The only people who say marijuana isnt bad are the stoners who just want to justify their use of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's lame. I've never tried any drugs at all, nor smoked cigarettes, and hardly had any alcohol. Yet I think it's ok for it to be legal. Why?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other countries have already proven scientifically some light drugs are not lethal nor have they led to higher suicide rates, murder rates, etc., and you can already buy and consume it legally in a country such as the Netherlands. They are allowed by law.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why isn't it allowd in the US? Because the stereotypes still prevail. I don't care if somebody uses it. It's their choice, I wouldn't do it just to "chill out". There are better ways.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But why punish them for smoking something that causes absolutely no deaths per year, and not punish those who smoke cigarettes and result in 500,000 deaths of taxpayers per year?

The only people who say marijuana isnt bad are the stoners who just want to justify their use of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only people who say things like the above are the ignorant idiots who have believed all the anti-drug propaganda they've heard without engaging their brains and questioning any of it.

Weed is less dangerous as alcohol, and yet alcohol is hardly considered a drug and is allowed almost everywhere you go. As long as you use marijuana in a safe envirment (as in: not while driving and so on) I don't see a problem with anyone using it.

 

 

 

It becomes a problem when you can't use it responsibly or overuse it (like always, too much is never good).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know alot of people who use marijuana occasionaly, and it doesn't affect their lifes alot.

 

 

 

 

It also REALLY screws you up the first time you do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I beg to differ. The first time I did it, I barely even felt the effects. It was the second time that screwed me up the most, as was the same for a few of my friends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I beg to differ as well, unless you have mental problems or something. I've done it around 5 times total and each time was boring to say the least, but thats just my experience with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When I said "screwed me up the most", I didn't mean to the point where I was lying paraletic or something like that. I merely meant that it was when it had the strongest effect on me. Generally, it just relaxes me a bit, nothing major.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry man, I can see that what I wrote didn't come across clearly. When I said 'I beg to differ as well' I was agreeing with your stance on the statement 'it really screws you up the first time.'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ah, my mistake, I read it as you were "begging to differ" with me. Think wqe've managed to establish thatit hardly affects people first time now anyway :)

I personally do not use it, however, i know alot of people who do and you would not be able to tell if you hadn't seen them doing it.

 

 

 

Some of the ones who use it more regularly, are actually some of the best pupils in my school.

 

 

 

I also have a relative who uses it medicinally, as they have arthritis.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the UK, Cannabis was reclassified to a Class C drug, from a Class B.

 

 

 

(Class A=Heroin, Cocaine, Ecstacy, LSD.

 

 

 

Class B=Amphetamines, Barbituates.

 

 

 

Class C=Cannabis, Anabolic Steroids, Mild-amphetamines such as slimming tablets etc)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This means that although posession can still carry a prison sentence, first offences will just be given a warning and confiscation of the drug. Basically, the government softened their stance on it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have no problem with it being legalised, as it will make sure the quality of it (for people who use it) is better. It is proven that illegal drugs have huge impurities, as people "dilute" them with chemicals. Drugs have also been found to be "diluted" by things such as brick dust, custard powder and rat poison.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Jimmie

My girlfriend told me she smoked weed sometimes, I was really really upset and ashamed about it, but reading this, Has actually opened my eyes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've never tried it, I may try it.. Who knows, I just wouldn't want to become involved in the whole bad atmostphere aspect of using drugs.

My girlfriend told me she smoked weed sometimes, I was really really upset and ashamed about it, but reading this, Has actually opened my eyes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've never tried it, I may try it.. Who knows, I just wouldn't want to become involved in the whole bad atmostphere aspect of using drugs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Look what you did TIF! You got someone to start smoking weed! Congratulations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Number of lives hurt: 1

 

 

 

Keep em coming!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The fact that it is illegal should be enough for you not to do it. Just because you think it *should* be legal does not mean you can use it like it is legal. What the law says and what you think are entirely different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides, you are better off without it than with it.

If it's used responsibly, I don't see a downside to it. I'm a 'user' or whatever you want to call it, and I've done fine (some would go as far to say I've done well) both academically and socially.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Like anything out there, it's all about using it in moderation. Don't smoke if there's things you need to do, and don't smoke all day everyday - That would be stupid and boring.

The fact that it is illegal should be enough for you not to do it. Just because you think it *should* be legal does not mean you can use it like it is legal. What the law says and what you think are entirely different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The law isn't always correct, and what the law doesn't know, doesn't hurt the law.

