Confusion

[dwarfdude3]

Hmmm, So I am really confused at the way the world works, and am mad at our creator for making it work this way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically, I am happiest when I am hanging around my friends and we are having conversations and just kinda sitting around.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But in order to actually have friends at all, one must conform to the society we live in, where we have to get all the latest stuff and keep up with whatever is popular. I do not like this. People should not do this. But if I do not, nobody likes me, and I have nothing to talk about. Why is it like this?

[Nadril]

But in order to actually have friends at all, one must conform to the society we live in, where we have to get all the latest stuff and keep up with whatever is popular. I do not like this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Get new friends.

[Errdoth]

Ahh, yet another curious soul, you talk about being yourself and not cconforming to abstract concept of "society", my answer to you, if you think that being yourself will make everyone not like you, you speak of what you do not know, if you are yourself (as, "the creator" would have wanted) you will end up with more friends over time.

[Viktorkrum77]

Friends accept friends for who they are. End of story.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW are 'creator' did not make it this way, we did, society did.

[dwarfdude3]

ok, see I'm not trying to be something I'm not. I'm talking about how I spend my free time. I could waste time on these forums or do other stuff that is free and nobody else ever does. Or I could spend money and play Halo or watch movies and stuff that normal people do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its not like i'm trying to act like the cool guy in school, and I don't want to be the most popular person ever by putting down people 'under' me. I just find this correlation between the ammount of time and money you spend on pop culture stuff and the social life you have.

[Viktorkrum77]

ok, see I'm not trying to be something I'm not. I'm talking about how I spend my free time. I could waste time on these forums or do other stuff that is free and nobody else ever does. Or I could spend money and play Halo or watch movies and stuff that normal people do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its not like i'm trying to act like the cool guy in school, and I don't want to be the most popular person ever by putting down people 'under' me. I just find this correlation between the amount of time and money you spend on pop culture stuff and the social life you have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But do you seriously think everyone you meet does that? Or is everyone else acting as well, because they think everyone else does it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is your definition of 'normal'? Can you not fit into the definition of 'normal'?

[Errdoth]

What is normality but an illusion that the majority of people lie about being to fit in with what a minority of people decided?

[xvillexvalox]

Three words for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Comedy. Comedy. Comedy.

 

 

 

(I didn't say they wouldn't be the same)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want have lots of good freinds while wearing what you want and doing what you want in your free time, you just have to be really funny.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you can make everyone laugh in a creative way, no one will care what you do in your free time, all of a sudden you'll find yourself surrounded by freinds, and you'll have many stories of other freinds for when you meet someone new to tell.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see, I'd probably love ot do stand-up when I grow up

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But if you don't have the natural "talent" to be funny, this won't work, just find what you're good at, don't spend hours online memorzing jokes, because thats not the type of funny I'm talking about. (though watching hours upon hours of standup would help)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most importantly, you have to be your own person, don't follow others, and don't care if alot of people are following your ways, or only your own footsteps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(metaphors!)

[Viktorkrum77]

Three words for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Comedy. Comedy. Comedy.

 

 

 

(I didn't say they wouldn't be the same)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want have lots of good freinds while wearing what you want and doing what you want in your free time, you just have to be really funny.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you can make everyone laugh in a creative way, no one will care what you do in your free time, all of a sudden you'll find yourself surrounded by freinds, and you'll have many stories of other freinds for when you meet someone new to tell.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see, I'd probably love ot do stand-up when I grow up

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But if you don't have the natural "talent" to be funny, this won't work, just find what you're good at, don't spend hours online memorzing jokes, because thats not the type of funny I'm talking about. (though watching hours upon hours of standup would help)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most importantly, you have to be your own person, don't follow others, and don't care if alot of people are following your ways, or only your own footsteps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(metaphors!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omg! I'm so like that! :P lol But in more of a unembarrassing only to good friends kind of way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I'm still not 'popular'. I don't think anyone really is 'popular'. Fads go in and out constantly.

