nothing, you know how like everything is just black and time flashes by when you sleep? its the same thing accept for eternity.

What happens when you're alive? Try and predict that one first.

We have to go somewhere after we die, otherwise we have no point and existance is meaningless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw, if you just talk about how it could happen scientifically, that would be athiesm, which counts as a religion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion- (Blank(In this case science and reasoning)) created all that exists, even though we can't prove how.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Discussions like this, which can not be proven, falls into the category of religion, no matter which angle you are going from.

When we die, the people who were good in life go to Heaven. The people who were bad in life go to the Underworld, where they spend their days watching Three's Company... :uhh: :ohnoes: :uhh:

When we die, the people who were good in life go to Heaven. The people who were bad in life go to the Underworld, where they spend their days watching Three's Company... :uhh: :ohnoes: :uhh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aha, You never know... :-k

O well since we can't discuss religion, I wont bother with my views or opposing others.

What happens when you're alive? Try and predict that one first.

 

 

 

ah...yes...we forgot? :lol:

We have to go somewhere after we die, otherwise we have no point and existance is meaningless.

 

 

 

That's circular logic. You're assuming our existence has to have meaning. And you're also assuming without having an after life, existence also has no meaning. Both things that aren't true necessarily. I think you'll find most people believe the point of your existence is to live each day to the fullest, which has nothing to do with any after-life. That mindset is so popular because what if there is no afterlife? You'd have wasted your one shot of consciousness waiting for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw, if you just talk about how it could happen scientifically, that would be athiesm, which counts as a religion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion- (Blank(In this case science and reasoning)) created all that exists, even though we can't prove how.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Two more false statements. You're on a roll now. Atheism isn't a religion. Atheism is just a convenient word that describes someone who has no religion. You're playing on semantics.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And no - religion is not synonymous with science and reason, even if it seems that way to you. If we can't prove religion created all that exists, we can't assume it did.

I think we just go black.

 

 

 

Or, apart from that, we are reincarnated into another human or animal or something.

 

 

 

I dunno.

When you die, you lose all but your 3 most expensive items, and come back to life in Lumbridge. :-w

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, it's my first post here. More to come. :-X

 

We have to go somewhere after we die, otherwise we have no point and existance is meaningless.

 

 

 

That's circular logic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's not circular logic, it's an argument from consequences (argumentum ad consequentiam) :P Either way, it's fallacious.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How would you exist any further.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is a question that calls our anthropological and metaphysical beliefs. If you're a materialist, then of course, we couldn't exist any further. If you're a dualist (material and non-material things exist), then our material body would cease to live, but our non-material, or spiritual, or soul, would continue to exist. Of course, you can be a dualist and believe that humans are purely material beings as well, in which case you would agree with the materialist.

 

What happens when you're alive? Try and predict that one first.

 

 

 

ah...yes...we forgot? :lol:

 

 

 

OK, lay your predictions out for the next few days and see if you're right exactly. Smeghead.

We have to go somewhere after we die, otherwise we have no point and existance is meaningless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw, if you just talk about how it could happen scientifically, that would be athiesm, which counts as a religion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion- (Blank(In this case science and reasoning)) created all that exists, even though we can't prove how.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Discussions like this, which can not be proven, falls into the category of religion, no matter which angle you are going from.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

let me ask you, why are so many people saying stuff about the meaning of life, and without even thinking about it, assume the answer lies after we die?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To me it's obvious the meaning of life is in this life. I make my own meaning in this life anyway, making others happy, world peace, making someting new and useful to humanity and all the other idealistic things. I think my way of life completely justifies me living. I don't need some God, or some book telling me what to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Almost on religion there, but what I said is needed to see why I don't need an afterlife.

 

We have to go somewhere after we die, otherwise we have no point and existance is meaningless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw, if you just talk about how it could happen scientifically, that would be athiesm, which counts as a religion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion- (Blank(In this case science and reasoning)) created all that exists, even though we can't prove how.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Discussions like this, which can not be proven, falls into the category of religion, no matter which angle you are going from.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

let me ask you, why are so many people saying stuff about the meaning of life, and without even thinking about it, assume the answer lies after we die?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To me it's obvious the meaning of life is in this life. I make my own meaning in this life anyway, making others happy, world peace, making someting new and useful to humanity and all the other idealistic things. I think my way of life completely justifies me living. I don't need some God, or some book telling me what to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Almost on religion there, but what I said is needed to see why I don't need an afterlife.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

first of all, we can prove how. look at the world around you. do you think evolution somehow brought us here?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

second, you're forgetting something, Soul. there is a soul and you can't leave that out. a soul means that, after our brain shuts out, there is something more. nothing here has gotten to that, only once you die will you really know what death is. humans are (just to put it kindly) stupid. (i'm sorry if this is bringing religion in, but, i wanna know how you atheists can possibly live without any religion...) humans can't comprehend everlasting things. nothing is everlasting until you die. we can say something we can't comprehend and believe it, but we can't know anything without faith.

 

We have to go somewhere after we die, otherwise we have no point and existance is meaningless.

