Ever since Pest Control came out, 120s became more and more common. Therefore, more and more people are attempting to get 99 prayer and "complete" the combat side of the game. 99 prayer , previously are almost impossible to get unless you happened to be 1 of the big time stakers / merchants , are not no longer view as that purely because of Pcing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is PCing to 99 prayer really as good as it seems to?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe? Maybe not?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Heres a few calculation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically only the level 120s will actually go about trying to get 99 prayer so i am going to base my calculation on a level 122 ( Maxed out melee stats with 66 prayer ).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prayer Exp at 66 : 496254

 

 

 

Prayer Exp UNTIL 99 : 12538177

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

( Due to the different exp each level get from a single PC Point, i will use use the Midway point Exp for the EXP you get per PC point (You reach half the EXP to 99 at level 91))

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PC Exp Per Game : 760 ( rounded off and added in the 10% bonus )

 

 

 

Numbers of PC game needed : 16500 ( rounded off )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How long do you need to do 16500 PC games?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With the BEST PC Team, you can only do like 50 games per hour so i will take it as you WILL get 50 damage or more for EVERY game you play.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Numbers of hours needed : 330

 

 

 

Numbers of GP earned : 21.5mil ( im taking it as you earn 1.3k PER game )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now , lets do some calculation for getting 99 prayer with altars

 

 

 

Numbers of Dragon Bones needed for 99 : 49800 ( Using gilded altars with 2 burners)

 

 

 

Amount of money needed : 100mil ( I am assuming that bones are 2k each and i rounded off to make it look nicer lol )

 

 

 

Numbers of hours needed : 50hrs ( It is not hard to do 1k bone per hr if you concentrate )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Numbers of hours Saved using Dragon Bones : 280 hours.

 

 

 

Amount of money earned in 280 hours Killing green Dragon : 112Million ( assuming you earn 400k per hour )

 

 

 

Amount of money earned after everything : 12mil

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obviously, using this calculation method , it shows that PC is the better method as it earn you 21.5mil compare to the other way of 12mil.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, there is a few points to think about.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 . As it is not possible to do 16.5k PC games without failing, therefore, the actual time will be longer and the difference in profit may be smaller or even allow the other way to be more profitable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 . I am pretty sure earning more than 400k per hour is not the max and even if you earn 100k more per hour over 280 hours will make a 28mil differences in the final figure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 . 16.5k PC games are not the exact amount of games you actually need to do so therefore the time taken and money earn could vary by quite alot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 . While using altar to do the dragon bones , it is possible to bury it accidentally and therefore would require more bones and thus more money needed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5 . There is NO random events in PC but you can get random events doing the altar way so the time taken could change again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6 . Food is needed for killing green dragons ( My example of spending the extra 280 hours is to kill green dragons ) and thus actual profit could be off by some way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7 . Pkers could kill you while you killing green dragons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

8 . Drops from green dragons could greatly be a BIG difference ( especially clues and dragon drop )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, what do you think of PCing to 99 prayer?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would you do it? What are your comments ? ( Dont tell me that this thing is long because i know it lol )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Note : All calculation in this topic are using optimal conditions ( except for the green dragon killing )

You forgot to add in the time needed to slay the green dragons, you don't just get the bones and hides willy-nilly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I must say, nice post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would probably end up using pest control, but alas all my points are going into ranging or strength.

You forgot to add in the time needed to slay the green dragons, you don't just get the bones and hides willy-nilly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I must say, nice post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would probably end up using pest control, but alas all my points are going into ranging or strength.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, i did ..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Using altars and bones , you need 50hrs ( according to my calculation ) while pcing require 330 hrs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Therefore i "used" the spare 280 hrs to go and kill green dragons.

