January 5, 200719 yr Hi, let me introduce myself. Mi llamo "kidwithshirt"... lvl 109 (I know i m noob.) 90, 91, 82, 85 mg 91 range. Not so poorish, not so rich. I have guthans. Thats all - I am the first among several my friends that first started doing Barbarian Assualt[will be abbr. into BA from now on]. I m not here to give you repeated information, i m not here to rant about random crap. But here is my impression of BA. ...:::I AM A SEPARATOR:::... Speed [2/10] This is a pain in the [wagon]. By speed i mean the pace of JOINING a game. I counted about 2 hours wasted just by finding a team, as a lvl 3 attacker :oops: i can say its fairly easy for me to find a team. But when i first started, wow. 45 minutes to assemble a team, then our defender on the team have no clue what to do. So we all had to quit the game after 20 minutes into the game (That was on 8th wave). Don't even bother with the random room. All you get is NEWBs. N33b. Most of them dont even bother reading the tutorial, they will just quit in middle of a game. Tip: FIND 4 FRIENDS. Find your friends, that you trust, that is willing to dedicate 30min - 2 hours of their time, doing 10 waves and get to the queen. OR find people with lvl 2+ skill levels, you can bet on those people that they know what they are doing. ...:::I AM A SEPARATOR:::... GamePlay [6/10] a. Fun [8/10] This game is definitely fun. Watching things like t3h floods(Runners. Jagex is so dead, BUNGIE SUE THEM NOW!!!) in Halo getting chopped by a double blade is absolutely fun. Eggers(collectors, or everybody else should i say) can enjoy the egg launcher for sure. Come on guys, shooting random monsters with colorful eggs, isnt that old-school? Attackers? Well maybe its time for those 99 str people to see some new whip high-hits. With the 5+ damage bonus on weapons, 50s are possible(Although prayer is disabled-.-) Healers, well healer aint that exciting but its definitely the easiest things (or hardest, in 10th wave) to do in the game. You just heal people and posion things. Thats all. b. Gameplay Enjoy-a-bility [-10/10] I made the above comments based on a pleasurable game. I have to conclude 50% of my games is filled with NEWBs that dont know how to play. I cant tell you the fact how annoying it is when people dont shout your commands. /-- [side story] One time i recruited 4 player mods, and then they all didnt know what to do. One guy told me "Why am i shouting worms when it says tofu?". Well mr.mod please remember you have to right click the horn to select an option, its NOT automated. --/ Basically, this game is filled with newbs right now, we could expect some improvement in this after a while. c. Gameplay Flaws. [10/10] (Meaning VERY flawed.) [1.] Defender [a] Runners Okay i m speaking for all defenders out there. Come on. Runners are hard(They are not so hard on the queen wave since they just walk up to the blade as their default waypoint. On other levels they tend to walk between the 2 eggers) The food's range? It's horrible, you cant even guarantee the range of a food. Jagex claim lvl 2 defender gets a 5 range food? Well the runner wont even mind if its right next to them. Blades Blades, 2 time use? Then i have to fix it with a hammer and some wood? How do i fix a metal mechanism with wood and a hammer in 5 second? Enough sarcasm. Seriously, 2 uses, maybe try 5. Don't tell me 2 is enough for the last wave. Because 10 runners come to you at the same time and its really hard to get rid of them all with 2 uses. When you try to get the hammer and wood to fix it? The runners are LOOONNNNGGGG gone. Your teamates just watch their 10 points going down the drain. [c] Food I say, the food is laggy. This is sentence contradicts most law of nature, but it is laggy, fo sho. When you lay a track of food, suddenly the bait changes. w00t? They the runners will go BLAUGHG and dashes into the cave. Another 10 points. Gone. [2.] Attacker [a.] Experience. Nada. For all you high-lvl dumbesters out there watching yourself hitting 30s constantly and going wow i m going to get that 99 strength soon! Wrong. You dont get any experience at all. 0. Zero. Nada. No experience points at all. For attackers, you get to waste your barrow armor's durability in order to kill things, you get no experience points at all. You get no experience. Dont expect a miraculous deed. [b.] Damage bonus Jagex, maybe try like 10 damage bonus for lvl 5 instead of 5 damage bonus? Since we get no exp at all, 5 bonus damage isnt that much. [c.] "Attacker Failed Attacks" For you paranoid people going w00t why t3h h3ll 4m 1 0n1y g3tt1ng 0 points f0 this