bhim Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'm one of those people who loves numbers and knowing how much exp in an hour I can get. Last night, just for fun I was recording my experience gains by the hour doing the quick hopping method, and today after the nerf I've recorded every hour I've played as well. It would be great if people could record the amount of exp they gain per hour at different tiers so that we can compile a list of averages and get a better idea of what types of exp rates we should be getting per hour. I'll compile all the numbers and put them in the OP here. When you report, please name the following:- Tier you are at (if T6 or T8 make sure you mention whether it is before or after 55/75, as the additional energy earned after these levels may prove to make a difference)- Any oddities, such as the glitch that doesn't let you harvest enriched memories from normal springs, or if you fit more than 3 enriched springs into your hour by quick hopping or taking a break, etc. In general, an hour's log should consist of only 3 enriched spring resets (resets occur at :00, :20, and :40)- How much experience you earned during the hour (doesn't have to be exact, but to the thousand would be great; please don't spitball though)- What method you used (always option 2, sometimes option 3, etc)- Any additional comments. I train by using the 3rd option every time I deposit, which usually means that about half of my memories earn me enhanced exp, and the other half become second option exp. If you use a different method (only option 2, or you've bought energy and always get option 3 exp), please mention that in your report. I hope you all will join me in this endeavor, it shouldn't be more difficult than recording your starting exp and ending after the hour, so hopefully others will help out. Also, if you used the qh method pre-nerf, feel free to report your exp for that as well. At T7, I was earning ~41k/hr, and at T8 approximately 50k/hr, but it is very possible that I was training inefficiently as my post-nerf rates are not much worse. Anyway, sorry about the essay, onto the rates: MIne were, for T8:-Hour 1: 47k-Hour 2: 47k-Hour 3: 49k (hit level 75 during this hour)-Hour 4: 49k-Hour 5: 49k-Hour 6: 50k (took a half hour break this hour, so got a fourth enriched spring)-Hour 7: 52k-Hour 8: 50k-Average: ~49k/hr OVERALL T8 (70-79): ~49k/hr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flabberwocky Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Enriched energy from normal springs is not a glitch. You are supposed to receive some of them from regular springs as you level within each tier, with the amount increasing as you level within them. Edit: Just wanted to add that this thread is a good idea. I'll try and contribute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 At levels ending in 1 and 2 (51,52,61,62...) you receive enriched at a dramatically reduced rate best drops (reasonably accurate/up to date): 1x Elysian Sigil (LS), 1x Arcane Sigil (cs), 4x Armadyl Hilt (solo at 100m, 100m, 50m, and 5m), 2x Saradomin Hilt (solo at 25m), 5x Draconic Visage (34m,1.2m,1.2m) and various cs/ls/ffa Nex splits. Drygore Drops: 7 Longswords, 3 Maces, 3 Rapiers, 3 Off-hand Rapiers, 5 Off-hand Maces, 3 Off-hand LongswordsROTS Shields: 12 Seismics: 16Ascension Crossbows: 6 Spider Legs: 10Countless Armadyl armour pieces, Saradomin amulets, Dragon Hatchets, and Fremenik Rings.Range~Herblore~Construction~Constitution~Defence~Farming~Magic~Attack~Prayer~Strength~Summoning~Slayer~Mining~Dungeoneering~Firemaking~Agility~Magic Mastery~Summoning Mastery~Cooking~Smithing~Fletching~Thieving~Hunter~Woodcutting~Fishing~Runecrafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhim Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'm referring to the glitch (it might not be a glitch but it doesn't seem like it can be just bad luck) by which a player may go dozens of inventories (the few times it happened to me it was around 15 or more inventories before I'd get frustrated and stop playing for a while, but I imagine it can go on for several minutes, maybe hours) without harvesting a single enriched memory from a normal wisp. Most people that reported it were getting enriched memories before at a presumably normal rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'm referring to the glitch (it might not be a glitch but it doesn't seem like it can be just bad luck) by which a player may go dozens of inventories (the few times it happened to me it was around 15 or more inventories before I'd get frustrated and stop playing for a while, but I imagine it can go on for several minutes, maybe hours) without harvesting a single enriched memory from a normal wisp. Most people that reported it were getting enriched memories before at a presumably normal rate. That is the same glitch as Yuj is talking about.... Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 "- Tier you are at (if T6 or T8 make sure you mention whether it is before or after 55/75, as the additional energy earned after these levels may prove to make a difference)" What is this even meant to be referring too? There's nothing special or unique about T6 or T8 or level 55 and 75.The only unique ones are T9-12 as they occur at lvl 80, 85, 90 and 95. Also surely it is important part of the report to say which option was used when depositing? Seeing as option 1 wipes off like 95% of the xp, option 2 is 'normal' and option 3 gives like 15% more xp; regardless of if they used option 3 like you did. And yeah Yuj etc have the glitch right as it stands the first level of a tier is giving faaar more enriched than it should whilst 2nd and 3rd levels are giving next to nothing before the 4th level finally gets back to the normal rate. Jmods have recognised this glitch and are working on it. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddish DIY Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 "- Tier you are at (if T6 or T8 make sure you mention whether it is before or after 55/75, as the additional energy earned after these levels may prove to make a difference)" What is this even meant to be referring too?At level 55 onwards you gain 2 energys per harvest opposed to 1. At 75 this increases to 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhim Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 didn't see yuj's post until after I had made mine; i was responding to flabberwocky. sorry for the confusion. Also surely it is important part of the report to say which option was used when depositing? Seeing as option 1 wipes off like 95% of the xp, option 2 is 'normal' and option 3 gives like 15% more xp; regardless of if they used option 3 like you did. I did mention that as well, in the sentence after I made the list. I'll mention it in the list too in case anyone just skims the topic over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Please also report if you did with or without energies =3! I tracked 1h at level 75 and I got 40k/h aprox w/o energies... Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffery Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Tier 9 is 51k xp an hour without energy and on T8 I wasn't getting anywhere near 49k xp an hour unless I was QHing 180th to 99 Divination + 1st W36er Rambo, cannot pk call your friends bro :). Wait nevermind none of SAPK/PKS can. Kappa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I timed another hour at 76 and got aprox 50k that hour without the use of energy ;D! Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhim Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 Tier 9 is 51k xp an hour without energy and on T8 I wasn't getting anywhere near 49k xp an hour unless I was QHing Do you have more specific numbers for non-qh T8 rates? I was honestly very very surprised that I was achieving similar experience post-nerf. Also 51k/hr w/o energy seems about right. Based on very crude math using my 49k figure, experience at 80+ using energy half the time should be about 54k/hr so that seems reasonable. I timed another hour at 76 and got aprox 50k that hour without the use of energy ;D! That's very interesting. Is there anything you're doing that's different than how I said I've been training? I'm interested to see how much you get with energy, perhaps I haven't been training optimally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Tier 9 is 51k xp an hour without energy and on T8 I wasn't getting anywhere near 49k xp an hour unless I was QHing Do you have more specific numbers for non-qh T8 rates? I was honestly very very surprised that I was achieving similar experience post-nerf. Also 51k/hr w/o energy seems about right. Based on very crude math using my 49k figure, experience at 80+ using energy half the time should be about 54k/hr so that seems reasonable. I timed another hour at 76 and got aprox 50k that hour without the use of energy ;D! That's very interesting. Is there anything you're doing that's different than how I said I've been training? I'm interested to see how much you get with energy, perhaps I haven't been training optimally. Meh, all I can think of is that I managed to get more chronicles in a shorter time. Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffery Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 My advice to people at T9 do NOT grab chron unless you need the xp for hunt. I've notice I'm getting 55k xp an hour without energy now. which is an increase of 4k xp per hour :P (Also 81-84 I noticed I was getting around 4 enrich an invent on average) 180th to 99 Divination + 1st W36er Rambo, cannot pk call your friends bro :). Wait nevermind none of SAPK/PKS can. Kappa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NukeMarine Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 TL:DR - Level 52 with boon, energy+memory, enriched wells: 26,840 xp/hour At level 52 with Boon here's my research based on 10 rounds (used stopwatch, tracked lap time, noted if enriched popped up each round, saved energy for total after 10 rounds) Energy (En): 6 xpMemory (M): 20.9 xpEnergy Memory (EnM): +5.1 xp / 5 energyEnriched Memory (XM): +26.9 xp (20.9 turn in + 6 gathering) 26 slots took on average 2 min 00 secs to fill and deposit.Each round nets 37.8 energy on average.Each round nets 1 enriched memory on average (+20.9 xp) Formula: (M*20.9 xp + E*6 xp + EnM/5*5.1 xp + XM*26.9 xp) * (60 min/ min per round)Calculating: (26 * 20.9xp + 37.8 * 6xp + 37.8 / 5 * 5.1xp + 1*26.9xp) * (60/2) =835.7 xp round or 25,070 xp/hour If you catch an enriched well, expect about 20 enriched memories (+20.9) and 29 energy bonus (+6 xp) which adds 592 xp every 20 minutes. Edit: Just did the same at Level 53, no change in numbers. In addition, if you go after chronicles, consider if your turn around time to turn them in is worth it. If not, consider collecting them for hunter xp and destroying all 10 when you get that many to keep collecting. Learn how to Learn Japanese on your own - Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners in JapaneseStop Forgetting Stuff for College and Life - Anki - a program which makes remembering things easyReach Elite Fitness - CrossFit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 To be honest I know only of 2 locations where it isn't worth it to collect Chronicles and turn them in.These locations are South of Sophanem and Dragontooth Island. All other locations have a relative swift return possibility: Level 1 spot: Amulet of Glory -> Teleport to Draynor -> run to site.Level 10 spot: Falador Teleport Tablet -> Falador square -> Run to site.Level 20 spot: Two options here: Ardougne cloak tele -> Run to site [or] talk to the druid -> tele to automaton room -> exit at cracked door -> run to site.Level 30 spot: Digistie pendant -> run to site.Level 40 spot: Tokkul-Zo -> Run to fairy ring -> Zanaris -> Slayer cave -> at site.Level 50 spot: Tokkul-Zo -> Run to fairy ring -> Zanaris -> South of tai bwo wannai -> run to site [or] Graak teleport -> run to site.Level 60 spot: Duel ring to Mobilising armies tele -> at site.Level 70 spot: Slayer ring -> Slayer tower -> Run to site.Level 80 spot: Tokkul-Zo -> run to fairy ring -> Polypore Dungeon -> Run to site.Level 95 spot: Tokkul-Zo etc... Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scherzo Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 To be honest I know only of 2 locations where it isn't worth it to collect Chronicles and turn them in.These locations are South of Sophanem and Dragontooth Island. All other locations have a relative swift return possibility: Level 1 spot: Amulet of Glory -> Teleport to Draynor -> run to site.Level 10 spot: Falador Teleport Tablet -> Falador square -> Run to site.Level 20 spot: Two options here: Ardougne cloak tele -> Run to site [or] talk to the druid -> tele to automaton room -> exit at cracked door -> run to site.Level 30 spot: Digistie pendant -> run to site.Level 40 spot: Tokkul-Zo -> Run to fairy ring -> Zanaris -> Slayer cave -> at site.Level 50 spot: Tokkul-Zo -> Run to fairy ring -> Zanaris -> South of tai bwo wannai -> run to site [or] Graak teleport -> run to site.Level 60 spot: Duel ring to Mobilising armies tele -> at site.Level 70 spot: Slayer ring -> Slayer tower -> Run to site.Level 80 spot: Tokkul-Zo -> run to fairy ring -> Polypore Dungeon -> Run to site.Level 95 spot: Tokkul-Zo etc... Level 40: Slayer ring -> Slayer cavesLevel 50: I'm not sure this one is worth it unless you use nature altar tablets, or for just a few times/day with wicked hood -> nature altar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Oddish mentioned that ectophial was good enough for the level 85 spot. You could also conceivably do Khazard tele -> charter to Phasmatys -> boat to Dragontooth, but that costs I think 3k or something. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffery Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 There's a debate wither it's worth handing in the fragments or not. Most people on HLF came to the conclusion that doing it past 80 was pointless. By the time you've caught them (providing other people are attempting to catch them as well) It's not worth it unless you know you've got the best PID. The xp @ 80+ is enough to cover the travel time, which is why it's only worth catching them if you need hunter xp, which I found destroying was more efficient than handing them in. 180th to 99 Divination + 1st W36er Rambo, cannot pk call your friends bro :). Wait nevermind none of SAPK/PKS can. Kappa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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