Jump to content

Welcome to Rune Tips, the first ever RuneScape help site. We aim to offer skill guides, quest guides, maps, calculators, informative databases, tips, and much more to help you get the most from the Massive Online Adventure Game, RuneScape, by Jagex Ltd © 2009.

Report Ad

Welcome to Forum.Tip.It
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!
Photo

Ascension mainhand + offhand chaotic vs. royal crossbow


  • Please log in to reply
11 replies to this topic

#1
Scherzo
[ Display Name History ]

Scherzo

    Unicorn Horn

  • Members
  • 183 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Norway
  • Joined:9 November 2011
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Scherzo
  • RSN2:Arnie Arnie

Hey, I'm going to upgrade to ascension crossbows, but I only have the money for the mainhand atm. 
I assume it's better to use a combination of asc and offhand, but I'm asking just to be sure.

 

Can i use Asc bolts when my offhand is chaotic, or would I be better off using dragonbane? If i recall correctly, dragonbane bolts are better than royal but worse than asc bolts at QBD.

 

Hope you can help :)



#2
chenw
[ Display Name History ]

chenw

    Ice Giant Melter

  • Members
  • 4,953 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Putting the Fiyr on the Pyre
  • Joined:24 July 2004
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Tim ChenW2

For the first part: you should use Asc bolts. Your Chaotic Xbow can still use the bolts, but it will only inflict as much damage as royal bolts.

 

For the second part: last time I tried it, Dragonbane is very good at QBD (it basically makes you hit QBD all the time), however your off hand should ideally be either Attuned Crystal Chakram or Death Lotus Darts if you have access to either if you use abilities. Otherwise Chaotic is good for off hand if you go legacy


tim_chenw2.png
6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 Divination

Kiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)
Obby set renewed post update #2: 0

QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 Kits

Max Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd)

 

Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills.

 

Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h)


#3
Scherzo
[ Display Name History ]

Scherzo

    Unicorn Horn

  • Members
  • 183 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Norway
  • Joined:9 November 2011
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Scherzo
  • RSN2:Arnie Arnie

Thank you for the quick answer! 

Just one question: Why is it that the chakram is better than the chaotic cbow as off-hand? The dart is fair enough, as it's t85, but isn't the damage output of the cbow and chakram the same?



#4
Major Dash
[ Display Name History ]

Major Dash

    Skeleton Shield

  • Members
  • 1,167 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Cave City, KY
  • Joined:24 April 2012
  • RuneScape Status:Retired

The attuned version counts as like a level 82 weapon at 99 agility.


19509_s.gif

 

“I had a feeling we weren’t coming back from this fight when it began.”

“Do you have any regrets?”

“I don’t. It seems surprising, I know, but I wouldn’t change a thing. This is how it was meant to be.”

“Huh, you never really notice how lovely the day is until you realize you’ll never see it again.”

“Mmmhmm.”

 


#5
Arceus
[ Display Name History ]

Arceus

    Araxyte Authority

  • Administrators
  • 7,092 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Joined:7 December 2010
  • RuneScape Status:F2P

Thank you for the quick answer! 

Just one question: Why is it that the chakram is better than the chaotic cbow as off-hand? The dart is fair enough, as it's t85, but isn't the damage output of the cbow and chakram the same?

It has a small chance (that varies with Agility level) of doing 25% extra damage on a hit which should boost it a bit.


"Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art?
---

 

cWCZMZO.png
l1M6sfb.png


My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback.

#6
Scherzo
[ Display Name History ]

Scherzo

    Unicorn Horn

  • Members
  • 183 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Norway
  • Joined:9 November 2011
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
  • RSN:Scherzo
  • RSN2:Arnie Arnie

Thank you all! :)



#7
Saradomin_Mage
[ Display Name History ]

Saradomin_Mage

    The Two and Only

  • Members
  • 7,273 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Varrock Museum
  • Joined:13 November 2004
  • RuneScape Status:P2P
Dragonbane bolts are t60 damage, but when fighting against dragons while using them as ammo, your total ability damage (and accuracy) gets increased.

