razzzzzza Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 So the kill count for just the brothers or the brothers and any other monster in the passage? I would just like to know thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melter Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Hmm... so that means that kill count does help, but not all that much (read of the guy that got the 10k kill count twice!). And you can't say that it has no effect because it does for absolute sure give you the opportunity to get you the chance to get bolt racks. But yeah, I've always started doing the 20-30 kc thing around when I hit my double luck streak, so I also agree with these facts. :) there should be a good balance of KQ and time. If you take too long, you will not get an item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevester77 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Beware Type 2 error! Don't accept [garden tool] when false!!! My clicking skills are far below average. . Study's have show that there is a significant correlation to conclude that when one learns cabbage picking patterns (and practising them), their mean clicking lvl goes up. Aww, no one got my AP stat jokes :( . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Koala Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 i'm 1 of the most lucky barrow trippers :) did 28 trips now and i got: Guthan pl8 2x Guthan helm 1x Verac helm 1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urza1488 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Beware Type 2 error! Don't accept garden tool when false!!! My clicking skills are far below average. . Study's have show that there is a significant correlation to conclude that when one learns cabbage picking patterns (and practising them), their mean clicking lvl goes up. Aww, no one got my AP stat jokes :( . When you apply the Chi-Squared analysis you find that the correlation does not add up to a standard gaussian distribution, but is more like a Maxwellian velocity distribution. :arrow: :arrow: Urza. The One. The Legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatkid Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I have gone 110 trip with 10 kill count and still have yet to get my first item :cry: I guess I'll start trying 20 KC :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifier6 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 When you apply the Chi-Squared analysis you find that the correlation does not add up to a standard gaussian distribution, but is more like a Maxwellian velocity distribution. :arrow: :arrow: and you factor in the binomial distributon of the 6 barrows brothers and their equally likely barrow drops you can determine that their is samply variability in your xbar and phat, which will lead to problems when making representative histograms to display your data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddawn509 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 sooooo..i was making a mistake not killing any monsters except the brothers? DOH! :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddfaery2 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 sooooo..i was making a mistake not killing any monsters except the brothers? DOH! :oops: probably not Proud to have gotten 1800 skill total before access to fishing guild Why make a house when you can rob one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksimon Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Im working on a logg right now. Higher kill count helps alot, and It doesnt bother me much as i use guthan in tunnels. Im on a 1:7 item to chest ratio streak right now I randomly get btween 30 and 60 kills each time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel_tide Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 i got 50- 60 kc per trip and did about 80 trips (killing all brothers of course), only got 1 item 118+ combat1730+ total85 slayer95 mage94 range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evrae Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 When you apply the Chi-Squared analysis you find that the correlation does not add up to a standard gaussian distribution, but is more like a Maxwellian velocity distribution. :arrow: :arrow: and you factor in the binomial distributon of the 6 barrows brothers and their equally likely barrow drops you can determine that their is samply variability in your xbar and phat, which will lead to problems when making representative histograms to display your data lol - good gibberish I have to get practically naked when I'm cooking bacon.I may be immature, but that made me laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifier6 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 lol nice spam, and it should actually make some sense if u have taken stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornl337 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 sorry bro, but i doubt it was nothing more than luck on your half i've gotten 8,000 kill count before got from 80 defense to 84 defense want to know what i got? 120 bloods and about 3k coins =S and i've done about 4,000 trips over 160 items recieved from chest and i see no difference in the kill count from 13 and up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biabf Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 sorry bro, but i doubt it was nothing more than luck on your half i've gotten 8,000 kill count before got from 80 defense to 84 defense want to know what i got? 120 bloods and about 3k coins =S and i've done about 4,000 trips over 160 items recieved from chest and i see no difference in the kill count from 13 and up Yeah sure... :roll: Intresting evidence Leesters I think ill start getting higher KC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evrae Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 lol nice spam, and it should actually make some sense if u have taken stats Stats to what level? i have a GCSE in it, and an A level module. Are you trying to say it wasn't gibberish? Thats a worrying thought! I have to get practically naked when I'm cooking bacon.I may be immature, but that made me laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifier6 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 yea it wasnt giberish because the termonology used all related to each other part of termonology, just the part with the 6 barrows bros was put in there for no reason btw we dont have GCSE A level where I am from we have AP, I am guessing you are british? I took stats last year and scored a 5 on my exam which is mastery of subject so i know what I am talking about when I do perform statistics, but there being little data given I just jumbled up a bunch of random stuff, and the problem is with this whole study lessters is doing is that he does not know the actual population proportion...since jagex hasnt released it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leesters Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 The only problem with this info is that your gains from the chest are based on a random number generator. If Jagex doesn't use kill count as a factor in their random number generator (other than you must kill the 6 brothers at least), then it IS just coincidence... Well, statistically speaking, its a significant difference with the sample sizes and the result differential. Since Jagex says that they use the kill count to affect the RNG on the runes and stuff, I'm betting they use it on the barrows items too. The numbers I have are whats called a "significant difference" when comparing "luck" issues. When you take Statistics 101, you'll get it. A circus in Runescape?? Oh my. REMEMBER RUNESCAPE KARMA! Be a nice player, and nice things will come back to you.I'm back, add me if you deleted me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3P0int0 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I've know next to nothing about statistics but I've got some supplies to do about 120 trips. I'm going to try to get 25 kc everytime. Has anyone come up with a good question that would encompas all that we seek to know from Jagex regarding kc and its affects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leesters Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 I've know next to nothing about statistics but I've got some supplies to do about 120 trips. I'm going to try to get 25 kc everytime. Has anyone come up with a good question that would encompas all that we seek to know from Jagex regarding kc and its affects? We have asked, but not recently. Rumor has it, recently that have new answers. I'd like to see the new answers. The old answer was: The kill count helps you get better runes from the chest, but we cannot confirm if it helps you get a barrows equipment item. (I'd deleting the "adventure" "strange new land" jagex cust support lingo, ie, I'm parapraphasing) Has anyone sent in a new kill count querry? If so, please post results. A circus in Runescape?? Oh my. REMEMBER RUNESCAPE KARMA! Be a nice player, and nice things will come back to you.I'm back, add me if you deleted me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exovion Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 sorry bro, but i doubt it was nothing more than luck on your half i've gotten 8,000 kill count before got from 80 defense to 84 defense want to know what i got? 120 bloods and about 3k coins =S and i've done about 4,000 trips over 160 items recieved from chest and i see no difference in the kill count from 13 and up So your telling me you've done on average 13 trips every day since May 9, 2005! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical_Food Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 i get 20 kc and took me 91 trips to get verac helm and now 34 trips since an item :\ You have to kill all six brothers. If you do this, and what you speak is FACT, then you're going through a dry spell. If you go enough (125 trips is not enough to draw conclusions) the numbers will work out in your favor. Its not luck, folks. Its just statistics. The more ya go... yada yada yada. (what you said to me on page one) I kill all 6 six brothers. My first trip I got a dharok helm, then i have never gotten an item after doing 30+ trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifier6 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 just got a support query back from jagex. KC DOES NOT help you get better items with the excepiton of killing the barrows bros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath_at_UK Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 That's what they say but then why have it at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razzzzzza Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Is it only if you kill more borthers or anything in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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