Cindy Sheehan and her Problems With Bush...

[Guest GhostRanger]

He said that he doesn't agree with all of Sheehan's views. Bush is not to be blamed for Sheehan's son's death. However, he is to be questioned over the real motivation of the invasion of Iraq.

 

 

 

~Mike~

 

 

 

Admiring Sheehan is admiring what she's doing. Whether or not he agrees with her view, she is using her son's name to propel her agenda, when her son's name clearly shouldn't be used for her agenda. You can agree or disagree with her views and still understand the way she's going about it is inappropriate, and in my previous words, disgusting.

[Bmw]

Today's news: "Sheehan Hospitalized After Hunger Strike"

 

 

 

=D> Good job, you loser! :lol:

[Necromagus]

Look, grief makes her do things that you might disagree with, but if not out of respect for her then out of respect for her son, just let her be. She's not hurting anyone...

[Guest GhostRanger]

Look, grief makes her do things that you might disagree with, but if not out of respect for her then out of respect for her son, just let her be. She's not hurting anyone...

 

 

 

I think what she's doing is disrespecting her son. She's using his name in death to support a cause he clearly didn't support. It's hard to get more disrespectful than that.

[Tigra00]

Look, grief makes her do things that you might disagree with, but if not out of respect for her then out of respect for her son, just let her be. She's not hurting anyone...

 

 

 

I think what she's doing is disrespecting her son. She's using his name in death to support a cause he clearly didn't support. It's hard to get more disrespectful than that.

 

 

 

She often refers to terrorists as "Freedom Fighters". Cleary she can surpass even herself. :P

[dangeresque]

if u think about it if u oppose going to war with saddam that is like opposing fighting in ww2 against hitler...same person, hitler jus killed more people...saddam was crazy..to keep him in power would hav been would hav been dumb! and if u didnt want to stop the suffering of the iraqis u arent a very nice person. and also in my opinion i think a war with iraq was innevitable and bush just started something sooner....thats all

[Bmw]

if u think about it if u oppose going to war with saddam that is like opposing fighting in ww2 against hitler...same person, hitler jus killed more people...saddam was crazy..to keep him in power would hav been would hav been dumb! and if u didnt want to stop the suffering of the iraqis u arent a very nice person. and also in my opinion i think a war with iraq was innevitable and bush just started something sooner....thats all

 

 

 

On behalf of everyone in favour of Bush and the War in Iraq, I apologize for Dangeresque's post.

 

 

 

Saddam isn't like Hitler...how can you compare the two, other than the fact that they've been labeled Dictators? It's like saying...The New Kids on the Block and The Beatles are the same #-o

 

 

 

I'll put words into Dangeresque's mouth here, and say noone wants to turn this topic into an arguement on whether the war in Iraq is just, or not. Let's continue to focus on bashing Sheehan \

 

 

 

Reading through the pages, I've seen the following quote a few times:

 

"She isn't hurting anyone, leave her alone."

 

 

 

Are you kidding me? She's annoying as heck! Picture this:

 

 

 

I come up to you, and run around you in circles, everywhere you go. I never touch you or anyone else, I just run around you in circles. When you sleep, I run around your bed. When you're on the toilet, I run around it too. If it's attached to the wall, I'll run in semi-circles. Ok, that was a bit odd, but see my point? I'm sure Bush would rather her actually hurt him with one strong punch, rather than bug him for the rest of his life :uhh:

[Giordano]

if u think about it if u oppose going to war with saddam that is like opposing fighting in ww2 against hitler...same person, hitler jus killed more people...saddam was crazy..to keep him in power would hav been would hav been dumb! and if u didnt want to stop the suffering of the iraqis u arent a very nice person. and also in my opinion i think a war with iraq was innevitable and bush just started something sooner....thats all

 

 

 

On behalf of everyone in favour of Bush and the War in Iraq, I apologize for Dangeresque's post.

 

 

 

Saddam isn't like Hitler...how can you compare the two, other than the fact that they've been labeled Dictators? It's like saying...The New Kids on the Block and The Beatles are the same #-o

 

 

 

I'll put words into Dangeresque's mouth here, and say noone wants to turn this topic into an arguement on whether the war in Iraq is just, or not. Let's continue to focus on bashing Sheehan \

 

 

 

Reading through the pages, I've seen the following quote a few times:

 

"She isn't hurting anyone, leave her alone."