[dwarfdude3]

 

ok, see I'm not trying to be something I'm not. I'm talking about how I spend my free time. I could waste time on these forums or do other stuff that is free and nobody else ever does. Or I could spend money and play Halo or watch movies and stuff that normal people do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its not like i'm trying to act like the cool guy in school, and I don't want to be the most popular person ever by putting down people 'under' me. I just find this correlation between the amount of time and money you spend on pop culture stuff and the social life you have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But do you seriously think everyone you meet does that? Or is everyone else acting as well, because they think everyone else does it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is your definition of 'normal'? Can you now fit into the definition of 'normal'?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think there is a lot of good stuff out there, some popular, some not. But I find that a majority of popular stuff is really stupid (american idol, come on...)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but then where does this leave your social life?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

me: What do you like to do?

 

 

 

person A: I like to watch reality TV and slapstick comedy.

 

 

 

me: Oh, I don't. I like other stuff that is more interesting and relevant.

 

 

 

person: Oh. I don't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

end of conversation. end of social life.

[dwarfdude3]

 

Three words for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Comedy. Comedy. Comedy.

 

 

 

(I didn't say they wouldn't be the same)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want have lots of good freinds while wearing what you want and doing what you want in your free time, you just have to be really funny.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you can make everyone laugh in a creative way, no one will care what you do in your free time, all of a sudden you'll find yourself surrounded by freinds, and you'll have many stories of other freinds for when you meet someone new to tell.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see, I'd probably love ot do stand-up when I grow up

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But if you don't have the natural "talent" to be funny, this won't work, just find what you're good at, don't spend hours online memorzing jokes, because thats not the type of funny I'm talking about. (though watching hours upon hours of standup would help)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most importantly, you have to be your own person, don't follow others, and don't care if alot of people are following your ways, or only your own footsteps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(metaphors!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omg! I'm so like that! :P lol But in more of a unembarrassing only to good friends kind of way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I'm still not 'popular'. I don't think anyone really is 'popular'. Fads go in and out constantly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly! I do do that when I'm not on this forum. I may seem like a depressed loser with no friends on this forum, that is just because I only come here to say stuff anoyomously and that I would not normally tell people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, that kind of comedy does get you friends, but it just doesn't seem to last. I mean eventually they always find someone better, or just get bored with you because you are so uninteresting. For example, if I'm with two of my friends, and the two start talking about something I know absolutly nothing about, I have been known to jokingly interject comments that I know probably have nothing at all to do with what they are talking about, but sound complicated. They laugh and stuff, but then the next thing I know, they are just back to talking about stuff I don't know about. I can't just keep making jokes forever.

[trapical]

Hmmm. Move to an African tribe. Kids there have fun and they don't worry about material things even boring stuff like school. :-k

[tripsis]

If you're pretending to be someone who you are not just so you can hang out with certain people, than that is a completely different issue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As someone stated earlier, we made the world the way it is today. We created the media, stereotypes, expectations, social "standards," etc. If your "friends" don't like you unless you follow all the trends and expectations, then they're not friends at all. Just by doing that, you're giving into society yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with you 100% when you express how.. terrible.. the world is by creating this trendy mess of things.. But there's not a whole lot we can do about it, the way I see it. Find yourself some real friends who like you for who you are, not for who you pretend to be.

[dwarfdude3]

If you're pretending to be someone who you are not just so you can hang out with certain people, than that is a completely different issue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As someone stated earlier, we made the world the way it is today. We created the media, stereotypes, expectations, social "standards," etc. If your "friends" don't like you unless you follow all the trends and expectations, then they're not friends at all. Just by doing that, you're giving into society yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with you 100% when you express how.. terrible.. the world is by creating this trendy mess of things.. But there's not a whole lot we can do about it, the way I see it. Find yourself some real friends who like you for who you are, not for who you pretend to be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, see it is not like my friends reject me if I don't follow the trends, it is more like we just don't have anything to talk about, and thus, the friendships fizzle out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and just to be even more clear, I am NOT trying to be something I'm not just to hang out with a certain 'group'. I'm just commenting on how if you don't follow trends, you don't get good friends, regardless of their 'status' in popularity.

[ilya]

 

But in order to actually have friends at all, one must conform to the society we live in, where we have to get all the latest stuff and keep up with whatever is popular. I do not like this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Get new friends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

+1 buddy, what kind of friend be friends with u for material things? i ahve friend and they would lick dog poopy and they don't own a tv

[TimeStopper]

Well if the comedy thing fails then, sometimes maybe... do something instead of talk.