Nice calculations. Pest control is made easy because you don't really need anything except yourself an armor. It has made high lvls way too common, and I'm disgusted at the amount of lvl 120's who still behave like complete noobs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Back in rs1, 100 combat was very good to see, and 110 + was extraordinary. Now however, people can max in a few mere months, I can't stand it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess in the end Jagex gave in to the constant complaints of 7 year olds who thought the game was too tough :roll:

I disagree, with affliction you can get some really fast games going... on my level 95 account i almost always had 150+ damage each game and they were under a minute each time

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have managed to get over 60 points in 1 hour with affliction before - don't belive me take a look at this boat...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pcing to 99 prayer definately is not the way to go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i suggest you pc til ur 99 in every combat stat but prayer, so melee range magic the buy bones with the $ u made off that time. i assume that would get you at least 5k dragon bones?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

then pc til about 90 prayer. then your almost 50% of the exp needed for 99. and ull be a lvl 125. now of course you could have used god knows how many points on prayer but its soo slow

i'm too tired to go into full detail, but I think you have some flaws in your calculations, at least when it comes to the money saved vs time saved.

nice calculation... 330 hours... not bad... thats the same time i need for 99 fishing...

Nice calculations. Pest control is made easy because you don't really need anything except yourself an armor. It has made high lvls way too common, and I'm disgusted at the amount of lvl 120's who still behave like complete noobs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Back in rs1, 100 combat was very good to see, and 110 + was extraordinary. Now however, people can max in a few mere months, I can't stand it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess in the end Jagex gave in to the constant complaints of 7 year olds who thought the game was too tough :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't agree, PC is a great way of getting xp and making new friends, and I am prob alot older than most Runescape players, I recently joined Affliction too, and it makes training more fun, how can you say it's a bad thing when you can sit at bandit camp for 2 weeks and level just as quick but be lonely and boring?

 

Nice calculations. Pest control is made easy because you don't really need anything except yourself an armor. It has made high lvls way too common, and I'm disgusted at the amount of lvl 120's who still behave like complete noobs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Back in rs1, 100 combat was very good to see, and 110 + was extraordinary. Now however, people can max in a few mere months, I can't stand it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess in the end Jagex gave in to the constant complaints of 7 year olds who thought the game was too tough :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't agree, PC is a great way of getting xp and making new friends, and I am prob alot older than most Runescape players, I recently joined Affliction too, and it makes training more fun, how can you say it's a bad thing when you can sit at bandit camp for 2 weeks and level just as quick but be lonely and boring?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pc has made combat soo much easier

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you dont level nearly as quick @ bandits(i dont like bandit training either but still) as you do with pc i believe that pc has actually become the new way of complain about rsc to rs2 products, seriously... pc has gapped the bridge from rsc and rs2 products, to now pc products.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i was playing some hardcore pest control when gettin 99 str, and i was getting(literally a level of strength a day at lvl 95-99 str.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

someone gave me an estimate of the exp for 100 pc points, 45k(melee exp for getting 50+damage) for 100 points, and i believe my max amount of pc points in a day was like 700 and an average of 400-500 daily at this time

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

165k exp for 100 points @ lvl 95

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(165 + 45k)* 4= 840k exp a day...

 

 

 

in 1 skill. i would really like you to tell me some1 can get that much exp @ bandit in a day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now ill compose a lil equation of the max exp i got in a single day(could have been more could have been less.) at this point i was using a whip instead of a scimitar, so i raised the 45k exp to 50k

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(176k + 50k exp)*7 =1582k exp that day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

it was no real suprise i was getting nearly 2mil exp each day, i checked my 99 str pic. i took it on july 2nd this year and its the end of october. i was 90 str before i started doing pc and it was about 2 weeks til i got 99 str from it. as you can tell from my sig ive since then given up doing pc for my exp, or else id have 99 def and probably 90 prayer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now the reason i said all this was to tell you, theirs no way to compete with the exp pc gives.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also, bandits are probably less lonely and boring the pc, is soo many cases ive stopped talkin nearly as much and hurridley typed messages with horrific spelling errors because i HAD to get my damage done games are just that fast some times. @ bandits u can do whatever u want and you dont actually do much, you can talk to literally all of your friends without any restriction of having to attack stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

edit: also, basically any kind of calculations of such things like the road to 99 prayer, id go with odd's decision that your slightly off. because, well hes not 1 of the better players of this game by accident. this games about #'s and time and how to manage your time $ and exp.