 

 

 

Are you kidding me? She's annoying as heck! Picture this:

 

 

 

I come up to you, and run around you in circles, everywhere you go. I never touch you or anyone else, I just run around you in circles. When you sleep, I run around your bed. When you're on the toilet, I run around it too. If it's attached to the wall, I'll run in semi-circles. Ok, that was a bit odd, but see my point? I'm sure Bush would rather her actually hurt him with one strong punch, rather than bug him for the rest of his life :uhh:

 

Well thats the point of smart protesting, no? :wink:

[Bmw]

if u think about it if u oppose going to war with saddam that is like opposing fighting in ww2 against hitler...same person, hitler jus killed more people...saddam was crazy..to keep him in power would hav been would hav been dumb! and if u didnt want to stop the suffering of the iraqis u arent a very nice person. and also in my opinion i think a war with iraq was innevitable and bush just started something sooner....thats all

 

 

 

On behalf of everyone in favour of Bush and the War in Iraq, I apologize for Dangeresque's post.

 

 

 

Saddam isn't like Hitler...how can you compare the two, other than the fact that they've been labeled Dictators? It's like saying...The New Kids on the Block and The Beatles are the same #-o

 

 

 

I'll put words into Dangeresque's mouth here, and say noone wants to turn this topic into an arguement on whether the war in Iraq is just, or not. Let's continue to focus on bashing Sheehan \

 

 

 

Reading through the pages, I've seen the following quote a few times:

 

"She isn't hurting anyone, leave her alone."

 

 

 

Are you kidding me? She's annoying as heck! Picture this:

 

 

 

I come up to you, and run around you in circles, everywhere you go. I never touch you or anyone else, I just run around you in circles. When you sleep, I run around your bed. When you're on the toilet, I run around it too. If it's attached to the wall, I'll run in semi-circles. Ok, that was a bit odd, but see my point? I'm sure Bush would rather her actually hurt him with one strong punch, rather than bug him for the rest of his life :uhh:

 

Well thats the point of smart protesting, no? :wink:

 

 

 

Oh, definitely. I don't think anyone is questioning her protesting skills, she's certainly gotten her message out there. She did an amazing job in terms of media buzz and all that. The arguement is that shes a lunatic, thats all :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

In other news though, there was a funeral for a fallen Canadian soldier today. Here's a bit of what the mother of that soldier had to say:

 

 

 

I make this simple request to the Afghan people: Reach out and grab on to the help we offer to you in good faith. Together, and only together, can we succeed. To one and all, I have this request. Please support our troops, they need you standing behind them.

 

 

 

=D>

[Guest GhostRanger]

Reading through the pages, I've seen the following quote a few times:

 

"She isn't hurting anyone, leave her alone."

 

 

 

Are you kidding me? She's annoying as heck! Picture this:

 

 

 

I come up to you, and run around you in circles, everywhere you go. I never touch you or anyone else, I just run around you in circles. When you sleep, I run around your bed. When you're on the toilet, I run around it too. If it's attached to the wall, I'll run in semi-circles. Ok, that was a bit odd, but see my point? I'm sure Bush would rather her actually hurt him with one strong punch, rather than bug him for the rest of his life :uhh:

 

 

 

That brings up a good point I should have responded too. In Vietnamese General was once quoted (can't be bothered to look it up right now) saying that part of the morning routine for them was to read in the papers about the protesting in America. As long as Americans were putting pressure on the American government, they had faith they could eventually win. In the case of terrorism, them thinking they can still win is a bad thing.

 

 

 

Protesters do more harm than people think. You can argue with me about duty to stand up for what you think, but let's face it: Bush isn't going to budge at this point... and given the terrorists more hope will kill more Americans.

[____]

First I've heard of this, and I really don't give a damn.

 

Just another voice in the crowd, why give her special attention?

[Barihawk]

She is actually on the edge of moving out of her first amendment rights. The first amendment does not protect libel, slander, or harrassment. She is on the verge of harrassment, and edging closer to the others.

 

 

 

Her protests can be argued to lower the property values of not only Bush's land, but various other Crawford residents. Eventually after it has been lowered a certain amount, they will be able to bring suit to her and force a restraining order against her (ie she will have to stay a certain mileage away from Crawford. I doubt President Bush would bring the suit, but I am sure some of his neighbors would.

 

 

 

I have friends here at Uni from Crawford, and they said that thier families are pissed hardcore at Sheehan for disrupting thier community.