 

 

 

That's circular logic. You're assuming our existence has to have meaning. And you're also assuming without having an after life, existence also has no meaning. Both things that aren't true necessarily. I think you'll find most people believe the point of your existence is to live each day to the fullest, which has nothing to do with any after-life. That mindset is so popular because what if there is no afterlife? You'd have wasted your one shot of consciousness waiting for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, I didn't mean to state that existance has a meaning, just meant to point out that I like to lean toward existance having a meaning than existance having no meaning

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw, if you just talk about how it could happen scientifically, that would be athiesm, which counts as a religion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion- (Blank(In this case science and reasoning)) created all that exists, even though we can't prove how.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Two more false statements. You're on a roll now. Atheism isn't a religion. Atheism is just a convenient word that describes someone who has no religion. You're playing on semantics.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And no - religion is not synonymous with science and reason, even if it seems that way to you. If we can't prove religion created all that exists, we can't assume it did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, the word you are thinking of is agnosticism(Having no religion, but doesn't discount any religion because any of them could be possible), thats what I am, Athiesm believes in no other religion and puts everything in scientific and logical terms, thats a common mistake though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We can not prove science and reasoning created all that exists, thus athiesm is as plausible as any other religion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

let me ask you, why are so many people saying stuff about the meaning of life, and without even thinking about it, assume the answer lies after we die?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To me it's obvious the meaning of life is in this life. I make my own meaning in this life anyway, making others happy, world peace, making someting new and useful to humanity and all the other idealistic things. I think my way of life completely justifies me living. I don't need some God, or some book telling me what to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Almost on religion there, but what I said is needed to see why I don't need an afterlife.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do not assume the answer lies within death, though without an afterlife, it would sorta disprove our meaning, I find it hard to believe that after all the work we do and the knowledge and wisdom we gain, we just disappear from all existance when we die, if it does happen, all that would have been for nothing and life would have no meaning in the end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course thats nice and all with your belief, and you could be right, but really if we have no afterlife and all humanity and all we have done gets destroyed, we would have no meaning in the end.

I don't see why mods care so much if we talk about religion. I mean I know there have been a lot of topics about it.. but.. who cares?

Having lived in a house that has been home to 2 ghosts in my lifetime, I'm pretty confident that death isn't "The End."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How do you know for sure they are ghosts? Currently there has been no evidence shown for the existence of ghosts and prizes of over $1 million are being offered to anybody who has the slightest proof. Nobody has been able to yet show any kind of proof. It would be interesting to hear from you so I can understand your view too. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

first of all, we can prove how. look at the world around you. do you think evolution somehow brought us here?

 

 

 

Yeah.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

second, you're forgetting something, Soul. there is a soul and you can't leave that out.

 

 

 

Oh, ok. Thanks for the clarification. Didn't know for sure those existed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We can not prove science and reasoning created all that exists, thus athiesm is as plausible as any other religion.

 

 

 

I still disagree that atheism is a religion. Science and reasoning can prove how existence came to be. We just haven't used those tools to find out yet. If anything finds the answer, it'll be through science. Science doesn't discount religion. The thing is nothing about religion so far is scientific. We just are unable to use science to prove or disprove it - that doesn't make religion unscientific since we don't know.

I don't see why mods care so much if we talk about religion. I mean I know there have been a lot of topics about it.. but.. who cares?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its because it normally leads to flame wars, too many people believe in different things and all think that they are undoubtedly right in what they believe, but no one has any proof to back up their statements, thus all the debates, arguements, and flaming have no point and we still stay where we started at.

thus all the debates, arguements, and flaming have no point and we still stay where we started at.

 

 

 

Yeah, that's also known as a Message Board.

There has been photos taken of 'ghosts', but I don't if there real

 

 

 

 

We can not prove science and reasoning created all that exists, thus athiesm is as plausible as any other religion.

 

 

 

I still disagree that atheism is a religion. Science and reasoning can prove how existence came to be. We just haven't used those tools to find out yet. If anything finds the answer, it'll be through science. Science doesn't discount religion. The thing is nothing about religion so far is scientific. We just are unable to use science to prove or disprove it - that doesn't make religion unscientific since we don't know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But, if science and reason was created alongside our existance, they do not necessarily point to the truth of our creation, because whatever created us wouldn't have had to go by the same rules as what it creates.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Think of it this way, put yourself in the place of an animator, you make your character drop an anvil on its head and have it live through it, even though it is flattened like a pancake, does that mean the animator can do the same? Not in this plane of reality.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We are the animation and our creator is the animator, our creator doesn't necessarily go by the same rules we do, its possible, yes, but its not necessarily true.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thus all the debates, arguements, and flaming have no point and we still stay where we started at.

 

 

 

Yeah, that's also known as a Message Board.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was only pointing out why, I didn't make these rules, but I do believe they are for the best.

Your body decomposes in the ground

With all the talk on this subject, I'm surprised nobody brought up "The Flying Spaghetti Monster". :lol:

With all the talk on this subject, I'm surprised nobody brought up "The Flying Spaghetti Monster". :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If someone seriously brings up the flying spaghetti monster, it is discussing religion. If someone jokingly brings up the flying spaghetti monster, they are insulting religious people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Either way it's a broken rule.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Science and reasoning can prove how existence came to be. We just haven't used those tools to find out yet. If anything finds the answer, it'll be through science. Science doesn't discount religion. The thing is nothing about religion so far is scientific. We just are unable to use science to prove or disprove it - that doesn't make religion unscientific since we don't know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Science is based on self-refuting claims though. Science claims that the only way to knowledge is the scientific method, correct? However, the scientific method cannot test itself, leaving the scientific method completely self-refuted.