 

The fact that it is illegal should be enough for you not to do it. Just because you think it *should* be legal does not mean you can use it like it is legal. What the law says and what you think are entirely different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The law isn't always correct, and what the law doesn't know, doesn't hurt the law.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, but it's the LAW! It overrides what you think is right and wrong. Sorry! The law is there to protect you. Just because you do not like the law does not mean you should disobey it.

 

 

The fact that it is illegal should be enough for you not to do it. Just because you think it *should* be legal does not mean you can use it like it is legal. What the law says and what you think are entirely different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The law isn't always correct, and what the law doesn't know, doesn't hurt the law.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, but it's the LAW! It overrides what you think is right and wrong. Sorry! The law is there to protect you. Just because you do not like the law does not mean you should disobey it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since when is the law always right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Look what you did TIF! You got someone to start smoking weed! Congratulations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Number of lives hurt: 1

 

 

 

Keep em coming!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People should make their own decision on wether or not they are going to smoke weed. All this thread does is put together facts and personal experiences. Hopefully we are dealing with the truth here and looking at both sides of the arguement. People have the right to make an educated decision, rather than have 'NO DRUGS' forced down their throats.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The fact that it is illegal should be enough for you not to do it. Just because you think it *should* be legal does not mean you can use it like it is legal. What the law says and what you think are entirely different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again I disagree, it should be the peoples choice as to wether or not they smoke weed and they should be able to get it if they so desire from safe sources. The law here is a silly one creaing more problems than it solves.

Yeah, but it's the LAW! It overrides what you think is right and wrong. Sorry! The law is there to protect you. Just because you do not like the law does not mean you should disobey it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The law in China says people get sent to prison for questioning the government. It says that search engines have to censor keywords such as "democracy", "Tiannamen Square" and so on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Laws can be BS. Laws are not morality.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone who bases their judgements of right and wrong solely on the law and never questions it clearly has limited mental faculties.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Look what you did TIF! You got someone to start smoking weed! Congratulations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Number of lives hurt: 1

 

 

 

Keep em coming!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People should make their own decision on wether or not they are going to smoke weed. All this thread does is put together facts and personal experiences. Its a freaken forum! I would not make decisions based on a forum. How about some actual research. As a public forum, we should not encourage things against the law. Hopefully we are dealing with the truth here and looking at both sides of the arguement. People have the right to make an educated decision, rather than have 'NO DRUGS' forced down their throats. Well, they should have it forced down their throats if it is illegal. We force "do not murder" down people's throats?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The fact that it is illegal should be enough for you not to do it. Just because you think it *should* be legal does not mean you can use it like it is legal. What the law says and what you think are entirely different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again I disagree, it should be the peoples choice as to wether or not they smoke weed and they should be able to get it if they so desire from safe sources. The law here is a silly one creaing more problems than it solves. yes laws create more problems than they solve. Ha! Yes, let us all kill people and disobey the law because we as individuals disagree! Hooray!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, but it's the LAW! It overrides what you think is right and wrong. Sorry! The law is there to protect you. Just because you do not like the law does not mean you should disobey it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The law in China says people get sent to prison for questioning the government. It says that search engines have to censor keywords such as "democracy", "Tiannamen Square" and so on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Laws can be BS. Laws are not morality.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone who bases their judgements of right and wrong solely on the law and never questions it clearly has limited mental faculties.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. We aren't in China. I did not choose to live in China. I will not follow China's rules.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. When you decided to be a citizen/resident of the United States of America, you said you would obey all laws whether you agreed with them or not. It is not morality, but they are there for the betterment of society. I would rather ave laws than not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My stance on MJ:

 

 

 

1. I know it isn't as "addictive" as some other drugs, but it makes you less active. I know some people who get high, and they just sit around and don't do anything

 

 

 

2. It is against the law which I must obey. This should be enough

 

 

 

3. It gives you a bad reputation where I live. I don't want to be known as a stoner.

 

 

 

4. I can get pleasure other ways.

1. We aren't in China. I did not choose to live in China. I will not follow China's rules.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Way to totally miss the point. I even explained it for you yet you still managed to miss it. Laws are not morality and China was an example of laws that are wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. When you decided to be a citizen/resident of the United States of America, you said you would obey all laws whether you agreed with them or not. It is not morality, but they are there for the betterment of society. I would rather ave laws than not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When I decided to be a citizen/resident of the USA? I don't remember that, considering I've lived in England all my life. Maybe we folks over the pond don't have such blind obedience and can think for ourselves. At least compared to people like you who have demonstrated themselves to be unquestioning of authority.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There used to be laws against homosexuality. There used to be laws against blasphemy. There ARE currently laws against democracy in some places. Laws are not always for the betterment of society. Laws are not infallible.