If you use an offhand dragon, chaotic or ascension crossbow, the damage output of your offhand weapon remains equivalent to t60 because your offhand crossbow uses the damage of your ammo slot. Switching to an offhand weapon that has its own damage value (dld, attuned chakram, even blisterwood stakes) increases your ability damage more than an offhand crossbow would.

6Ij0n.jpg

In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers.


#8
jayc3399
[ Display Name History ]

jayc3399

    Hobgoblin Killer

  • Members
  • 1,618 posts

Dragonbane bolts are t60 damage, but when fighting against dragons while using them as ammo, your total ability damage (and accuracy) gets increased.

If you use an offhand dragon, chaotic or ascension crossbow, the damage output of your offhand weapon remains equivalent to t60 because your offhand crossbow uses the damage of your ammo slot. Switching to an offhand weapon that has its own damage value (dld, attuned chakram, even blisterwood stakes) increases your ability damage more than an offhand crossbow would.


So if I'm following this correctly main hand chaotic and offhand chakram or blisterwood would be better then dual chaotics at qbd?

Archermanme.png
Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007

Iron_Archer.png

Items Acquired

Crystal Pick and Hatchet

Berzerker Ring x 3

3/28 Barrows Items


#9
Major Dash
[ Display Name History ]

Major Dash

    Skeleton Shield

  • Members
  • 1,167 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Cave City, KY
  • Joined:24 April 2012
  • RuneScape Status:Retired

 

Dragonbane bolts are t60 damage, but when fighting against dragons while using them as ammo, your total ability damage (and accuracy) gets increased.

If you use an offhand dragon, chaotic or ascension crossbow, the damage output of your offhand weapon remains equivalent to t60 because your offhand crossbow uses the damage of your ammo slot. Switching to an offhand weapon that has its own damage value (dld, attuned chakram, even blisterwood stakes) increases your ability damage more than an offhand crossbow would.


So if I'm following this correctly main hand chaotic and offhand chakram or blisterwood would be better then dual chaotics at qbd?

 

 

 

Infinitely. 


19509_s.gif

 

“I had a feeling we weren’t coming back from this fight when it began.”

“Do you have any regrets?”

“I don’t. It seems surprising, I know, but I wouldn’t change a thing. This is how it was meant to be.”

“Huh, you never really notice how lovely the day is until you realize you’ll never see it again.”

“Mmmhmm.”

 


#10
sponske
[ Display Name History ]

sponske

    Rat Meat

  • Members
  • 40 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Joined:15 November 2005
I want tot add that this is only the case when using dbane bolts

#11
jayc3399
[ Display Name History ]

jayc3399

    Hobgoblin Killer

  • Members
  • 1,618 posts


Dragonbane bolts are t60 damage, but when fighting against dragons while using them as ammo, your total ability damage (and accuracy) gets increased.

If you use an offhand dragon, chaotic or ascension crossbow, the damage output of your offhand weapon remains equivalent to t60 because your offhand crossbow uses the damage of your ammo slot. Switching to an offhand weapon that has its own damage value (dld, attuned chakram, even blisterwood stakes) increases your ability damage more than an offhand crossbow would.

So if I'm following this correctly main hand chaotic and offhand chakram or blisterwood would be better then dual chaotics at qbd?


Infinitely.

Interesting. Makes me second guess what chaotic I should buy first.

Archermanme.png
Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007

Iron_Archer.png

Items Acquired

Crystal Pick and Hatchet

Berzerker Ring x 3

3/28 Barrows Items


#12
DarkSano
[ Display Name History ]

DarkSano

    Goblin Armour

  • Members
  • 137 posts

also royal bolts are almost +200 dmg then dragonbane >.< so dragonbane only better for fighting dragons


phixcire.png





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users