Dachef Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 hey there so i just got back to rs and saw a few changes :D i used to melee and cannon wyverns quite well, but now this somehow seems to be impossible. they multi-attack me and soulsplit seems to heal less than it did in rs2. whats the way to kill them nowadays? its a slayer-tasks, so i use the slayer helm and c rapier (dont have cls yet).. any help would be appreciated! thx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 It might still be possible to outrange their ice breath with a chaotic staff, eliminating the need for a shield. Use Torment+Soul Split+Overloads and Fire Surge with your slayer helm and you should be able to dispatch them quickly.Ensure you stay at your staff's maximum distance, if a wyvern gets you with ice breath then use Escape to jump back. This is a good video on how to kill them for slayer: In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dachef Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 dont have a c staff either :( melee isn't an option anymore? the vid looks good though! thx. will def. try it once i have a staff (which is not my first prio, i have to admit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 The problem with melee is you can't dual wield or use a 2h there as you're stuck with a shield and thus lose a ton of dps. Using a staff allows you to skip the shield because their ice breath doesn't have the range to hit you. Plus with magic you get t9 damage assuming you don't have the cash for other t9 weapons. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Magic won't get you t90 damage anymore, unless the fix Jagex advertised in the patch notes is bugged. But you can still use an abs for t77 damage and accuracy, which may be better than t90 one-handed. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dachef Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 ok you guy lost me when you started talking about the t*..!? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 T[x] refers to the level required for a certain weapon, it's short for 'tier'. Higher is better and virtually nothing else matters, weapon-wise. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dachef Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 the different weapons still have different stats though, right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 No. A level 80 weapon deals level 80 damage. The only other statistic you need to be concerned about is the damage type. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dachef Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 urgh... how uncool!!! :(soooo.. i guess rapier doesn't work on wyverns anymore, hm? ^^ oh and an off-topic question: whats a good cheap weapon setup now with that offhand thingy? like c-rapier and what in the second hand? (and weapon specials have been removed too, right? for example the healing of an (e) excalibur) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 A bunch of weapons have special effects. These are the godswords and enhanced Excalibur. So Excalibur does still heal a small amount. The biggest problem is that specials don't work with abilities, for example the Barrows set effects. A good cheap off-hand weapon is the off-hand chaotic claw. It costs 100k tokens and an off-hand dragon claw (under 500k). Rapier still works on wyverns, as well as it ever did, it's just that with a shield you lose a lot of damage output. In the current system, shields can't boost damage, and mh + oh is 1.5x the damage of just mh. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 The biggest problem is that specials don't work with abilities, for example the Barrows set effects.Barrows set effects work with abilities. But it is true that Enhanced excalibur's effect only works with autoattacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Does Guthan's work with abilities? I didn't get the animation when I last tried, and Dharok's doesn't boost ability damage, as far as I know (also what the wiki claims). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I can assure you that guthans works with abilities, however dharoks only works on auto attacks making it neigh useless I can't say I've actually tried out dharoks, but I've use guthans and it does work with abilities. 5k heals with soul split + double vamp is.... delicious 1 Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dachef Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 what do you mean it only works with "auto attacks"? how do i use EE then? thanks for your help guys btw: is it a good idea to use c rapier and EE offhand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBearBlue Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 what do you mean it only works with "auto attacks"? how do i use EE then? thanks for your help guys btw: is it a good idea to use c rapier and EE offhand? Auto-attacks are the old way of combat, which is click and wait. It's the first attack you deal to a monster (unless you queried an ability) and the attacks that happen inbetween you using abilities. The only way EE heals is with that. And the EE has t72 damage, which means it deals as much damage as a level 72 weapon. Given your stats the EE is not a good offhand for you. An offhand chaotic claw as Quyneax mentioned is good. Better is any offhand drygore weapon. "Goals dont have a deadline." -xxxgod quoting Lady Shahdie [slayer "Essentials"][click pic for main blog][click quote for mini blog][Worthwhile Auras] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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