Love- a few ideas...

[issy2]

My first question...

 

 

 

Do we love our families for who they are? Or what they do for us? Or because they are just there - when we need them?

 

 

 

That sounds kinda hard to explain, so I will give an example.

 

 

 

Hm ok. Imagine your mum is actually your friends mum, and your friends mum is actually your mum. (Personality swap...:lol:) Would you love your new mum, because she's a nice person and society teaches us to love our mums? Or because she is the helpful one, who puts the washing on and makes supper 4 times a week?

 

 

 

Or would you love your friend's mum, because she has a nice personality? Would you tell her you love her every day and hug and kiss her? I think not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My second question...

 

 

 

I think society is really, really starting to undermine the words 'I love you.' It's as if it doesn't have a meaning anymore. For Instance, my friend (who's name I will not reveal...lol) started secondary school and has started 'going out' with since the beginning of term (6-7 weeks and 2 half-term weeks ago) with someone in her year. She says 'I love you' to him. She's known him less than 3 months, and they're in separate classes. She's gone out with him about three times, but she says she loves him. Sorry I just don't think it's enough time to really know someone and she doesn't seem sincere. It's the same thing with crushes... have a crush on someone because they're pretty, without really getting to know them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My third question...

 

 

 

How long do you think it takes to get to know someone properly? Do you believe in love at first sight?

 

 

 

I don't. You can read it in books, though, and in films, and on the TV... 'and I knew at once you were the one for me!!! I love you! I love you! I love you! Don't leave me!!!!! It was love at first sight!!! You're so beautiful!'

 

 

 

And so on... but that probably came out slightly sarcastic. (Not that it was meant to.... obviously... : )

 

 

 

Can you love someone, then hate them, get to know them better? Is it all first impressions?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So what is love, in our society, because it doesn't seem to be what I used to call 'true love'... not that I actually believed in true love as a concept... but nevermind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your thoughts please, on love in general? What does ' I love you' mean to you?

[Striker6]

Love is just lust between a man and a woman, I don't think it goes deeper than that. However the love a man has for his God, now that is true love. There is nothing that runs deeper than that.

[BlueLancer]

 

 

 

Or would you love your friend's mum, because she has a nice personality? Would you tell her you love her every day and hug and kiss her? I think not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, because it's psychological. Since birth you learn to trust your 'mother', let's say the swap had already taken place just after the babies were born, they could have a hard time accepting their "real mother" as their own.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your thoughts please, on love in general? What does ' I love you' mean to you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing. I try to avoid that phrase now, it's so inflated and overrused in movies, media, by people, everywhere... I try to word it differently. It's as if my ear is being stung by needles when I hear it being used for almost no reason at all, it's becoming like the phrase "I promise".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Love is just lust between a man and a woman, I don't think it goes deeper than that. However the love a man has for his God, now that is true love. There is nothing that runs deeper than that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It depends on how you define love, itself it's just a word that describes the hormonal changes in your brain when you like another person. A God on the other hand you have never met and have no idea if he exists.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(From a factual viewpoint, nothing wrong if you're spiritual) but you can still 'love' him, which just proves it's all up in the brain. Your ancestors possibly worshipped a god carved to a rock, and they could still love it, today we'd just ridicule it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That leads me to think we could be in love with an "idea". Not just the qualities of the other person but a mystified picture of him/her that eventually, after years, starts to fade. Though, not always. There are also some people who have been married for 40 years happily.

[petey]

i've been told im idiotic for saying im in love with somebody. not nice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i've known her for 4 years ish, best friends for 1 year, liked her "like that" since I met her, and im 14. I have thought it through thoroughly, and i think i do love her. she never leaves my thoughts, ive been in a few fights for her, and i hate to see her with any other guy :S, i think if it came to it, id take a bullet for her. she's special.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

flame all you want, there is such love before your an "adult".

[killersushipunk]

Love is just lust between a man and a woman

 

 

 

No, it is between 2 people. Any 2 people.

[Anesthesia]

However the love a man has for his God, now that is true love.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's nothing compared to the love a man has for a good bacon sandwich.

[Viktorkrum77]

Love is just lust between a man and a woman, I don't think it goes deeper than that. However the love a man has for his God, now that is true love. There is nothing that runs deeper than that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, KillerSushiPunk beat me to it, but yeah. Love is between any two people, regardless of sex, race, age (even though that can get a bit extreme), statis, etc...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And it does go deeper, extremely deeper. Love for one another is much deeper than love for 'your God'. Compassion for someone else is the highest form of passion that exists, when it is 'true love' or real love, there is nothing deeper.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It can be debated that love even goes deeper than survival instincts.

[darkmage099]

 

Love is just lust between a man and a woman

 

 

 

No, it is between 2 people. Any 2 people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And you're opinoin is better than his because.....?

[Faux]

True love? It's something a man and a woman feel when they take their admiration with each other to another level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But then there's the sort of love you feel for your friends and your family.

[knives669]

To me, the words, "I love you" simply means, "I care deeply for you." And you can care for someone in many different ways. Either way, I don't think it's up to someone on the outside of a relationship to criticize whether or not it's appropriate to say, "I love you" to someone, because it's almost impossible to know whether or not the person is saying it with meaning. I am by no means, judging you, Issy. You have the right to your opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting topic, btw.

[Viktorkrum77]

True love? It's something a man and a woman feel when they take their admiration with each other to another level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What makes you think it's only a man and a woman?

