5 stab vs the +3 strength of neitznot. But pretty much everywhere else, Neit helm would be better. Working on max and completionist capes. 2435/2475 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Ahrims are better DPS than void mage. You will lose a bit of defense though. I'm not sure if melee void's bonus is applied before or after the invisible damage bonus of the polearm. If it's before, str gear is best. If it's after, void is best. I've never tried this method. If you're very accurate, void is best. If you're very innacurate, arma is best. If they're one handed, void with deflector and replace body with arma body would be the best. Nez is better than fighter hat unless you really need accuracy. Honestly, nez is probably better DPS even on corp beast with defense draining specials everyone uses. The reason everyone uses fighter hat on corp is 1). Because others do. Seriously. No one thinks for themselves these days. 2). Because corp attacks players on a damage system. Basically, hit over a certain amount and corp will focus on you. Fighter lowers your max hit, but still keeps your overall damage pretty similar. Meaning you get hit less without sacrificing too much of your own damage. This is the same reason people use onyx ring over zerker (i). So yeah... Use nez on everything other than extremely high defense, and corp (Unless it's defense lowered FFA, then i definatley recommend nez.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 1) No.2) Torso, tassets, barrows gloves and neitiznot gives you +12 attack +21 strength. Void increases attack and strength bonus by 10% + 6.4. That means that if you have over 146 strength bonus in void, you should use it over strength-boosting gear. Over 56 attack bonus shouldn't be terribly hard to come by. I don't know how the polearm works, so it's very possible Bandos is better.3) Yes. Void ranged with deflector and ranged top is always better than even Pernix chaps/coif, swift gloves and unholy book. For two-handed weapons that might be different, but stakes are one-handed I think.4) It's only better if you have ~51% or less accuracy with the fighter hat.5) Arcane is better than spectral, Virtus is better than ganodermic (not sure about Ahrim's), all other items have equal magic attack and defence I think? Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury_Arcania Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 U guys helped me alot!! So here r my conclusions: 1) I will get myself a new Ahrim set along with my Arcane shield for maging the miths. 2) I will stick with my void melee since i dont need the str bonus from bandos and torso. 3) When i'll range vyrelords, i will use my void range without a deflector since it uses charges and i hate playing this game for getting more rank\commendations, plus stakes r 1h only so i can use my damaged book for prayer bonus (cant fill it with pages atm sadly). 4) I never do corp\gwd\any other bosses so its irrelevant for me to get the fighter hat while i have the void melee set. Whenever i cant use void, i'll take my Neith. helm. 5) I alrdy have Arcane shield so i'll keep that while maging miths or just maging monkey skeletons in Marim dungeon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Void range w/ deflector has charges? :unsure: Pretty sure I'm confused here. ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 The Deflector doesn't use charges. I think he's mistaken. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury_Arcania Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Oh sorry.. i really thought that the deflector degrades doring combat. seems to be that i need to get this 1 too now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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