Grasle Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Alrigh, I'm posting this on my Nintendo Wii, so I can't type much. Do you think someone with: 50 prayer 70 range 70 hp 65 defense can do it? init helm unholy symbol init body init legs c bow blk vambs white boots if I'm average on switching and not too nervous can I do it? I'm seeing so many posts by lvl 100+ who failed with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0013d Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I failed 5 attempts all at Jad's healers :cry: I have 75 def and they hit through it like knife through butter :x :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 Alrigh, I'm posting this on my Nintendo Wii, so I can't type much. Do you think someone with: 50 prayer 70 range 70 hp 65 defense can do it? init helm unholy symbol init body init legs c bow blk vambs white boots if I'm average on switching and not too nervous can I do it? I'm seeing so many posts by lvl 100+ who failed with this Read the FAQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasle Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Do you think I could bring a whip or something for certain parts like the beginning? And also to hide behind the "Italy Boot" to kill healers...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodfleshX Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Does armour or prayer bonus matter more? If I was to take one C Bow and an X Bow how many Bolt Racks should I bring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude_of_war4 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 would it be possible to do a guide but not on videos? because i cant work the raidshare and megaupload :cry: otherwise, insane guide dude! 11/10 click my sig for my blog!!!Thanks everyone for the sigs they pwn!No. Why should i give presents for someone in rs?Most selfish thing I've ever heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Does armour or prayer bonus matter more? If I was to take one C Bow and an X Bow how many Bolt Racks should I bring? Prayer; 2-3k bolts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0013d Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 the healers always get me for some reason(7 times in a row they always seens to land high hits), am I just unlucky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 the healers always get me for some reason(7 times in a row they always seens to land high hits), am I just unlucky? They won't hit much if you have high defence (both from armor and your stat) and only have one healer on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymouse_ Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Would it be better to use rune arrows + ava's accumulator on jad or just stick with cbow, even though it's much slower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutchdown Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 I just got my firecape, after a couple weeks of non stop tries thanks to techniques presented by Muggiwhplar. I thought I might toss out a few thoughts that I had for anyone in my similar skill level to help them out. First off, thoroughly understand this map from muggi's low defense guide All monsters, including Jad follow this spawn pattern. So when you get to difficult levels, ie 180 and a 90, or 360 and a 90. You better be parked in the NE corner utilizing the italy rock. About 80% of the time, if you are in the safe spot and wait for 30 seconds the monsters will get trapped below the italy rock. 10% of the time they will spawn in the blue spot (middle) and will walk to your safe spot. Not much to do here, if it is a 180 run to the south side of the italy rock and he will get trapped on the west side. The other 10% of the time they will spawn in the red spot (NW Corner) If it is a monster you want to face last run to the south side of the italy rock and they will be trapped on the north side. Some quick hits: - If you have Guthans, wear the plate and skirt while ranging the 90's, they hit a lot less than if you were wearing your black d hide. - If you are doing the double crystal bow method, learn about how many 360's you can kill before it degrades (probably between 2-4, depending on your range) then you can plan when to switch to your low bow for the degrade. - I suggest using Prayer pots over Sup Restore pots if you can, they cost less, and if you are 38 herblore, you can make them yourself, at least recouping some herblore xp for the cost of a Ranarr. At 60 prayer, i always had plenty of prayer pot left over. JAD: - Realize that the first couple of times that you see Jad, you are likely going to die. Knowing this ahead of time will keep you from jumping off a cliff. Your prayer switching practice is nice, but it doesnt replace the real thing. - If you get hit for about 50 by Jad because of a bad prayer switch, dont freak out, if you remain calm you can recover. - When you first get to Jad, do nothing but watch his feet and switch prayers, even if you don't attack him for a few rounds. Calming yourself, and getting used to the rhythm of the prayer switching is more important than hitting him right away. - Don't freak out when the healers come, stay in your prayer switching rhythm, and after a switch calmly click a healer for an attack; also, make sure auto retaliate is off for the healers (I left it off the whole Jad sequence which requires you to right click and reattack Jad after every prayer switch and potion drink) - I wouldn't bother going to a safe spot to deal with the healers, as long as you have some Sara left and plenty of prayer, the healers wont kill you. - You only have time for one event between Jad's attacks, so plan ahead, and right click a healer, or drink a prayer pot, or drink a sara in between his attacks, always bring the prayer screen back up, and always hovering over the opposite prayer protection (IE Mage, if you have Range on) - For me, it seemed like the time to remove Jad's 2nd half of health took twice as long as the first half, probably not, but don't freak out if it feels like it is taking too long, focus on the prayer switch and keep nailing him. - Definitely use Steel skin with the healers, as they hit a lot less with it on, and you will have plenty of prayer drinks left. That is all I can think of at the moment, sorry to invade the thread, but I thought, some of the mistakes I have made might help future capers. If you have any questions for a guy of my stats, 93 CMB, ask away as I check tip.it quite often. Have fun in the caves. Hutchdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugafan_2009 Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Do you recommend doing eagle eye or is it a waste of prayer? Quit RS, combat 104, total 1651 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutchdown Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Do you recommend doing eagle eye or is it a waste of prayer? Personally, anything that requires me to be distracted from Jad, I am against. The eagle eye will require you to drink prayer restores more often and could lead to a bad prayer switch. I didn't have it on, but it might make you kill him faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure_Skillse Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 the vids arent working on my comp can u put them on youtube please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMjE Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 amazing guide! null and void Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 Do you recommend doing eagle eye or is it a waste of prayer? Only use it on Jad, if you've got a surplus of super restores (~4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saukko93 Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Awesome guide. I made it all the way to 53th wave, then I totally forgot prayer - I was chatting with my friend. 45 from 360, dose of super restore, pray on... 14 from 360. Well, another try tomorrow :). Im quite impressed that I made it to 53th wave. Barrows drops: 17 - Ahrims staff x 2, Guthans platebody x 2, Dharoks greataxe, Dharoks platelegs, Karils leathercoif x 2, Veracs flail, Ahrims robeskirt x 3, Guthans warspear, Karils leatherskirt, Karils leathertop, Torags hammers x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_5c1m_pwnz Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 am i able to use a 2/10 crystal bow???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 am i able to use a 2/10 crystal bow???? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_5c1m_pwnz Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 omg what if i brought melee and used the bow on jad? :pray: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4tty Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 you might wanna add god stole to the list inbetween fury and unholy symbol =) (+10 prayer, basically an upgraded god-symbol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojann2 Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 am i able to use a 2/10 crystal bow???? No Not even Close, Lol Knowledge Talks| | Wisdom Listens~~Heroes Get Remembered, But Legends Never Die~~Xbox Live & Playstation Network Name: Trojann2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 omg what if i brought melee and used the bow on jad? :pray: Then you might as well melee all the way with a hally - you'd need 90+ att and str Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbellz Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Hey, in the AOW you forgot to put the god cloak under the second best cloak. :P (Oh, I'll be using your guide later today) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saukko93 Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Lol jad owned me. I cant switch those prayers :D. First 25, then 56 :> Barrows drops: 17 - Ahrims staff x 2, Guthans platebody x 2, Dharoks greataxe, Dharoks platelegs, Karils leathercoif x 2, Veracs flail, Ahrims robeskirt x 3, Guthans warspear, Karils leatherskirt, Karils leathertop, Torags hammers x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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