 

 

 

People need to stop thinking as this being a struggle between Sheehan and Bush. She is doing more harm to ordinary people than she is the President.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And not to mention her son re-upped. That shows that he was ready to die for the "unnecessary war", and his mother really should respect that.

[Guest GhostRanger]

First I've heard of this, and I really don't give a damn.

 

Just another voice in the crowd, why give her special attention?

 

 

 

Because a lot of news stations see her as a great tool against Bush and Republicans and all last year put her on he news 24/7.

[____]

Because a lot of news stations see her as a great tool against Bush and Republicans and all last year put her on he news 24/7.

So essentially she's a media play-toy. Right, that makes sense then.

[Tigra00]

Noone's going to vote Republican anyways. All the democrats have to do is mention gas prices and they're as good as in. :lol:

 

 

 

America is very materialistic like that.

[Kryptic]

I think you should have a right to choose to go or not. It shouldnt be "You have to go, or your going to jail." Maybe she knew that he wouldve chose not to go if he could.

 

 

 

Ive seen a video of a guy who got drafted and decided to break both his legs to avade the war. Probably isn't the smartest approach - but really, why go and fight in Iraq? I think its an empty cause, seeing how the Iraqis themselves dont want the troops there.

[Guest GhostRanger]

I think you should have a right to choose to go or not. It shouldnt be "You have to go, or your going to jail." Maybe she knew that he wouldve chose not to go if he could.

 

 

 

Ive seen a video of a guy who got drafted and decided to break both his legs to avade the war. Probably isn't the smartest approach - but really, why go and fight in Iraq? I think its an empty cause, seeing how the Iraqis themselves dont want the troops there.

 

 

 

At the moment, we do have a choice. There is no draft. Her son, Casey, volunteered to join the miltary. After serving his required tour in Iraq - he volunteered to go a second time. No one made him go and there was no penalty if he didn't. It was entirely his choice when he joined the military, and it was even more his choice when he volunteered for a second tour in Iraq.

[Kryptic]

In that case, I think Bush can smack her silly.

 

 

 

(sarcasm at its worst)

[Tetsuya]

Sure, some of her motives are questionable. But whats she's doing is commendable. She's rallying support for the cause and speaking out against a war based on lies.

 

 

 

If people(pro war crowd) don't like her they can just ignore her. But instead they complain, and make a bigger deal about it. Yes, the news networks are giving her attention. But which one is giving her the most? Fox News. Coincidence? I think not.

[Guest GhostRanger]

Sure, some of her motives are questionable. But whats she's doing is commendable. She's rallying support for the cause and speaking out against a war based on lies.

 

 

 

If people(pro war crowd) don't like her they can just ignore her. But instead they complain, and make a bigger deal about it. Yes, the news networks are giving her attention. But which one is giving her the most? Fox News. Coincidence? I think not.

 

 

 

It's commendable to use her son's death in a way that dishonors him and something he clearly believed in? I think you have the wrong definition of commendable.

[dangeresque]

I think you should have a right to choose to go or not. It shouldnt be "You have to go, or your going to jail." Maybe she knew that he wouldve chose not to go if he could.

 

 

 

Ive seen a video of a guy who got drafted and decided to break both his legs to avade the war. Probably isn't the smartest approach - but really, why go and fight in Iraq? I think its an empty cause, seeing how the Iraqis themselves dont want the troops there.

 

 

 

most iraqis like the americans but its usually the islamic extremists with their heads up their butts that dont like them....

[SLOWSTORM]

I think you should have a right to choose to go or not. It shouldnt be "You have to go, or your going to jail." Maybe she knew that he wouldve chose not to go if he could.

 

 

 

Ive seen a video of a guy who got drafted and decided to break both his legs to avade the war. Probably isn't the smartest approach - but really, why go and fight in Iraq? I think its an empty cause, seeing how the Iraqis themselves dont want the troops there.

 

 

 

Okay, first things first. There has not been a draft for this war. So your video is probably from someplace like...let's see... Palestine? Because in that area of the world, there is a name for soldiers who refuse to go to war. Mostly they call them Dead. Think about it. What are soldiers being paid for? What are they being trained for? When you join any military, you are required to do whatever your commanding officer tells you. You sign that paper the first day you're in, usually. I personally know families who have lost boys in the war, but I also know families who lost loved ones in the twin towers. If it were me, I would rather die fighting for my country than in a terrorist attack versus civilians. Casey Sheehan died well, and should be honored. The more his mother does in this direction, the more she besmirches his life and his death.