game? Blame it on your attackers(No actually, dont.) If you look into the detailed game summary, you see the attacker "failed attacks". After some observation, that bascially means the time they hit 0's. Now normally, if they are on the RIGHT attack mode (aggressive, control...), they will hit more than 0 because of the bonus. (I m a genius \ ) But onto the real problem, you cannot guarantee the right hit all the time, because when the attacks change, you cannot make sure you stop attacking instantly. That means you have to hit a lot of 0's. Plus the collector wont tell you the new attack mode ASAP, that means for 10 seconds you are left with no ability to attack back. No here's the thing, for me i would just take out my d scimitar (Drop the whip Scotty), and try every mode. One will work eventually. But if you do that. Well you can just watch your team's points go down. My suggestion?Eliminate this scoring - [3.] Healer/Collector I have to say healer and collector have a great system. They dont really do that much. So yeah. As long as your level is high enough (100+) with good armor (280+ defense), you are all set. For all you lvl 60- complaining out there. Sorry bros, this is not a game for low levels :ohnoes: [4.] Misc Bugs/Rants a. Big Horn (Glory Horn?) Wow, this is a piece of foogoo. No kidding, piece of [cabbage]. For you guys dont know what it is, its that big horn in the corner that everyone can use. And you can use it to call out ALL the commands(Not at the same time though) with. So if one of your teammate has brain problem, you can run to this thing and blow it. That's what its suppose to do. When i try to use it, the interface pops up. Then BAM, it disappears! I cannot even tell which option i should press because i dont get enough time (like 2/3 of a second) But if you realize this, after i successfully use it. My GAME interface is gone. Like when you are in a random event(Mime.) You dont get to use your inventory. I m only left with the friend button, and the logout button. Its bugged alright. Kids, avoid this like SARS. b. Player caused issue. A game could end ASAP when someone exits. So all the work you done in a wave is wasted. This is not fair. To change this? You should be able to change job inside a game, if someone quits. You could do the job for them. So you wont have to discard all the precious work you've done. Now sometimes people dont quit on purpose, they lag off, or have a power shortage. So for dial-uppers? Wow, they game gets really laggy. I m not kidding I use to have dial up, and i did the Fight Cave (for fire cape) thing, it didnt lag at all. But this game? It lags. ...:::I AM t3h SEP4R4T0r?:::... Conclusion Overall score: [5/10] Crappy game play, even worse rewards. D chain? Probably a hoax. Look at the other thread of rewards, most people get like rune pickaxe or some arrows. Nothing good at all. 500 points takes hours to get, and the rewards definitely is not worth it. Gamble? No, you are giving your free time to Jagex. Get the granite body if you can. Kill queen + 95k. Its worth it - Noob problem is definitely noticeable. Low levels couldnt even play this game( I would love you to prove me wrong ). Recommended level? 100+. Not kidding. We picked a level 60 attacker one time, wow that was a pain. Watching him dying on the last Peanace fighter when we were all done? Not fun. People dont know how to play this game? Well please read the tutorial. Help save the world, one player at a time. Jagex done a great job at the tutorial things. It's actually very textually/graphically rich. It's no worse than a tipit/runehq guide. Trust me. - Play the game, have fun. You want experience? Go PC, this game is not the experience monster you looking for. But why do i play this game when i could be making millions? This minigame is what a MMORPG all about: Friends. I met so many friends (Mods :-$ ) over the last several hours, and i will be continually meeting new people. It's enjoyable to work with a bunch of people you never met before, to accomplish a task at the same time. ...:::I M ST1LL T3h SEPARATOR:::... I ll end this with a memorable quote by John Nash. Nobel prize winner. "If we all go for the blonde and block each other, not a single one of us is going to get her. So then we go for her friends, but they will all give us the cold shoulder because no on likes to be second choice. But what if none of us goes for the blonde? We won't get in each other's way and we won't insult the other girls. It's the only way to win. It's the only way we all get laid. -John Nash" Thanks for reading this horrible rant.
