deloriagod Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 let him just kiddin like i tell all suicide threads ~suicide is a permanet solution to a temporary problem That's not even funny. Ever. I don't see how people can joke around when we're on a topic like this.. Though I must say, the last saying in his post is quite true. Internet Marketing For Newbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockEynfish Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 Your best friend is thinking about killing himself what do you do? you go to real help and not post it on a runescape fan site. Shut up. :evil: Some people on here really do help. I just don't feel comfertable going to his parents/anyone else because this probably is just another attention seeking act. You know, I doubt he'd do it. He has everything he wants too. A nice house, rich family, a great girlfriend, it's his stupid attitude that he walks around with. A big "[bleep] you" to the world. :notalk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I don't see how people can discriminate against suicidal people on this thread. Suicidal people aren't "bad", they're just going through some bad times or don't know what to do with themselves. My advice to you is to get him more socially active. Invite him to dances, hangouts, etc. Make sure he knows that you ARE THERE FOR HIM no matter what. Love and nurture him. Now. I'm serious. Right now, as you're reading this, go call him up and comfort him. As a last note: Listen to deloriagod for some really good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I also don't see the horrid discrimination against suicidal people on this thread. Suicidal people aren't "bad", they're just going through some bad times or don't know what to do with themselves. My advice to you is to get him more socially active. Invite him to dances, hangouts, etc. Make sure he knows that you ARE THERE FOR HIM no matter what. Love and nurture him. Now. I'm serious. Right now, as you're reading this, go call him up and comfort him. As a last note: Listen to deloriagod. She is bringing up good points. ahahahahahaha :XD:! Tell his family. The worst thing that could happen is this turns out to be more than just an "attention seeking act" and you are left with the guilt. Go to his family, talk to them about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockEynfish Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 He deleted the blog, I haven't talked to him since Friday, but he's done things like this before.. For the attention, I mean. He just wants his girlfriend to "love him more" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I also don't see the horrid discrimination against suicidal people on this thread. Suicidal people aren't "bad", they're just going through some bad times or don't know what to do with themselves. My advice to you is to get him more socially active. Invite him to dances, hangouts, etc. Make sure he knows that you ARE THERE FOR HIM no matter what. Love and nurture him. Now. I'm serious. Right now, as you're reading this, go call him up and comfort him. As a last note: Listen to deloriagod. She is bringing up good points. ahahahahahaha :XD:! Tell his family. The worst thing that could happen is this turns out to be more than just an "attention seeking act" and you are left with the guilt. Go to his family, talk to them about it. That wasn't neccesary. This is a serious topic. Be a bit more respectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I also don't see the horrid discrimination against suicidal people on this thread. Suicidal people aren't "bad", they're just going through some bad times or don't know what to do with themselves. My advice to you is to get him more socially active. Invite him to dances, hangouts, etc. Make sure he knows that you ARE THERE FOR HIM no matter what. Love and nurture him. Now. I'm serious. Right now, as you're reading this, go call him up and comfort him. As a last note: Listen to deloriagod. She is bringing up good points. ahahahahahaha :XD:! Tell his family. The worst thing that could happen is this turns out to be more than just an "attention seeking act" and you are left with the guilt. Go to his family, talk to them about it. That wasn't neccesary. This is a serious topic. Be a bit more respectful. Look at what I bolded. I wasn't laughing at your entire comment, I was laughing that you called Del a girl. I fail to see how i'm "not being respectful"? @ Hock: Go ahead and do what you want, but I still stand by its the best to tell his parrents. Fake or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockEynfish Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 Ohh... I get it now.. Lol @ calling me Hock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I also don't see the horrid discrimination against suicidal people on this thread. Suicidal people aren't "bad", they're just going through some bad times or don't know what to do with themselves. My advice to you is to get him more socially active. Invite him to dances, hangouts, etc. Make sure he knows that you ARE THERE FOR HIM no matter what. Love and nurture him. Now. I'm serious. Right now, as you're reading this, go call him up and comfort him. As a last note: Listen to deloriagod. She is bringing up good points. ahahahahahaha :XD:! Tell his family. The worst thing that could happen is this turns out to be more than just an "attention seeking act" and you are left with the guilt. Go to his family, talk to them about it. That wasn't neccesary. This is a serious topic. Be a bit more respectful. Look at what I bolded. I wasn't laughing at your entire comment, I was laughing that you called Del a girl. I fail to see how i'm "not being respectful"? @ Hock: Go ahead and do what you want, but I still stand by its the best to tell his parrents. Fake or not. Whoopsies......... :oops: Embrarrased. Embrarrased. Embrarrased. Del's a boy?! I'm sorry, don't mean to offend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 He deleted the blog, I haven't talked to him since Friday, but he's done things like this before.. For the attention, I mean. He just wants his girlfriend to "love him more" You know what? Tell him he's a selfish arsehole. People in far, far worse situations than him have put up with life and taken it in stride. It sounds like your friend is just an attention-seeking prat who's insecure about his relationship, is bitter about it, and tries to make everyone miserable as a result. Maybe you should try and find out why he wants to continually reassure himself that his girlfriend loves him rather than just having enough faith in her to not need it. He has an attitude problem, as you've said. Maybe you should have a chat with him or his parents about that. Sure, he's allowed to be miserable, but nothing gives him the right to force the same on everyone else around him. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 He deleted the blog, I haven't talked to him since Friday, but he's done things like this before.. For the attention, I mean. He just wants his girlfriend to "love him more" You know what? Tell him he's a selfish arsehole. People in far, far worse situations than him have put up with life and taken it in stride. It sounds like your friend is just an attention-seeking prat who's insecure about his relationship, is bitter about it, and tries to make everyone miserable as a result. Maybe you should try and find out why he wants to continually reassure himself that his girlfriend loves him rather than just having enough faith in her to not need it. He has an attitude problem, as you've said. Maybe you should have a chat with him or his parents about that. Sure, he's allowed to be miserable, but nothing gives him the right to force the same on everyone else around him. You know what else? How's about being a bit more respectful? Have you ever been through something like this? Do you know what he's feeling? Sure, he shouldn't think like this and he shouldn't do anything drastic, but be a bit more respectufl. He's going through some tough times. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 You know what else? How's about being a bit more respectful? Have you ever been through something like this? Do you know what he's feeling? Sure, he shouldn't think like this and he shouldn't do anything drastic, but be a bit more respectufl. He's going through some tough times. :( Yes, I bloody well have. You know what advice got me through? "Go on, be miserable. Just don't make anyone else feel like crap about it." He's going through some tough times! Oh, that's gold. Hock's said that the kid's got it all. He's bloody well 15. Almost everyone and their dog thinks they're having an absolutely crappy life at 15, for whatever stupid reason. What tough time is he going through? Hock hasn't actually mentioned that anything bad has happened to him recently, besides the fact that he wants attention and for some reason doesn't think his girlfriend loves him enough. No reason anyone should be so blindly sympathetic towards the guy. From what I've read, he doesn't actually have a reason to be depressed. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 So, basically, you're telling me that in no way, shape, or form he's depressed or needs help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 So, basically, you're telling me that in no way, shape, or form he's depressed or needs help? He needs help, if only for the fact that all Hock has said points to a ridiculous attitude problem that needs to be corrected if this kid wants to achieve anything in his lifetime. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 So, basically, you're telling me that in no way, shape, or form he's depressed or needs help? He needs help, if only for the fact that all Hock has said points to a ridiculous attitude problem that needs to be corrected if this kid wants to achieve anything in his lifetime. Well, if this kid had an attitude problem, then I'm sure Hock wouldn't have posted that his friend is suicidal and needs help like that. He would've used different words. YOU see an emo brat who should just shove it. I see a mixed up teen who needs some serious help in a comforting, not brutal way. If he really cuts himself, then he is, indeed, suicidal and depressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Well, if this kid had an attitude problem, then I'm sure Hock wouldn't have posted that his friend is suicidal and needs help like that. He would've used different words. YOU see an emo brat who should just shove it. I see a mixed up teen who needs some serious help in a comforting, not brutal way. If he really cuts himself, then he is, indeed, suicidal and depressed. Shall I make it brutally clear to you? Here: I just don't feel comfertable going to his parents/anyone else because this probably is just another attention seeking act. You know, I doubt he'd do it. He has everything he wants too. A nice house, rich family, a great girlfriend, it's his stupid attitude that he walks around with. A big "[bleep] you" to the world. :notalk: He deleted the blog, I haven't talked to him since Friday, but he's done things like this before.. For the attention, I mean. He just wants his girlfriend to "love him more" That doesn't sound like someone who's suicidal or depressed. That sounds like someone who's making up problems for himself to draw attention. Or perhaps milking the situation for sympathy and possibly sex. It's been done before... Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Well, if this kid had an attitude problem, then I'm sure Hock wouldn't have posted that his friend is suicidal and needs help like that. He would've used different words. YOU see an emo brat who should just shove it. I see a mixed up teen who needs some serious help in a comforting, not brutal way. If he really cuts himself, then he is, indeed, suicidal and depressed. Shall I make it brutally clear to you? Here: I just don't feel comfertable going to his parents/anyone else because this probably is just another attention seeking act. You know, I doubt he'd do it. He has everything he wants too. A nice house, rich family, a great girlfriend, it's his stupid attitude that he walks around with. A big "[bleep] you" to the world. :notalk: He deleted the blog, I haven't talked to him since Friday, but he's done things like this before.. For the attention, I mean. He just wants his girlfriend to "love him more" That doesn't sound like someone who's suicidal or depressed. That sounds like someone who's making up problems for himself to draw attention. Or perhaps milking the situation for sympathy and possibly sex. It's been done before... Perhaps, but problems like this shouldn't be shoved down the suicidal teen's throat. That'll just make him more likely to commit suicide. Perhaps he is a bit spoiled, but that still doesn't exclude him from comforting words and compassion. Who knows, perhaps Hock's wrong, and perhaps he really is serious. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Perhaps, but problems like this shouldn't be shoved down the suicidal teen's throat. That'll just make him more likely to commit suicide. Perhaps he is a bit spoiled, but that still doesn't exclude him from harsh words and insults. :( Mate, if you read it, you should be able to see that he's highly unlikely to actually have problems, let alone kill himself. He thinks he's suicidal in the same way that "gangsta" kids think they're hardcore and oppressed. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Perhaps, but problems like this shouldn't be shoved down the suicidal teen's throat. That'll just make him more likely to commit suicide. Perhaps he is a bit spoiled, but that still doesn't exclude him from harsh words and insults. :( Mate, if you read it, you should be able to see that he's highly unlikely to actually have problems, let alone kill himself. He thinks he's suicidal in the same way that "gangsta" kids think they're hardcore and oppressed. Well, even if he is doing it for attention, should we not comfort him? Offer him comforting words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Well, even if he is doing it for attention, should we not comfort him? Offer him comforting words? That works in the short term, sure. However, it has this bad side-effect of leading him on to believe that if he wants a jolly little ego boost, he can always have a hissy fit and say he's going to kill himself. Hell, the few people who got me out of depression didn't do it by saying nice things and fluffy comforting words. They did it by making me feel like absolute crap, and giving a healthy dose of things to think about on the side. The best thing to do would be to show him that these cries for attention won't get him anywhere. If he wants people to like him, he's got to be likable, not some depressing little sot who's always whinging about something despite not actually having any problems. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage099 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Perhaps, but problems like this shouldn't be shoved down the suicidal teen's throat. That'll just make him more likely to commit suicide. Perhaps he is a bit spoiled, but that still doesn't exclude him from harsh words and insults. :( Mate, if you read it, you should be able to see that he's highly unlikely to actually have problems, let alone kill himself. He thinks he's suicidal in the same way that "gangsta" kids think they're hardcore and oppressed. Well, even if he is doing it for attention, should we not comfort him? Offer him comforting words? No. Ignore him and tell him to go fly a kite. Then one day, he might have an epiphany and realize how dumb he really is. Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan18 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 @zono you know nothing of the circumstances regarding the kid discussed, its more mature and less belligerent to state your point and leave it be. whether or not the kid being discussed is honest about how he feels is irrelevant, the point still stands: do something about it. And both your points (rush and zono) have been made quite clear, theres no point in continuing your petty bickering @OP i think you've seen enough to form a decision on your own, whether it be about your friend, or another friend, that is going through problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 @zono you know nothing of the circumstances regarding the kid discussed, its more mature and less belligerent to state your point and leave it be. whether or not the kid being discussed is honest about how he feels is irrelevant, the point still stands: do something about it. And both your points (rush and zono) have been made quite clear, theres no point in continuing your petty bickering What petty bickering? There was an argument, and there were points discussed. Maybe you should understand that before, you know, not actually contributing anything to the discussion. I know enough of the circumstances, given that the point of the thread was to give Hock some advice, and by default, we actually have to be appraised of the situation. Perhaps you should actually care to read instead of making baseless assertions? What's the point of just stating my argument and leaving it be without any discussion? It's quite clear that I had to clarify some things. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 @zono you know nothing of the circumstances regarding the kid discussed, its more mature and less belligerent to state your point and leave it be. whether or not the kid being discussed is honest about how he feels is irrelevant, the point still stands: do something about it. And both your points (rush and zono) have been made quite clear, theres no point in continuing your petty bickering What petty bickering? There was an argument, and there were points discussed. Maybe you should understand that before, you know, not actually contributing anything to the discussion. I know enough of the circumstances, given that the point of the thread was to give Hock some advice, and by default, we actually have to be appraised of the situation. Perhaps you should actually care to read instead of making baseless assertions? What's the point of just stating my argument and leaving it be without any discussion? It's quite clear that I had to clarify some things. I agree with zono about the argument, but I also agree with stan about the acual discussion at hand. Sometimes, being hostile and cruel to the suicidal teen only makes it worse. Comforting words go a long way, but cruel insults don't always work. It could just scar him for the rest of his life. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I agree with zono about the argument, but I also agree with stan about the acual discussion at hand. Sometimes, being hostile and cruel to the suicidal teen only makes it worse. Comforting words go a long way, but cruel insults don't always work. It could just scar him for the rest of his life. :( And one could just as easily scar him by offering sympathy where none is needed. The fact is that you have to consider what the kid actually needs, rather than what he wants. Also, it would be good to remember that he's probably not even suicidal, according to Hock. I will take his word for it, since he seems to have known this person for long enough to make that sort of judgment. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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