piman1053 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Drop percentages are a tricky thing. Its all about probablility, and because that would be hard to calculate to any degree of precision without hundreds of thousands of kills, its safe to say thats it just like trying to draw a royal flush out of a deck of several hundred cards, but with only one possible combonation in the whole deck. Im not saying that the person who got chains on his 5th and 30th kills is a lier, and I am also saying that 20k kills does not guarantee a chain. Nonetheless, because Dust Devils do drop Dragon Chainbodies, it is a good idea to train range there, although I am only speaking from other friends' stories, not from experience, so they might have high def, but their popularity makes me doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis_42 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 It took me well over 6.5k dust devils for me to get a chain. I'm not sure as to the exact amount since I stopped counting after a while, however it should be somewhere around there. None the less, they are very good range training, and I myself am planning to use up 30k iron knives on these guys once I finish making them. Should get me a fair few levels, and a chain on the side might be nice. However i'm not expecting one. "Those who know nothing, can understand nothing" - Ansem, Kingdom Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirob1414 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Got 1 in less than 1.4k arrows :) Currently past 3.2k waiting for number 2. Gone from 76 to 83 range on dusties alone http://hiscore.runescape.com/index_lite ... =sirob1414 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbellz Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Lucky ducks.. *Runs to slayer master for 65 Slayer* :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSoultar Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 they might have high def, but their popularity makes me doubt it. Their defence is a joke. To be honest, I'm surprised that they're level 93. They are so easy to kill. And according to a very reliable source that I asked a while ago, the odds of getting a d chain from dust devils is 1 in 32,768 or 2^15. Apparently all drop odds can be expressed as 2^x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackeagle2138 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I've never tried em...hmm, I might raise slayer on my pure and raise ranged on Dust Devils Lucky ducks.. *Runs to slayer master for 65 Slayer* :x *looks at your sig* I'll be your buddy :3> Then fork out money for the full version. Ooooh f2p'ers just got BURNED by a Tip It mod! :twisted: listen to Bubsa sing! \:D/ ->http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=309164 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbellz Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 they might have high def, but their popularity makes me doubt it. Their defence is a joke. To be honest, I'm surprised that they're level 93. They are so easy to kill. And according to a very reliable source that I asked a while ago, the odds of getting a d chain from dust devils is 1 in 32,768 or 2^15. Apparently all drop odds can be expressed as 2^x.2^x? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis_42 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 they might have high def, but their popularity makes me doubt it. Their defence is a joke. To be honest, I'm surprised that they're level 93. They are so easy to kill. And according to a very reliable source that I asked a while ago, the odds of getting a d chain from dust devils is 1 in 32,768 or 2^15. Apparently all drop odds can be expressed as 2^x. I was thinking about adding that into my post, however I figured that it would go over most peoples heads and be ignored. From what I know of coding, this seems like the most logical way of going about it. And just out of curiosity, what is your "reliable source"? EDIT: 2^x? Means two to the power of X, where X is your variable. (in this case, 2x2 fifteen times and you come out with 32768) "Those who know nothing, can understand nothing" - Ansem, Kingdom Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbellz Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 2^x? Means two to the power of X, where X is your variable. (in this case, 2x2 fifteen times and you come out with 32768) Oh yeah! lol, guess Summer was too long for me lol.... :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSoultar Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 And just out of curiosity, what is your "reliable source"? A friend of mine and fellow tipiter, TheZephyrus, smart guy especially at math. And since I haven't known him to be wrong before, I trust his judgement on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilev Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 around 2.5k no luck, i gave up after like 2k but 500 from tasks and stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runescapefan948374 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Found one after 782 kills. Just a matter of luck, patience and time until you find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngorge Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 There is a good thread on official forums which shows that the drop rates is roughly 1/20k. They have over 1m kills and that is about how often the dchain occurs. Obviously this doesn't guarantee that killing 20k dustdevils will result in a dchain, that is not how statistics work. Still, it does show that the drop is very rare, but possible. Regardless dustdevils have great drops, and a dchain only sweetens the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codguy Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 So in this formula 2^X, how do you find the variable? Or more specifically, what is the variable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis_42 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 So in this formula 2^X, how do you find the variable? Or more specifically, what is the variable? As stated priviously, the variable that is used to find the odds of getting a d chain drop is 15. I haven't a clue where the guy got this from, I assume its just from data that other people provided and a good guess. "Those who know nothing, can understand nothing" - Ansem, Kingdom Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuhdude Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 they might have high def, but their popularity makes me doubt it. Their defence is a joke. To be honest, I'm surprised that they're level 93. They are so easy to kill. And according to a very reliable source that I asked a while ago, the odds of getting a d chain from dust devils is 1 in 32,768 or 2^15. Apparently all drop odds can be expressed as 2^x. :shock: aaarrrggh!! no! dear god do not talk about algebra! i beg of you! my head hurts already.... *cries* PKERS CAN ALL BE DAMNED TO HELL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentone64 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 killed 15k+ no chain....gave up on that lol :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bored321 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 yea i got 1 after 3k kills Thanks Gradeskip93 for my awesome sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider2003 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I killed around 2000-2500 dusties and got no chain I also know som1 hwo killed 33k with no chain :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost-Knigth Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I got from 83-87 ranged there and no chain.. So that must be some thousands.. It's lame when people get a chain in a few houndred kills.. :-X 99 ranged | 99 magic | 99 defence | 99 hitpointsRemember, it's just a gameFeel free to add me on RS. :) Always ready for a chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin_ Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Zot got one on 127th kill. Takes pure luck. *Rubs my teddy bat for luck* Anyway I've seen someone with 20k kills and no luck. I rather rub the green p hat i got for it :) but yeah i got one after 127 Some people dream of success, while others make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varda Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 One after 8-10 kills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I Know a guy who killed about 6k and then Still didn't get a chain :shock: Nintendo Wii's Are Dangerous, Check it outhttp://www.wiihaveaproblem.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost8810 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 my irl friend killed about 80~ and got a chain :wall: :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halo2_rocks7 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I'm about to go there and see how many it takes to kill to get a chain. BTW, how should I kill them? Range or melee? (on topic) I know someone who got one after 53 kills :wall: Thanks Jason321 for the sig!^ Proud to have served the Tip.it Crew Drops: 2x D Chain, 1x D Legs, 2x D Left Half, 1x D spear, 2x D med (monsters), 5x D Med (Barrows), 4x D Axe, 2x Zerker, Abyssal whip x1, 7x D BootsBarrows items: 55 (not counting the meds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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