January 5, 200719 yr i actually played a game with a lvl 66 healer(lvl 5) he wasnt bad, and i only played with him for wave 10.
January 5, 200719 yr Very nice impression. How long does it usually take for you to go through all 10 Waves then? I am still a newb to the game and have only tried out attacker and defender. But will want to try everything out for the experience, then to go for the granite body and other rewards. I enjoyed reading your post. Retired 8th October 2007 | 99 Fishing | 99 Cooking | Owner of a Red Mask and 2 Santa Hats |
January 5, 200719 yr Author Very nice impression. How long does it usually take for you to go through all 10 Waves then? I am still a newb to the game and have only tried out attacker and defender. But will want to try everything out for the experience, then to go for the granite body and other rewards. I enjoyed reading your post. Thanks for enjoying this. I thought i was gonna get flamed horriblely. - Counting out the waiting time, maybe no more than an hour. Queen wave COULD take more than 20 minutes if your defender is horrible. We had to redo the queen wave for 5 times because all the defenders(We boot one in every queen wave we did because they were ALL horrible) were bad. So I became a defender on the queen wave, took one for the team. Got rid of the runner in less than 30 seconds (1 m t3h l337zor?) . If you are with a high lvl team, say 100+. Doesnt take that long. 1 hour max. - Again, find friends when you do it. Because gathering a team takes time.
January 5, 200719 yr It just depends on what team you're on and what position. I was the lowest level on a team of 80+ and I was the collecter but they often thanked me because I was quick to notice the attack change and would shout it out. We died a few times but it was only 7th wave and beyond. my team did die a few times to the queen but once we figured out a plan of action, we were able to win. Of course, this isn't one of my favorites but its a great time waster but even moreso when you're on a good team. Currently Going for...99 firemakingCurrent Progress-76/99
January 5, 200719 yr Author i actually played a game with a lvl 66 healer(lvl 5) he wasnt bad, and i only played with him for wave 10. he must be a sharp lad. Most healers we get never blow their horn. Making defender job very hard.
January 5, 200719 yr Author It just depends on what team you're on and what position. I was the lowest level on a team of 80+ and I was the collecter but they often thanked me because I was quick to notice the attack change and would shout it out. We died a few times but it was only 7th wave and beyond. my team did die a few times to the queen but once we figured out a plan of action, we were able to win. Of course, this isn't one of my favorites but its a great time waster but even moreso when you're on a good team. So agreed. Again i m not saying you HAVE to be 100+ I m just saying normally 100+ player would be the ones reading the guides and knows whats going on. Risking with a low level player? Your choice Do it on the first several waves, usually take lvl 90+ on wave 6+
January 5, 200719 yr i actually played a game with a lvl 66 healer(lvl 5) he wasnt bad, and i only played with him for wave 10. he must be a sharp lad. Most healers we get never blow their horn. Making defender job very hard. yeah, he was good... i make sure i blow my horn as much as possible, but im not gonna say i dont forget time to time. my preferred role so far is healer. mainly because im lvl 3 in it already.
January 6, 200719 yr Someone reported your topic... :| You seem to have a very negative view towards BA. After reading your research, I am having seconds thoughts about even starting this minigame. Such facts as it taking more than 30 minutes to complete one game, finding a good team takes forever, you need to be at least 100 combat, and you don't get any combat experience at all shocked me. By popular demand, this signature is back- however I currently do not have a blog up at the moment and if I did I wouldn't update it. Sorry, the sig links to nowhere :( .
January 6, 200719 yr Someone reported your topic... :| You seem to have a very negative view towards BA. After reading your research, I am having seconds thoughts about even starting this minigame. Such facts as it taking more than 30 minutes to complete one game, finding a good team takes forever, you need to be at least 100 combat, and you don't get any combat experience at all shocked me. as compared to other things for xp, fun, and rewards, it somewhat flops. its basically useless once you get your gloves or torso, and good luck getting a dchain from gamble :? ...
