Cindy Sheehan and her Problems With Bush...

[Biggieg333]

As most Americans will know, a woman named Cindy SHeehan has been "terrorizing" Bush at his ranch. All because her son died in the Middle East Conflict, she automatically blames Bush. I'm sorry, but it is not Bush's fault. Sheehan's son joined the Army. Cindy and her son should've known that he could die over there. I don't care if she thinks it Bush's fault, because it is he son's fault entirely. I don't care if he died either, because it is his fault. Anyone want to elaborate?

[Rose_2_Pure]

I agree, he took a risk. Although it's unfortunate he died, her son knew he could die.

[insaneinsane]

Although it is true that her son should have known he was taking a risk, that does not disqualify her right to question the war. There is the right to Free Speech (first ammendment) and that applies to every American- regardless of if they lost a family member fighting a war.

 

 

 

~Mike~

[Tetsuya]

It's hardly "terrorizing" it's peacefully protesting.

 

 

 

Anyways, it is mostly Bush's fault for the start of the Iraq war. Sure, her son did join the military. But there wouldn't have been a war if it wasn't for Bush. He kept pushing for his war and tying it in with 9/11 and the war on terror even though Iraq had nothing to do with it. Cindy Sheehan and the other protesters have every right to protest at Bush's ranch.

[Necromagus]

I really don't see why hackles have to be raised over this grieving mother. She's coping with her son's death in a way that she feels is fitting. She's hardly firebombing governement property. It's just peaceful protest that falls entirely within her constitutional rights. People might call her unpatriotic for it, but I'd say speaking her mind in this way makes her more patriotic than most Americans, whether she's right or not. She's not letting governement bullying or an imaginary terrorist threat curb her freedoms, unlike some people...

[blushenka]

It is Bush's fault for starting and prolonging the war.

 

My country, thanks to its very bright leader [/sarcasm] got dragged into this mess as well, and a few of our soldiers died there. Their families would have all the reason to protest, even more so because they died in a war that didn't concern them or their country at all. But yeah, politics and politicians ftw...

[How2PK]

Yea, and if he worked at some kind of construction company he might have fell of a high building. Or if he were a cab driver he could have a car accident. He was a soldier, and he died. Risk of the job. Sure it's sad for the woman and all, and she can protest all she wants. But I wonder if pointing fingers is going to help much.

[Bubsa]

I need a citation here. Is her protesting peaceful or does she vandalise etc.?

[Giordano]

This war is benefiting the government, not the people. Thus I believe she is doing the right thing.

 

 

 

A war that actully helps the people is, a good example, WWII. The Japanese would of conqored Hawaii and the western US. Germany would of captured all of Europe.

 

 

 

This war is just standing in a desert, not knowing who is bad nor good, and searching the whole country for terrorists and making more chaos. Plus adding the price of oil. $3 and rising now :x

[Biggieg333]

Although it is true that her son should have known he was taking a risk, that does not disqualify her right to question the war. There is the right to Free Speech (first ammendment) and that applies to every American- regardless of if they lost a family member fighting a war.

 

 

 

~Mike~

You have a point, but that doesn't mean stalk the porr President. She has now bought land right next to his Ranch, and I think it is just to make him angry.

[Bubsa]

I do not envy the person who finally breaks to her that all the protesting in the world won't bring her son back.

 

 

 

She has the right to protest and I'm happy that she's a do-er, not a thinker. But buying land next to his ranch? That's just spiteful and benefits no-one.

[Guest GhostRanger]

I need a citation here. Is her protesting peaceful or does she vandalise etc.?

 

 

 

Semi-peaceful. She was arrested at one point for violating some laws when she protested but it's generally peaceful.

 

 

 

I don't have a problem with Sheehan, I just think she's silly. Her son, Casey, was just a member of the U.S. military. He served his tour in Iraq and after going once and believing in the cause, he volunteered for a second tour and that's when he was killed. He obviously believed in his cause, and I feel bad for him that his mother would have such little faith in Casey's beliefs and dishonor his valiant death.

 

 

 

Oh well though. She's not my mom and she's not doing anything productive. Let her excersize her constitutional rights to protest and we can keep ignoring her.

[Tigra00]

I really don't see why hackles have to be raised over this grieving mother. She's coping with her son's death in a way that she feels is fitting. She's hardly firebombing governement property. It's just peaceful protest that falls entirely within her constitutional rights. People might call her unpatriotic for it, but I'd say speaking her mind in this way makes her more patriotic than most Americans, whether she's right or not. She's not letting governement bullying or an imaginary terrorist threat curb her freedoms, unlike some people...

 

 

 

She bridged the gap between "Grieving mother" and "moronic publicity [bleep]" when she started calling Al-Queda "Freedom Fighters".

 

 

 

Everytime she opens her mouth, she pisses on her son's grave, and yes, I did just say she pisses out of her mouth. She should just be quiet. All the protesting in the world will not stop a war nor will it bring her child back.

[mad4u689]

He should have known he was risking his life when he signed up for the army.