 

 

Nice calculations. Pest control is made easy because you don't really need anything except yourself an armor. It has made high lvls way too common, and I'm disgusted at the amount of lvl 120's who still behave like complete noobs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Back in rs1, 100 combat was very good to see, and 110 + was extraordinary. Now however, people can max in a few mere months, I can't stand it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess in the end Jagex gave in to the constant complaints of 7 year olds who thought the game was too tough :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't agree, PC is a great way of getting xp and making new friends, and I am prob alot older than most Runescape players, I recently joined Affliction too, and it makes training more fun, how can you say it's a bad thing when you can sit at bandit camp for 2 weeks and level just as quick but be lonely and boring?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pc has made combat soo much easier

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you dont level nearly as quick @ bandits(i dont like bandit training either but still) as you do with pc i believe that pc has actually become the new way of complain about rsc to rs2 products, seriously... pc has gapped the bridge from rsc and rs2 products, to now pc products.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i was playing some hardcore pest control when gettin 99 str, and i was getting(literally a level of strength a day at lvl 95-99 str.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

someone gave me an estimate of the exp for 100 pc points, 45k(melee exp for getting 50+damage) for 100 points, and i believe my max amount of pc points in a day was like 700 and an average of 400-500 daily at this time

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

700 a day!!!!!! ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats 14hrs minimum of playing runescape and solid winning at pest, yeah pest control would be pretty benificial, but the averege RS player would get around 100 points a day maybe a few more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even if you get 500 points your still looking at 10 solid hours of doing pest control, if your dedicated enough to do it then why can't you get the rewards?

yup i do agree im slightly off because it is too time consuming to actually do the exact calculation for everything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the guy who said it is possible to get 60 points per hour, yea i can believe that BUT can u consistently do it ? Especially with all the lvl 60s and 70s around and the friends of friends of friends of your pc team all coming :D

I would reccomend buying D bones instead it's way quicker sure expensive but prayer is supposed to be an expensive skill.

 

 

 

700 a day!!!!!! ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats 14hrs minimum of playing runescape and solid winning at pest, yeah pest control would be pretty benificial, but the averege RS player would get around 100 points a day maybe a few more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even if you get 500 points your still looking at 10 solid hours of doing pest control, if your dedicated enough to do it then why can't you get the rewards?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

700 i did once i believe...i think that was nearer to the end of lvl 97 str. and at that time, heart returns was hopping worlds often and i mean ALOT, i was doing this much pc very quickly, @ 118 combat i had a hard time getting 50 damage on the yellow portal in 30 seconds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

definately was a point where 100 points every hour and a half was common if not slow... im not sure exactly but it wasnt a minute for 1 game usually, if games started going over a minute, we hopped. unlike how it is now.

i did 99 prayer at pc, with money i bought bones and ran them to altar, from pc reward speeds it up a few hundred points every 600 or so..its worth it and fast

i did 99 prayer at pc, with money i bought bones and ran them to altar, from pc reward speeds it up a few hundred points every 600 or so..its worth it and fast

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yea smelly, i see you at pc often. ive noticed you tend to follow around heartreturns for some time now. 99 prayer tho congrats. prayer is a [bleep].

why is this topic moved to help & advice?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im not looking for either..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is discussing on which way to 99 prayer is better..

Your title is a question, its asking for both help and advice.

Awesome topic !!! I am at my wits here on what to do to get me to 99

 

 

 

prayer. Do I keep buying my bones like I have been doing or should I

 

 

 

try PC? ( BTW: I really get bored there ) I am like 400k away from 95 prayer

 

 

 

and after reading this topic it is making me decide to do at least some Pc'ing

 

 

 

to get to my goal.

