The Back Room

[Ieyfura]

If Lynx doesn't have anything worth feeling that way over, then just ignore her. If she does, don't. Idk what the situation is, nor is it my business, but those are the basic guidelines for dealing with those kinda people.

[Leiana]

I'm sorry. DE is canceled until further notice. Cyber World is cancelled until further notice.

[archimage_a]

Mather-Lynx:

 

 

 

 

Mather, don't ever say anything to Lynx ever again.

Lynx, don't say anything to Mather ever again.

That should fix your friendship, since it seems whenever you say anything to each other you blow it apart. Just enjoy each other's company.

[Leiana]

Archi, he'll never forgive me. He was the last true friend who could understand how I felt and I could talk to without being told no. He was among the few I looked up to. Now I'm stuck waiting for the begining of school for the two other people who can understand and praying I don't have a break down when the first day of school arrives.

 

Mather will never forgive me. End of Story.

 

The smile of the heavanly and beautiful oak tree has vanished, now it is only a tree to be forgotten.

[The_Mather1]

Archi, that wouldn't work the way you think, sure she's annoying but I don't hate her and she doesn't hate me. The thing that's bad is that I have to argue with her every single day to keep her from killing herself.

 

Lynx, try unblocking me from messenger and you might just get the last message I sent you.

[archimage_a]

You really don't.

A) If she is going to kill herself then she is going to kill herself.

There is nothing you can do, short of flying to her house, strapping her down and feeding her non-poision for the rest of her natural life. All you are doing is feeding a need for attention (Which may be justified, everyone needs attention sometimes) and delaying the innevitable.

 

B) If she isn't going to kill herself, then she isn't going to kill herself...

Then all you are doing is feeding the part of her that wants to kill herself, since she is looking for arguments to kill herself, and buy arguing with you she is more suited to thinking of those arguments than if she was on her own.

 

C) Sometimes you should just let things be.

The path to hell is paved with good intentions. Even if you don't end up causing her to kill herself you are doing serious mental damage by trying to help her.

 

 

 

I know, I have had this twice before in my life.

You try helping, then you discover that helping isn't helping, you feel helpless, struggling to fix the problem, until you eventually conceed defeat in a massive argument with that person and you never speak to each other again.

Then, two years later you are talking to someone and it turns out their life improved on its own accord...Or they killed themselves, you feel a little bad, eventually reconciling that there was nothing you could have done differently and coming to terms with the fact that you didn't kill them, they killed them.

 

 

 

 

Lynx, I understand what you are going through (on a conceptal level, not the details of your specific problem), and you just need to keep making choices.

I am not going to recommend killing yourself, but it is a choice that you should reasonably consider.

If you are ready to die then you are ready, and no amount of help in the world will save you.

If you think you are ready but when it comes to it you find you aren't ready, then you one of two things happen.

First, you may feel terrible that you can't even kill yourself.

Second, you may feel better about yourself because it turns out, even now, thinks aren't actually as bad as they could be.

 

End of the day, the choice is yours, and you need to keep making it, or surrender.

And generally speaking, if more than a month has passed of constantly talking to one person and your mood hasn't actually improved, then you need to stop talking to that person. All you are doing is feeding the desire to kill yourself, and they aren't actually helping you.

If they are helping you then you don't want to kill yourself and the whole issue is irrelevant.

[The_Mather1]

I actually have made some progress, and she admits it during the short time when she's not plagued by these mood swings of hers.

What you said there is true, but there's an option D: Actually helping.

[Leiana]

I won't kill myself. But I ask of everyone to just forget and unfriend me. I guess I can no longer call the Tavern a second home. Oh, and Mather's best record was 1 week. He got me to go 1 whole week without having a breakdown. (So: HA!)

[Nexaduro]

Okay, I'm confused again. Why do you think we all hate you, all of a sudden?

[Leiana]

No, I have a feeling ya'll don't hate me, but it's probably best if I was forgotten and unfriended.

 

Besides, the Lone Wolf is supposed to be alone, right?

[Nexaduro]

Damned Shift-Delete ruining my posts...