 

 

 

It is the government's fault in that they make it impossible for some students to pay for college, etc. unless they join the army. It seems like an enticing deal - join the Reserves, you don't actually have to do much probably, and we'll pay for your college education for you! If you've ever been to a recruitment office, they do everything they can to try to convince you it's a good idea and you won't die and you don't have to do combat, etc.

 

 

 

But in the end, you could die. You are putting yourself out there. You sign the contract and release and such. It is your decision and ultimately your risk and your fault.

 

 

 

however, the government needs to change its policy, which allows almost no other option for poor kids...

[Tigra00]

Pfft, the government pays for my education anyways. Go go super duper grants n' stuff!

 

 

 

You won't find my [wagon] in no army. No sir!

[blue107]

i find it funny how idiots think bush said 'i wanna go get iraq' and started a war with them

 

 

 

idiots dont realise he controls very little, congress chose to go to war

[indy500fan]

she chose to use her first amendment right to protest.

 

 

 

i used my first amendment right to completly ignore her.

 

 

 

everyone is happy :D

[apinagez]

Who doesn't have problems with Bush?

[pianofrieak2]

I need a citation here. Is her protesting peaceful or does she vandalise etc.?

 

 

 

Semi-peaceful. She was arrested at one point for violating some laws when she protested but it's generally peaceful.

 

 

 

I don't have a problem with Sheehan, I just think she's silly. Her son, Casey, was just a member of the U.S. military. He served his tour in Iraq and after going once and believing in the cause, he volunteered for a second tour and that's when he was killed. He obviously believed in his cause, and I feel bad for him that his mother would have such little faith in Casey's beliefs and dishonor his valiant death.

 

 

 

Oh well though. She's not my mom and she's not doing anything productive. Let her excersize her constitutional rights to protest and we can keep ignoring her.

 

 

 

I agree with Ghost entirely. But I feel terrible for her son (if he could see her now). I do feel sorry for her, though, for I think that she's just doing it because she's "supposed" to, due to her publicity. We'll see. maybe it's just a way to get some extra money and fame?

[insaneinsane]

i find it funny how idiots think bush said 'i wanna go get iraq' and started a war with them

 

 

 

idiots dont realise he controls very little, congress chose to go to war

 

 

 

Respect. Please do not forget that, Just because someone has a diiferent view than you does not make them an idiot. Unless they believe that 2+2=997658957958770. In that case, they're an idiot.

 

 

 

Regarding Congress, keep in mind that they only chose to go to war on the intelligence that bush gave them. This intelligence has been proven over and over to be false. In fact, the source never should have been credible. However, Congress was never made aware of this.

 

 

 

~Mike~

[weezcake]

I actually admire Sheehan. I don't exactly agree with her super leftist views (though I am antiwar, I am realistic and know we can't pull out right now without heavy consequences). I admire her for actually taking a stand against the war (which I think is great) and not just thinking and complaining about it.

 

 

 

She is well within her rights and I applaud her.

[mad4u689]

Blue, I don't think that's quite accurate. Bush and his administration clearly pushed for the war - though Congress voted on it (though never declared war officially! in fact, first the administration controlled the troops and then Congress voted! This is not how war was meant to be in the Constitution)...

 

 

 

Though Congress voted on it, it was clearly the Bush administration that pushed for it. It would not have happened had Bush not made it an issue in the first place.

[Guest GhostRanger]

I actually admire Sheehan. I don't exactly agree with her super leftist views (though I am antiwar, I am realistic and know we can't pull out right now without heavy consequences). I admire her for actually taking a stand against the war (which I think is great) and not just thinking and complaining about it.

 

 

 

She is well within her rights and I applaud her.

 

 

 

Do you applaud her for blaming her son's death on Bush when her son volunteered to serve in Iraq for a second time after he had already done it once and wanted to go again? Do you applaud her for using her son's death and image in a way that he clearly would have opposed as he chose to serve in Iraq twice after he saw and believed in the cause during his first tour?

 

 

 

Taking a stand is great, but Sheehan is dishonoring the message her son clearly believed in with his own name. That's disgusting.

[insaneinsane]

I actually admire Sheehan. I don't exactly agree with her super leftist views (though I am antiwar, I am realistic and know we can't pull out right now without heavy consequences). I admire her for actually taking a stand against the war (which I think is great) and not just thinking and complaining about it.

 

 

 

She is well within her rights and I applaud her.

 

 

 

Do you applaud her for blaming her son's death on Bush when her son volunteered to serve in Iraq for a second time after he had already done it once and wanted to go again? Do you applaud her for using her son's death and image in a way that he clearly would have opposed as he chose to serve in Iraq twice after he saw and believed in the cause during his first tour?

 

 

 

Taking a stand is great, but Sheehan is dishonoring the message her son clearly believed in with his own name. That's disgusting.

 

 

 

He said that he doesn't agree with all of Sheehan's views. Bush is not to be blamed for Sheehan's son's death. However, he is to be questioned over the real motivation of the invasion of Iraq.

 

 

 

~Mike~

[dangeresque]

i feel bad for everyman that dies over there but none of their deaths r bushs fault u must admit that! they took the risk of joining..so its not bushs fault! and the passed on soliders would probly b happier if u didnt blame all their deaths on bush!