January 6, 200719 yr Author Someone reported your topic... :| You seem to have a very negative view towards BA. After reading your research, I am having seconds thoughts about even starting this minigame. Such facts as it taking more than 30 minutes to complete one game, finding a good team takes forever, you need to be at least 100 combat, and you don't get any combat experience at all shocked me. You know, i m glad my thread is contradictory. Because this game is not perfect. Argument derives opinions, opinions will make improvements. Game does take a while to do. Jagex released this on a hurry, I bet we will be seeing fixes over the week.
January 6, 200719 yr I agree with you on a lot of points, and hwen your collector is too slow with telling the right attack style just kick him. He's doing his job wrong in that case. And the level requirement? Make it 80+. The attacker has to be 100+ though. I beat the queen on my first attempt with a team that consisted of 2 lvl 90+ (me the highest with 98 combat), 2 80+ and a level 76. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks.
January 6, 200719 yr Author I agree with you on a lot of points, and hwen your collector is too slow with telling the right attack style just kick him. He's doing his job wrong in that case. And the level requirement? Make it 80+. The attacker has to be 100+ though. I beat the queen on my first attempt with a team that consisted of 2 lvl 90+ (me the highest with 98 combat), 2 80+ and a level 76. dont you agree you can just shout the message by clicking the horn instead of finding the option and right click? that will make things much better
January 6, 200719 yr You realize if Runescape's average IQ was over 70 this would be a great minigame? Jagex made a damn good minigame that requires teamwork and some intelligence. Which is a huge mistake. I mean really, reading and teamwork is a little too much for the average person here. Supermonk, proving you wrong since 1992. Supermonk rocks, I want to have his children.Music is like candy. You always get rid of the rapper.
January 6, 200719 yr Barbarian Outpost is totalt cool but alot of things you say are wrong (In my opinion that is) I think the game is totaly cool and very intence but i agree it could use a little work... And also where you say healers and collecters dont do anything at all... Thats total BS... Ya the collector may have a easy job but the healers have the hardest job of all, especialy toward the higher waves. Constantly running back and forth while being shouted at can get pretty stressful...And if somebody dies...most of the time you are the one they will blame. Now how do you think that makes them feel?
January 6, 200719 yr Great post. I have put similar hours of game time into it but only as a defender or healer. I found that being a healer was pretty easy until the queen level, but being a defender was rock hard. Most of my games i scored 0 on, particularly in the early rounds as most healers never used their horns so i was generally left to guess work and lots of runners getting through. all the stuff about lag is so true too - especially as the roles change so regularly. The healer is normally too busy to shout out instructions. One of my tactics was to drop a random food on the trap on my way up to the top and destroy the other 2 foods so that i had space for 2 logs+hammer. That way, I could repair the traps quickly. Do you think that the best combination is to have 2 healers? This means that people get regularly healed and the defender has a chance to score points. Best Barrows Chest: guth skirt, dh helm, dh axe, racks, gp (23/08/06); best tt reward: robin, guthix helm, guthix legs, nats, rune legs
January 6, 200719 yr Author Barbarian Outpost is totalt cool but alot of things you say are wrong (In my opinion that is) I think the game is totaly cool and very intence but i agree it could use a little work... And also where you say healers and collecters dont do anything at all... Thats total BS... Ya the collector may have a easy job but the healers have the hardest job of all, especialy toward the higher waves. Constantly running back and forth while being shouted at can get pretty stressful...And if somebody dies...most of the time you are the one they will blame. Now how do you think that makes them feel? i meant to say healer and collectors job are fairly easy comparing to fighter and defender. If you be a defender, you can scratch your entire head off. No kidding
January 6, 200719 yr I agree with you on a lot of points, and hwen your collector is too slow with telling the right attack style just kick him. He's doing his job wrong in that case. And the level requirement? Make it 80+. The attacker has to be 100+ though. I beat the queen on my first attempt with a team that consisted of 2 lvl 90+ (me the highest with 98 combat), 2 80+ and a level 76. dont you agree you can just shout the message by clicking the horn instead of finding the option and right click? that will make things much better Please tell me that's sarcasm. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks.
