Vaki_Sanake Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 If this is spam or belong in a different forum, move it or close it :oops: This isn't help and advice because I'm not asking how do I hold a defender in Rs, I'm wondering how the hell you would hold one if you had one IRL. It has no hilt, just that stub, the blade is the size of a knife so the stub is tiny. How would you possibly hold that IRL? Maybe those pegs :? I'm back?! No wayz!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortilliachp Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 A "defender" is an item used in hand to hand combat. People actually use them today in street fights. it's basically a metal [bleep]e you hold in your fist while beating people with. it's just like those things with three rings for the fist you hit with. you'd hold the tiny end in the palm of your hand as well as the sticks and the blade would be the only thing sticking visible.[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smapla Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I think that we are looking at it from a way that distorts the handle a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salim123 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 the whole population of runescape is a midget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaki_Sanake Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 ^ What's that mean? I'm back?! No wayz!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodcountry Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 defenders are more like parrying daggers. popular in france or something back when swordplay was big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biabf Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Knuckledusters I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esper_Jones Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Oh, so you put the blade between a couple fingers, and grasp the handles? I guess it's longer than barbed knuckles, but used the same way? Jack of all trades, master of thieving. 259th to 99 thieving. All stats 75+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thus Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Oh, so you put the blade between a couple fingers, and grasp the handles? I guess it's longer than barbed knuckles, but used the same way? Yeah, Larxene from the kingdom hearts seriens used 4 per hand: They are smaller defenders called "kunais" but they are in essence the same thing (except they are not thrown) Knuckledusters I think? "Brass knuckles" : :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilev Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 basicly people have sumed it up but you place you middle and index on the bottom on long and by the cross part and ring and pinky finger on the other side and the stub slides into your palm they were quiet common during the middle ages looked very similar only smaller to a fencing sword i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthope Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 ya what that guy up there concering kh2 said off topic:i love kh2 \ God oF End Failed to light a fire at 99 firemaking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj926 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Why on earth would you use that for rl combat... I'd rather have a shield... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteboy1102 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 It's only the pcture in your inventory. They probly hold it by the pegs. OR the hilt is linger when you equip it. Off Topic: Roxas owns every character in Kingdom Hearts \ Roxas \ And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaki_Sanake Posted July 29, 2006 Author Share Posted July 29, 2006 Why on earth would you use that for rl combat... I'd rather have a shield... I guess because you can hid it in a sleeve because the size, and slide it down your arm and grab it without your enemy realizing it. I'm back?! No wayz!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc_comix_yo Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 A defender in reality is really just a dagger held in the off-hand. Italian designs tended to have rounded blades for stabbing only, but many other defenders had blades also. A shield is more conventional in an all out, fully armored battle with axes and maces and swords, but in a duel, you cant use a 30 pound slab of metal. In a real life duel... not RS duel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast647 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 it's just like those things with three rings for the fist you hit with. you'd hold the tiny end in the palm of your hand as well as the sticks and the blade would be the only thing sticking visible brass knuckles? Come to #tip-it on Swift IRC, if you're cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esper_Jones Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 They are smaller defenders called "kunais" but they are in essence the same thing (except they are not thrown) Er, Kunais are thrown. You mean defenders aren't? Watch some Naruto, why don't you! ;) Jack of all trades, master of thieving. 259th to 99 thieving. All stats 75+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune0nite Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Why on earth would you use that for rl combat... I'd rather have a shield... i'd rather have a gun :roll: well on topic kinda like pointy brass knucles caause its a point just not sharp kinda like a bolt or a smooth screw Just an average player with a horrible name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaki_Sanake Posted July 29, 2006 Author Share Posted July 29, 2006 ^ Ever plau Soul Calibur 3, theifs on that game use kunai but don't throw 'em. I'm back?! No wayz!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hell00omagz Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 u gotta size it down to rs people size it would fit we have all done this beforeone time i woke up sleeping under my bed with a jello and a spoon lol :ohnoes:Barrow Items: 31Le MTA vous poss̮̬̉̉de baiseur de m̮̬̉̉re Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage099 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Why on earth would you use that for rl combat... I'd rather have a shield... i'd rather have a gun :roll: well on topic kinda like pointy brass knucles caause its a point just not sharp kinda like a bolt or a smooth screw rofl good point. I think its just Jagex's picture that makes it look messed up Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj926 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Watch some Naruto I'd rather have my eyelids taken out and then be forced to live in a sunny and dry place for 3 years with no water. Naked. On topic, I refuse to believe these would be used for parrying. They're just too small. :notalk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestsob Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Knuckledusters I think?I think he means brass knuckles... I have a belt buckle that is made from brass knuckles, and they'er removable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thus Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 They are smaller defenders called "kunais" but they are in essence the same thing (except they are not thrown) Er, Kunais are thrown. You mean defenders aren't? Watch some Naruto, why don't you! ;) yes i mean defenters arent. :wink: its too late for me to watch naruto since i havent caught it in the beginning :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAHK Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Defenders are simply small daggers held in the off-hand (yes, held LIKE a dagger is held, lol.) They are often called "Main Gauche", which means left hand or something in french. They were superior to bucklers and other shields in duels against a "thrusting" weapon but inferior against "cutting" (slashing, chopping, etc.) weapons. Since daggers offered a superior form of alternate attack (stab/slash as opposed to bashing their heads in with the shield) and thrusting weapons were viewed as more deadly than cutting weapons, they were much more frequently used in duels. Thrusting offerred both a longer reach and a more protected form of attack (until some guy thought to simply step back and hack at the attackers' arm that is, lol. Took awhile, though.) Another great thing about them is that they offered better chances of a "riposte" (attacking immediatly after blocking/parrying an attack). So it is held by the "stub" like a dagger. The vantage point that the picture of the defender is taken makes it appear much too small to actually hold on to. A dds would look the same if pictured that way. ...history lesson over. :XD: PM me in game to use some skills of mine (glories/potions) free or to ask a question.Fire Cape - 04/29/06 Lvl 104RAHK's Pro PC Gear and Guide(clickable) Tired of hack and slash? FPSers getting old? Give this game a try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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