 

I had some eloquent and well-phrased response to that, but I can't remember now. Something about hunting you down and making you listen to classical music if you left, so you'd become either calm or bored enough to come back. And something about accepting friends where you can. Dangit I always lose the best of my posts. <_<

[The_Mather1]

Nex, ctrl+Z works in browsers as well as text editors.

[Leiana]

Nex, I don't mind classical music. I believe it is among the most popular music type choices for professional and Olympic iceskaters :P So nine times out of ten you'll see me trying to put a routine to the classical music. One last performance before I stop doing the one sport I love the most :)

 

And as for accepting friends wherever I can, well, as true as that may be, alot of people end up regretting being my friend (pretty sure Mather is one of them)

[Alg]

And as for accepting friends wherever I can, well, as true as that may be, alot of people end up regretting being my friend (pretty sure Mather is one of them)

Mather, I think, is trying to help you get through this. Not quite what someone who regrets his friendship would do :razz:

 

Was going to comment on your 'lone wolf' statement, but it took too long to word out. If you have a paperback copy of "A Game of Thrones" (You did mention that you were reading it) look near the bottom of page 222. Very relevant quote from Eddard :razz:

[archimage_a]

What you said there is true, but there's an option D: Actually helping.

Perfectly possible.

But there is only so much you can do, and generally, when you get to the point where you ask other people to take over, you aren't helping any more, and will only end up resenting Lynx for it, and Lynx will pick up on your aggression, which puts her into a downwards spiral....Things that have already happened.

 

 

And Nex, Lynx simply wants people to hate her because she has identified that she makes people unhappy.

Ergo, rather than saying 'People like me' she says 'People hate me', people get upset that they are being cast incorrectly, the upset ferments into anger, the anger leads to hate...Hate leads to suffering....

 

Or that is the theory anyway.

[Leiana]

Wow Mask.......that is relevant. Weird...... New favorite book quote.... "When the snows fall and the white wind blows, the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives." This is really relevant! I became a member in December, which is in the winter season. So next winter I either leave the tavern, feeling alone and "die", or I stay with the tavern and feel accepted.... I've got some decisions to make.

 

Wow Archi really doesn't like me at the moment....

 

ANYBODY KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED WHEN SOMEONE GOES THROUGH LOTS OF MOODSWINGS DAILY?

I think it's skitsophrenia (however it's spelt) but I'm no doctor....I could ask Rayna but she's a fictional character.

[The_Mather1]

"Schizophrenia is a mental disorder characterized by a disintegration of thought processes and of emotional responsiveness. It most commonly manifests as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking, and it is accompanied by significant social or occupational dysfunction. The onset of symptoms typically occurs in young adulthood,"

 

It does not cause mood swings directly but is a possible cause. If you mean the disorder that causes only mood swings then you're talking about bipolarity.

[Leiana]

? I thought bipolars are afraid of going outside?

[The_Mather1]

That's agoraphobics.

[Leiana]

*sigh* I am definatly going to have a talk with my nurse practitioner about whatever problem I have. I'm the only one who doesn't get a doctor.

 

Wait a cottin pickin minute......Come to think of it.....my brain problem wasn't that bad until my dad got the surgery.... hrm.....post tramua problems??????? Though my dad's surgery was two years ago.

[Resistance]

Arch did you get the message I sent to you a month ago?

[Retech]

Self diagnosis isn't actually that reliable.

 

On a slightly related note, I have attained the secret to unlimited power. UNLIMITED POWER!

[Alg]

Self diagnosis isn't actually that reliable.

Probably a tiny bit more reliable than a diagnosis from a handful of teenagers/young adults/etc on the internet.

 

Do share :twisted:

[Retech]

Through liberal use of shift-alt to change language modes from German (German) to British (US International) and pasting small bits of papers labled with the locations of various important German characters on my keyboard, I can type German characters without memorizing annoying alt-codes or switching keyboards.

 

üöäß

 

Mwahahahaha

[Resistance]

¡Thāt ŵås ñëvēr â prøblém fôr mê!