[warri0r45]

Hmmm, So I am really confused at the way the world works, and am mad at our creator for making it work this way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically, I am happiest when I am hanging around my friends and we are having conversations and just kinda sitting around.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But in order to actually have friends at all, one must conform to the society we live in, where we have to get all the latest stuff and keep up with whatever is popular. I do not like this. People should not do this. But if I do not, nobody likes me, and I have nothing to talk about. Why is it like this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You don't like it, but you feel you need to conform yourself? Do what Nadril said, get new friends. It's just the way the world is.

[lawrencekill]

Hmmm, So I am really confused at the way the world works, and am mad at our creator for making it work this way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically, I am happiest when I am hanging around my friends and we are having conversations and just kinda sitting around.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But in order to actually have friends at all, one must conform to the society we live in, where we have to get all the latest stuff and keep up with whatever is popular. I do not like this. People should not do this. But if I do not, nobody likes me, and I have nothing to talk about. Why is it like this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because a minority comes up with it, convinces majority that it is "in", then the no-brainers buy it, then the people who want to fit in buy it. Kinda like that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just like sticking to one thing with my friends, or a few, like video games, chess, football(which i know nothing about and keep out of).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways you're also talking about convo topics, well to be honest, it's gona be pretty hard keeping up, best to find friends with similar interests, then you always have something to talk about.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Friends accept friends for who they are. End of story.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW are 'creator' did not make it this way, we did, society did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

exactly. We are who we made ourselves to be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you're pretending to be someone who you are not just so you can hang out with certain people, than that is a completely different issue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As someone stated earlier, we made the world the way it is today. We created the media, stereotypes, expectations, social "standards," etc. If your "friends" don't like you unless you follow all the trends and expectations, then they're not friends at all. Just by doing that, you're giving into society yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with you 100% when you express how.. terrible.. the world is by creating this trendy mess of things.. But there's not a whole lot we can do about it, the way I see it. Find yourself some real friends who like you for who you are, not for who you pretend to be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, see it is not like my friends reject me if I don't follow the trends, it is more like we just don't have anything to talk about, and thus, the friendships fizzle out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and just to be even more clear, I am NOT trying to be something I'm not just to hang out with a certain 'group'. I'm just commenting on how if you don't follow trends, you don't get good friends, regardless of their 'status' in popularity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Give some examples of trends, usually there's a pattern and you should catch on to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW, it's not just trends, it's what you have in common, what you talk about. If my friend and I like a specific game and it's not "in", we'll still talk about it, no need for trends, we'll still be good friends.

[warri0r45]

Hmmm. Move to an African tribe. Kids there have fun and they don't worry about material things even boring stuff like school. :-k

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's kind of ironic - African kids are generally very poor, but they love school and never worry about conformity or any other superficial [cabbage] like that. We are generally rich and basically pull our hair out trying to be something were not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The rich could really learn a lesson from the poor.

[lawrencekill]

 

Hmmm. Move to an African tribe. Kids there have fun and they don't worry about material things even boring stuff like school. :-k

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's kind of ironic - African kids are generally very poor, but they love school and never worry about conformity or any other superficial [cabbage] like that. We are generally rich and basically pull our hair out trying to be something were not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The rich could really learn a lesson from the poor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's because it's a luxury just to go to school for them. In this country it's a requirement, and therefore many of us are not as grateful as we should be.

[Mercifull]

Me and my friends dress differently, listen to different music, like different films and books, but im still friends with them. If you feel forced to conform to a specific trend in order to please your mates then you need new friends.

[Viktorkrum77]

Because a minority comes up with it, convinces majority that it is "in", then the no-brainers buy it, then the people who want to fit in buy it. Kinda like that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's more like large corporate companies.

[TotalTalker]

The word "normal" doesnt exist. Some phsycopathical freak may be thought as that by people, but the freak may think the same about the other person. Being "normal" is just being yourself, not going out and doing "normal" things.

[dwarfdude3]

ya you guys aren't getting this, but I accept that it is my fault for lack of being able to explain it. I dunno.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and Mercifull, are you not feeling forced to conform to the specific trend of 'difference' that you are your friends do. If you were to start doing other stuff, then would your friends still like you?

[paragon_JOMO]

in this day and age you gotta do what everyone else is doing or you won't pull the [bleep]es

 

 

 

if you wear yucky clothes from some poo store abd act different to everyone else than all your gonna pull is weirdo hippy uggo chicks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol its the way things are!