 

 

 

Buying bones and using my altar is of course faster but the money needed

 

 

 

to buy bones is insane. After seeing this post I am starting to

 

 

 

think Pc might be best for me. Thanks for this post is was not only

 

 

 

helpful but interesting to read. :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If anyone wants to P.M. me to give me some advice on what to do please

 

 

 

feel free cause I am stumped on what to do.

if u can afford it, i suggest u buying it up.. may cost alot but the time saved could probably earn you back quite most if not all of it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

or you could do what the other guy did.. PC a little bit , then buy some bones..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I donnoe how much can you actually afford but im sure that if you sell out some of your rubbish ( not exactly rubbish but things that you dont need .. d square etc ) you would be able to raise

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, judging by your stats, DONT PC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Although price of whips had been falling and stilling falling , it is still a decent source of money and wouldnt take too long for you to earn money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So i think you should kill some abby demons and get some whips or wait til jagex release the drop for the dark beast lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

btw i would prefer it if this topic could be moved back to P2P Discussion because i used the topic to set people thinking and is not asking for help or something lol

Yes you have some good advice there. I think I may just continue buying

 

 

 

and like you said sell some of my rubbish items off. :wink:

 

 

 

BTW: I think this topic was moved cause of the title? It does fall

 

 

 

in between help and advice and discussion. :?

 

 

 

Any hoot thank's for the advice, appreciate it. And again nice post

 

 

 

I enjoyed reading it.

I read your post, very good idea with the pray xp and the PC points. Another idea perhaps.

 

 

 

Get 1k points, buy 100 herb packs.

 

 

 

You get on average say... 3 rannar per pack.

 

 

 

So thats 300 rannar for 1k points

 

 

 

300 rannar = 300 pray pots.

 

 

 

300 pray pots = 2.4mil I believe

 

 

 

Therefore 1k points = 2.4mil cash + the cash you got from getting the points + the combat xp from getting the points.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you had a total of 16500 pc points

 

 

 

300 pray pots for 1k points

 

 

 

3000 pray pots for 10k points

 

 

 

4950 pray pots for 16.5k points

 

 

 

= 4950 pray pots x 8k each

 

 

 

= 39.6Mil coins + the cash you got from getting the 16.5k points + the combat xp you got from getting the points

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, that is a lot of bones and combat xp

 

 

 

D bones being 2.2k cash each on average

 

 

 

39.6Mil cash = 18k d bones

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

'Nuff said

 

 

 

*Runs off to Pest Control after doing calculations*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Blue_star67~

Seems that I'm one of the few to think PC is a waste of time since I'll get 99's all around before I ever get 99 slayer.

I hate pc but you have to admit it that it is the FASTEST exp for attack , def , str , hits , range , mage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Especially for mage and range ( range is slow unless you cannon while mage is expensive in most circumstances)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, the reason why i used the tittle is to set people thinking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However if the title is the sole reason why this is moved here , i am willing to change my tittle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and ty for all comments ( especially those positive ones )

I agree with oddfaery2 if you are a real runescape allrounder and not a pure combatter you are way better of doing combat with slayer only.

 

 

 

4 exp in any given combat skill (att, str, def or range) will get you 1 slayer exp. So 99 slayer = 99 for all those 4 skills as well...

 

 

 

Most people have already trained combat before they start slayer, so you can do some mage for slayer as well...

 

 

 

99 slayer gets you about 17.5 mill hitpoints exp as well.

 

 

 

So good luck to all of you in pest control. If I ever do it, it will be after 99 slayer and all exp will go to prayer, which I estimate will be at least be lvl 75 to 80 at that time just from doing slayer tasks.

 

 

 

Now at slayer 88 I have at least 50 mill profit on slayer, but I do all lvl 3 clues as soon as I get them.

 

 

 

Without clues it is "only" 40 mill profit.

 

 

 

I estimate 20k natures, 160k fires, 20k water and 20k earth, 4k bloods, 10k deaths, 15k chaos and many more runes are part of the drops i got so far. If I do this times 3 (to get to 99 slayer), I can get 7.5 mill mage exp with just using the drops from slayer in whatever way I think best.

 

 

 

I have to say that I even did not get any abbyssal demons assignment, because those whimpy slayer masters think that someone with combat below 100 is not strong enough! So add abyssals into the equation and the message is clear, 99 slayer will maybe take you a year to get but your combat will be maxed out and you will have the cash to buy any prayer lvl.