This thing just crossed my mind:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If someone pkes a RC'er he gets flamed like hell. But pkers that kill rune miners doesn't get flamed. At least as far as I know.

 

 

 

Both are normally defenceless..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And you might say that the it is a pain getting the pouches back is the main points - but still - they take 30 mins if you are good enough.

 

 

 

Besides, you lose more if you get pked while rune mining (not many ores needed to be mined for this).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the statement: "He pkes for what? A stupid glory".

 

 

 

When pking a rune miner he normally doesn't wear anything and he isn't skulled at all. So, you don't know what you will get. That's even more pathetic isn't it? Killing him for nothing if you are unlucky..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please post your thoughts..:P

Rune miners normally bring weapons and sometime snow off and bring really good stuff mining and i've see nits numerious times. Its also harder to kill a rune miner because most of them are lvl 3 to 10 or 120+ and there are always pkers out there.

If I'm Mining in the wild Ill always bring some sort of hides and a weapon for defense.

If I'm Mining in the wild Ill always bring some sort of hides and a weapon for defense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would still be owned by a team of pkers quite fast..

It's because most rune miners don't bother with wildy unless they're f2p. There are some quite agreeable alternative options for rune miners today, and when there weren't, well, rune ore was worth so much you couldn't really blame anyone for taking a chance. Even still getting 15 rune ore is worth a good chunk of change, where as you only ever have the possibility to get one glory, and you're bothering people who provide an influx of runes important to many different skills and thus a broader range of people; pretty much everyone needs law runes to get around, for example.

As a rune miner myself I don't mind the pker's at all. I've once been killed there and been attacked hundreds of times. It's not unless a team of ancient mages + melee manage to successfully freeze me in the multi zones around the rocks that I get killed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The thing is, that it's easy to run away (kbd cave not far away = tele zone) and the pkers are usually at the same experience level as the rc pkers. And the rune miners aren't as defenceless as the rcers since we can actually take some armour, food and weapons with us to mine and don't loose untradeable stuff like poutches if we die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Overall, rc pkers and rune pkers are the same in my eyes, they just don't succeed as much when it comes to the rune miners.

 

 

 

rune miners spend more time on training to be able to even start. 85 mining isn't something everyone would bother with when they can start rc'ing almost instantly. Since there are less rune miners and they tend to be more experienced (less noobs who cry about loosing items), there are next to none hate topics on rune pkers.

I personally think it's because there are more RCers than there are Rune Miners, which makes more complaints.

 

If I'm Mining in the wild Ill always bring some sort of hides and a weapon for defense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would still be owned by a team of pkers quite fast..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fortunately though, I've never been attacked by a group since rsc. And even if group did come, hides are the only thing that will help me. Warriors cant stop me, mages can. KBD lair is only a few steps away. Dagger is more for those aggressive miners who think they can kill me because I took their ore.

Rune miners - Normally bring some strong weapon (dragon/whip)

 

 

 

Rcers - Completely undefended

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rune miners - After a trip they are carrying at least 250k worth of rune ore. With armour and weapons this can do up a lot.

 

 

 

Rcers - 100k max (glory)

just a sheer amount less rune miners so hardly any complaints

 

If I'm Mining in the wild Ill always bring some sort of hides and a weapon for defense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would still be owned by a team of pkers quite fast..

 

 

 

Rune rocks are not multi..

 

 

 

But I hate both of 'em.. :wall:

Rune miners are more defended and don't mind that much since they have a shot at killing them while Rcers tend to be in the buff, no armor and weapons since they are skulled.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rune miners tend not to lose much except rune ore. They also have many alternatives. Hero's Guild and dark beasts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rcers don't have a faster or better method then the Abyss. Yes they can run to the General Store and things like that but it takes way longer. Rcers use the Abyss since it the fastest method possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So Rcers tend to be more mad because they aRE defenceless and have no other way to back them off. And they don't even have a glory sometimes. I use house runes (x air, x earth, x laws). So they waste bloods (400ish each) on me for what? 5 house teleports. I find it quite useless to do this unless you like beating on people who can't even defend themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why kill people who have barely anything besides the rags on their bones?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If someone has something logical to say about this, go ahead.

Because there isn't as many of them, more people use the abyss than mine rune. Less pkers will also risk going into the deep wilderness.

If I'm Mining in the wild Ill always bring some sort of hides and a weapon for defense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm no where near level 85 minning, but I am already trying to set up a system with my friends. My theory: you can't attack me if you can't get to me. Basically I get my friends to attack anyone skulled that walks near the mine. And if you do manage to attack and kill me, they're supposed to attack you to get my stuff back. It's really complicated, especially when it comes to world hoping. One day...I'll get there.

 

 

If I'm Mining in the wild Ill always bring some sort of hides and a weapon for defense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would still be owned by a team of pkers quite fast..

 

 

 

Rune rocks are not multi..