[Guest XplsvBam]

i've been told im idiotic for saying im in love with somebody. not nice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i've known her for 4 years ish, best friends for 1 year, liked her "like that" since I met her, and im 14. I have thought it through thoroughly, and i think i do love her. she never leaves my thoughts, ive been in a few fights for her, and i hate to see her with any other guy :S, i think if it came to it, id take a bullet for her. she's special.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

flame all you want, there is such love before your an "adult".

I'll just let you know that your hormones might have something to say about that when you turn 17-18 and realize there are other people in the world besides yourself. (Speaking from experience.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just saying don't let your self love so easy. Its easy to love, its hard to stay in love.

[darkmage099]

 

True love? It's something a man and a woman feel when they take their admiration with each other to another level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What makes you think it's only a man and a woman?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lmao, Viktor.

[Faux]

 

True love? It's something a man and a woman feel when they take their admiration with each other to another level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What makes you think it's only a man and a woman?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm talking about true love, not lust.

[Viktorkrum77]

 

 

True love? It's something a man and a woman feel when they take their admiration with each other to another level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What makes you think it's only a man and a woman?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm talking about true love, not lust.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What, so true love can't be a man and a man or a woman and a woman?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please, there must be a mistake in communication, because I didn't think you were against us in the homosexuality debate. That, and I'm hoping not to start another homosexuality debate.

[Faux]

 

 

 

True love? It's something a man and a woman feel when they take their admiration with each other to another level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What makes you think it's only a man and a woman?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm talking about true love, not lust.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What, so true love can't be a man and a man or a woman and a woman?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please, there must be a mistake in communication, because I didn't think you were against us in the homosexuality debate. That, and I'm hoping not to start another homosexuality debate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whoa man, no, I am not against homosexuals. There's already this thread talking about that. Let's not drag it here.

[deloriagod]

 

 

True love? It's something a man and a woman feel when they take their admiration with each other to another level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What makes you think it's only a man and a woman?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm talking about true love, not lust.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm going to have to side with Viktor on this. Why is it only a man and woman who can feel true love? Why can't two men or two women feel true love?

[bacab]

Mreh... "love", my exboyfriend, back when we were going out, said "I love you" to me, just a few days after we started going out. I didn't want to hurt him and I didn't want to leave that hanging in the air so I just said it back. I didn't mean it, but what other choice did I have?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw, I know he really didn't love me because he only dumped me about a couple of weeks after that. Which was about a week ago.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And love for my family? I really don't have that either.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think I've ever actually experienced love yet. A deep crush, yes, I've felt that. A very deep crush on someone. But I really don't think I've ever actually felt "love" yet. I'm only 17, too young for that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

True love? It's something a man and a woman feel when they take their admiration with each other to another level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What makes you think it's only a man and a woman?

 

 

 

Society. Our crappy society.

[mad4u689]

I think "love" is recognizing the beauty of the connection, the relationship, between you and another person. You might love anyone who you are put in contact with. I think I love fairly easily - I think almost every person I meet is beautiful in some way, and thus I love them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think we cheapen the phrase "I love you" by using it often or early, as long as we mean it when we say it :D

[lawrencekill]

a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person.

 

 

 

(one of many)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/love

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see it applying only to a man and a woman here.

[X_Seismic_X]

My first question...

 

 

 

For Instance, my friend (who's name I will not reveal...lol) started secondary school and has started 'going out' with since the beginning of term (6-7 weeks and 2 half-term weeks ago) with someone in her year. She says 'I love you' to him. She's known him less than 3 months, and they're in separate classes. She's gone out with him about three times, but she says she loves him. Sorry I just don't think it's enough time to really know someone and she doesn't seem sincere. It's the same thing with crushes... have a crush on someone because they're pretty, without really getting to know them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I too dislike this, I've seen it more and more in my school, it's just ridiculous. I found out recently to prevent these meaningless relationships, a primary school in my area banned people having boyfriends/girlfriends, although I'm not sure if this is a step too far.

[Faux]

I don't see it applying only to a man and a woman here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your thoughts please, on love in general? What does ' I love you' mean to you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Society. Our crappy society.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good thing I didn't grow up in your society.

[michiel2]

I think I love my mother because.. she's there. She created me. Then you just love her, if she's a bad mother or not, you just love her.

[Striker6]

There are also some people who have been married for 40 years happily.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes I agree some people can be happily married for over 40 years. However, how many marriages end through lust, I don't know the statistic but I think it's something like 1/3 marriages don't work out. I think the rest only remain married because by that time they have had children and want to stay together for the sake of them. I know it is very pessimistic of me but that's my opinion.

[BlueLancer]

 

There are also some people who have been married for 40 years happily.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes I agree some people can be happily married for over 40 years. However, how many marriages end through lust, I don't know the statistic but I think it's something like 1/3 marriages don't work out. I think the rest only remain married because by that time they have had children and want to stay together for the sake of them. I know it is very pessimistic of me but that's my opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just wrote that for the sake of sounding balanced and giving hope, you may want to view the official statistics in the United States, also here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Percentage of married people who reach their 5th, 10th, and 15th anniversaries:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5th: 82%

 

 

 

10th: 65%

 

 

 

15th: 52%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Percentage of married people who reach their 25th, 35th, and 50th anniversaries:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

25th: 33%

 

 

 

35th: 20%

 

 

 

50th: 5%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Almost everybody in USA will be divorced in one phase of their life or another. People simply fail to realize when they get married that nothing is going to stay "perfect", things change both in your home, your head, in the world, which leads to divorce.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Which may lead one to think that you could live a perfectly happy life, even with another person, without "marriage" unless you're a part of the minority that stays together for "all their lives" as promised in the wedding.