January 6, 200719 yr Usualy this is what i consist my team of... Attacker - High level (Most of the time me since im a lv 5) Defender- Anyone really could do this...We had a 49 that got us all the way up to the queen. Collecter- Anyone smart (I hate when people forget to yell out the attack commands) Healer x2- Someone with a good def and Hp lv and good judgment You dont really need 2 healers except when you start getten in the higher waves cause boy does it get intence... Hmm i should make a guide on this... i meant to say healer and collectors job are fairly easy comparing to fighter and defender. If you be a defender, you can scratch your entire head off. No kidding I still think healer has the hardest job. Defender has the most stressful job (Cause its so damn hard to get the runners on the trap) but you dont realy need one (Except on the queen wave) since you can kill the runners with the egg cannon. Collecter has an easy job and it helps alot towars the end. Attackers job is plain and simple but requires alot of trust on the collector to yell out the right atks constantly. I understand sometimes you forget but constantly forgetting to call out the atk your supposed to do can sometimes get very annoying.
January 6, 200719 yr Author I agree with you on a lot of points, and hwen your collector is too slow with telling the right attack style just kick him. He's doing his job wrong in that case. And the level requirement? Make it 80+. The attacker has to be 100+ though. I beat the queen on my first attempt with a team that consisted of 2 lvl 90+ (me the highest with 98 combat), 2 80+ and a level 76. dont you agree you can just shout the message by clicking the horn instead of finding the option and right click? that will make things much better Please tell me that's sarcasm. that does make things better....
January 6, 200719 yr Author Great post. I have put similar hours of game time into it but only as a defender or healer. I found that being a healer was pretty easy until the queen level, but being a defender was rock hard. Most of my games i scored 0 on, particularly in the early rounds as most healers never used their horns so i was generally left to guess work and lots of runners getting through. all the stuff about lag is so true too - especially as the roles change so regularly. The healer is normally too busy to shout out instructions. One of my tactics was to drop a random food on the trap on my way up to the top and destroy the other 2 foods so that i had space for 2 logs+hammer. That way, I could repair the traps quickly. Do you think that the best combination is to have 2 healers? This means that people get regularly healed and the defender has a chance to score points. 2 healer or 2 defenders. Never 2 collectors. Because one collector will be just doing nothing.
January 6, 200719 yr Author Usualy this is what i consist my team of... Attacker - High level (Most of the time me since im a lv 5) Defender- Anyone really could do this...We had a 49 that got us all the way up to the queen. Collecter- Anyone smart (I hate when people forget to yell out the attack commands) Healer x2- Someone with a good def and Hp lv and good judgment You dont really need 2 healers except when you start getten in the higher waves cause boy does it get intence... Hmm i should make a guide on this... Lol make the guide. I ll rant it. JK but seriously, it makes people feel better if they are playing with high levels i mean come on, psychological factors plays a huge aspect in this game. I would feel very discourage if i learned my team members are 80-
January 6, 200719 yr Haha thats what i felt untill i made a team that consisted of a... 89 92 49 and 73 (And myself being a 100) But it actualy worked great As long as the healers have 70def and the atker has a high cb lv yur fine I think the only problems with this game are... 1.You cant click the egg cannon if yur under attack...(It was so hard killing the queen because of this) 2.Logging out makes you lose the game...(I got in so much trouble yesterday because my mom was constantly yellen at me to get off the comp midway through every wave...) 3.The point system needs to be fixed...
January 6, 200719 yr Author Haha thats what i felt untill i made a team that consisted of a... 89 92 49 and 73 (And myself being a 100) But it actualy worked great As long as the healers have 70def and the atker has a high cb lv yur fine Lol, true story. Me and a lvl 112 were with a buncha lvl 70s And the 112 were healer and complaining about how the 70s were not giving him the commands. Then he started cursing like a mofo. Actually all the lvl 70s were mods. Dont know what happened to him :-k
January 6, 200719 yr collectors tend to be newbs, but the attacker relies on them to call out styles. They just don't understand the consequences of that.
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