 

 

 

But I hate both of 'em.. :wall:

 

 

 

They are...^^

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ON topic again: the rune miner may have a weapon but will hardly have much food to stand against with..So, he will lose his hard earned rune ores quickly..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I agree with earlier mention; maybe it is because the rune miners are more mature than the rcers?

 

 

 

If I'm Mining in the wild Ill always bring some sort of hides and a weapon for defense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would still be owned by a team of pkers quite fast..

 

 

 

Rune rocks are not multi..

 

 

 

But I hate both of 'em.. :wall:

 

 

 

They are...^^

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nope, the area around the rocks is mostly multi, but while mining the rocks themselves you are in single combat zone

my friend wears full mystic whip, and r defender and carries dds, rune pick, about 10 sharks and a super set he always pks someone on the way there whith ancients because he loves pking so ya

 

 

 

rune miners dont get pked as much beacuse the noob rc pkers would get owned

Because there is actually a decent profit to be made? With a RC PK the most you can get is a chance at a glory and copious amounts of ess. With a Rune rock PK, you could earn a fair bit off of the rune ores.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This means its more for actual profit than just being a jerk determined to ruin anothers day

I'm both a rune miner AND an Abyss RCer. My theory is thus:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ever since the beginning of rune mining on RSC, Pkers have risen up to challenge the miners. Due to the popularity of pking, and the fact that there was only one spot to mine rune, I guess many miners knew the risks they were taking, and accepted the consequences (For the most part)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When the abyss was introduced, many RCers abandoned their old methods of reaching the altars to reap the rewards of the speedy route through the wild. Unfortunately, Runecrafting had been a low risk skill prior to the abyss, and being pked was a foreign matter to runecrafters. Also, many RCers didn't expect to be killed in such shallow wilderness. This leads us into the complaints.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another simple way of looking at it is that Rune mining isn't as popular as Abyss RCing today.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's just my take on it, but there could be many other reasons and factors as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Disclaimer: I was not around during RSC

A tip to avoid RC pkers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If they just dds you just use the abyss

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If they freeze you that means that cant teleblock because of anceint book so just telee

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tele block just run seeing they cant freeze you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

only 1 out of about 25 RC pk attemps work anyway

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On a side note if you want to come back and kill the guy who jumped you

Simply, because what RC PKers do is infinatly more pathetic. They sit there in the 'kiddie pool' of the wilderness, hoping to rake in a measly proft.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wheras people in deep wilderness are obviously more courageous; and also, unlike RC PKing, the miner dosen't get away nearly as much as the RCer, since you can't tele out of 40+ wild. Besides, killing a rune miner is almost a guaranteed 150k+ profit.

I think its basically because rune miners are more experienced and mature players than runecrafters. People can start abyss runescrafting very easily whereas it takes a long time to be able to mine rune.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think its pathetic how runecrafters whine and moan about getting pked, and even go to the lengths of organizing groups to protect themselves.

A tip to avoid RC pkers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If they just dds you just use the abyss

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If they freeze you that means that cant teleblock because of anceint book so just telee

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tele block just run seeing they cant freeze you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

only 1 out of about 25 RC pk attemps work anyway

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On a side note if you want to come back and kill the guy who jumped you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They can still snare, normal mages are the most deadly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Only jump them if you don't have a skull, I usually only jump them if they poisoned me and let me die in my house. Which then I come back with my rune and a whip they log out. So sad..

rune mine pkers aren't as hated because far less people mine rune than use the abyss so less people are affected and less people have any reason to care.

 

A tip to avoid RC pkers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If they just dds you just use the abyss

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If they freeze you that means that cant teleblock because of anceint book so just telee

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tele block just run seeing they cant freeze you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

only 1 out of about 25 RC pk attemps work anyway

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On a side note if you want to come back and kill the guy who jumped you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They can still snare, normal mages are the most deadly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Only jump them if you don't have a skull, I usually only jump them if they poisoned me and let me die in my house. Which then I come back with my rune and a whip they log out. So sad..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well yeah of course modern's are more deadly than ancients. But really, the times they have attempted to kill me, I have gotten away easily. If they entangle first I just tele. If they teleblock first I just run to the mage. If they manage to teleblock+snare, I usually get away anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's the tag teams of ancients + modern mages you have to watch out for :shock:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think its basically because rune miners are more experienced and mature players than runecrafters. People can start abyss runescrafting very easily whereas it takes a long time to be able to mine rune.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think its pathetic how runecrafters whine and moan about getting pked, and even go to the lengths of organizing groups to protect themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So what you're basically saying is that since we don't spend 100+ hours training a boring skill in favor of a faster, less-risk moneymaker we're immature? Yes, because of the rather large crowd of nat crafters (approx 100k of them) there are a lot of whiners, but usually those are idiots that can't handle it. That's why at 76 RC I'm ~rank 4500. And I don't whine about it, I rant about it. There's a difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And really organizing a group to protect you isn't taking it too far at all. It shows that you have the maturity to deal with the problem instead of sitting around complaining about it. And BTW, the PKers that sign up for these groups like it; because of how easy the average abyss pker is to kill.