May 16, 200620 yr Hi guys, Just making everyone aware of a phone scam that is operating in Australia... See: http://4wisemonkeys.com/dc-phone-scam/ Basically you get a quick prank call and if you ring it back you will get hit with $3 a minute and $4 each month thereafter
May 16, 200620 yr Thanks Skelm for the info. :) Not from Aussie, but did find that site quite informative on the matter. Adventurer's Log || YouTube || Facebook || Tip.it Times Work || Wanna Join the Editorial Panel?Maxed Out 01 October 2012 PDT
May 16, 200620 yr Theres been some usenet discussion over the past few months in aus.comms.mobile but no real information came out apart from word that they were pranking mobile phones all accross the country. Thanks for the link its good to have the extra information. ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002
May 16, 200620 yr Dam according to this guy: # David Says: Posted: 2 days, 21 hours ago at 11:15 pm Just got teh same deal from the following number 8404 2213 somone else on ocau reported getting one from 8404 2211 looks like they got a new block of numbers. Well the 02 8404 2213 number rang me aswell :?. Lucky I didn't ring back. Thanks for the info. RS Stats | BF2 Stats | ARSCV | LastFM
May 16, 200620 yr Dam according to this guy: # David Says: Posted: 2 days, 21 hours ago at 11:15 pm Just got teh same deal from the following number 8404 2213 somone else on ocau reported getting one from 8404 2211 looks like they got a new block of numbers. Well the 02 8404 2213 number rang me aswell :?. Lucky I didn't ring back. Thanks for the info. I got a similar missed call but had no interest in ringing back someone from NSW(?). Good to know thanks skelm
May 16, 200620 yr This is just one reason why i don't call people back unless i know exactly who they are. Kirk and Lars I could handle. At the same time.
May 16, 200620 yr So this is the article that netted you that cease and desist? My Tip.It Times Articles (10 and counting) || The Varrock Library Author Index projectDo you dare to dream? - Part 19 added. || The Hospital (WIP) - New story!Necromagus looks like a viking ... with glasses.
May 16, 200620 yr Author Theres been some usenet discussion over the past few months in aus.comms.mobile but no real information came out apart from word that they were pranking mobile phones all accross the country. Thanks for the link its good to have the extra information. ha. Without even trying I got the guys business records, home address, company structure and subsidary businesses...
May 16, 200620 yr Author So this is the article that netted you that cease and desist? That and my probing and gathering of information on him :) Should throw all the info to the SA and OT goons, doubt anyone here would be able to do anything with it...
May 16, 200620 yr Without even trying I got the guys business records, home address, company structure and subsidary businesses...Yes, but how many people, honestly, have that kind of know-how. Last time I utilized my skills in that I got called a stalker :(
May 16, 200620 yr I dont know about Australia but in the UK all businesses must have names and addresses registered at Companies House in order to actually trade. And thanks to the Freedom of Information act this data is legally obtainable by any member of the public that wants to know. I posted some of this at #DW but ill post a bit here too... I the UK we have possibly one of the best telecoms regulators in the world called ICSTIS and their spokesperson Rob Dwight regularly is quoted in the media in articles about companies abusing prs (premium rate services) Here are a few quotes about what he had to say on the matter of "missed call" advertising. "These scams are illegal" "These premium rate lines are set up just to fleece consumers." "No reputable company promotes its premium rate numbers in this way. And because it's unsolicited, these companies are in breach of the Data Protection Act - you have to give permission for your contact details to be used in this way." ICSTIS also recently closed down yet more companies using this "illegal" marketing scam so i think its pretty safe to say that this kind of stuff certainly isnt legal in this country but i'm not so sure about the Aussie laws. However as they have a registered address in the UK (Birmingham) it might be worth contacting Rob to see if he can help you out with trying to get information out of the Aussie regulator Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12
May 16, 200620 yr This is just it though, while they have a UK address, this scheme is not being performed in the UK. And it is Australian laws which apply. However I'm sure Mr Dwight will have some usefull information for handling this situation. I'll bring it up with Micheal. See what our lawyer thinks on the issue. The ACCC would probably be interested with what Rob has to say about this kind of scheme. Hard to ignore a leading figure in international consumer protection ;)
May 18, 200620 yr So this is the article that netted you that cease and desist? That and my probing and gathering of information on him :) Should throw all the info to the SA and OT goons, doubt anyone here would be able to do anything with it... Make the info avalible on 4wise monkeys! Or give it to me and ill post it in a reply. 4wisemonkeys.com isnt responsible for what users post ;) ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002
May 18, 200620 yr I cant belive I was too stupid to do a whois on their domain names. It seems noone is answering the phone anyway! What time is it in Germany? ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002
May 19, 200620 yr Author I cant belive I was too stupid to do a whois on their domain names. It seems noone is answering the phone anyway! What time is it in Germany? Careful :) There is already a police investigation underway from people calling and making threats :) OT <3 :P
May 19, 200620 yr I cant belive I was too stupid to do a whois on their domain names. It seems noone is answering the phone anyway! What time is it in Germany? Careful :) There is already a police investigation underway from people calling and making threats :) OT <3 :P Im not making threats im just ringing non stop until they answer. Subject: ATTN: Gruber Cut the crap we all know you and your company are nothing more than scammers. I personally think the stalker at the PO box was a good idea its nothing more than scum like you deserve. ~DaN Ah first email sent for my newest domain. ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002
May 19, 200620 yr Watch it DaN, Skelm might have the money for solicitors but do you? Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12
May 19, 200620 yr Watch it DaN, Skelm might have the money for solicitors but do you? Oh boohoo someone at DC-marketing got a email they might not like! Theres nothing they can do about an email. if i sent thousands then mayb. ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002
May 19, 200620 yr Condoning stalking isnt going to get you in the good books of any lawer. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12
May 19, 200620 yr Condoning stalking isnt going to get you in the good books of any lawer. Will scamming? ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002
May 20, 200620 yr Condoning stalking isnt going to get you in the good books of any lawer. Will scamming? Probably not, but a heap of cash will.
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