We aren't in the USA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm entirely with Parabola on this issue. Hypothetically, if you had to break the law to save a loved one's life, and by doing so you wouldn't be hurting anyone, would you really let the loved one die just because "the law's the law"?

 

1. We aren't in China. I did not choose to live in China. I will not follow China's rules.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Way to totally miss the point. I even explained it for you yet you still managed to miss it. Laws are not morality and China was an example of laws that are wrong. Laws are there to best help society in perspective of the government who makes them. If you do not agree with the laws, get out of the damn country! When you say laws are "wrong", that is an opinion. This opinion is obviously not shared by those who made them. If you disagree, get out of the country and don't complain. You can also try and get the law changed, or vote for those who support your views.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. When you decided to be a citizen/resident of the United States of America, you said you would obey all laws whether you agreed with them or not. It is not morality, but they are there for the betterment of society. I would rather ave laws than not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When I decided to be a citizen/resident of the USA? I don't remember that, considering I've lived in England all my life. Maybe we folks over the pond don't have such blind obedience and can think for ourselves. At least compared to people like you who have demonstrated themselves to be unquestioning of authority. I am not educated on the laws of England therefore I will not say anything. I never said you have to AGREE with the laws, but simply abide by them as a citizen of that country. I question authority, but while the law stays as it is, I will not disobey because it is my duty as a citizen to obey the law whether I agree with it or not. If you have a huge problem, then once again: get out of the country (or try and get it changed)!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There used to be laws against homosexuality. There used to be laws against blasphemy. There ARE currently laws against democracy in some places. Laws are not always for the betterment of society.according to you. The lawmakers obviously do not share that same opinion Laws are not infallible.

I love how people say "if you don't like it, get out of the country" when obviously no thought has gone towards how difficult, impractical and stupid such a suggestion is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Getting out of the country means:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You need a massive amount of capital to move all your belongings.

 

 

 

You leave behind all your family and friends.

 

 

 

You leave behind your job.

 

 

 

In many cases you have to learn a new language.

 

 

 

You have to find a place of residence in the new country.

 

 

 

You have to get permission to live in the new country.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saying "get out of the country" is a stupid and puerile suggestion, and I've not once seen it mentioned by someone who isn't a teenager.

I love how people say "if you don't like it, get out of the country" when obviously no thought has gone towards how difficult, impractical and stupid such a suggestion is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Getting out of the country means:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You need a massive amount of capital to move all your belongings.

 

 

 

You leave behind all your family and friends.

 

 

 

You leave behind your job.

 

 

 

In most cases you have to learn a new language.

 

 

 

You have to find a place of residence in the new country.

 

 

 

You have to get permission to live in the new country.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saying "get out of the country" is a stupid and puerile suggestion, and I've not once seen it mentioned by someone who isn't a teenager.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you even read what I said? I said advocate a change! Jeez. leave the country if it's major. Advocate change if it disturbs you but not enough to leave. Way to only address one of my arguments.

Laws are there to best help society in perspective of the government who makes them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not true. Plenty of governments put laws in place to keep them in power which have nothing to do with the betterment of the society. Cases in point = Iraq, China.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This opinion is obviously not shared by those who made them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Irrelevant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you disagree, get out of the country and don't complain.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You've said to get out of the country twice by this point.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can also try and get the law changed, or vote for those who support your views.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not when the government oppresses the people and no one gets to vote. Cases in point = Iraq, China.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I question authority, but while the law stays as it is, I will not disobey because it is my duty as a citizen to obey the law whether I agree with it or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blindly obeying the law regardless of its content is as bad as not questioning it. What if the law said that a woman should be beaten if she isn't wearing a veil in public? Would you obey that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you have a huge problem, then once again: get out of the country (or try and get it changed)!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 times. Once again, puerile argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

according to you. The lawmakers obviously do not share that same opinion

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Irrelevant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're just putting across arguments that show you know little about life. For example:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, but it's the LAW! It overrides what you think is right and wrong. Sorry! The law is there to protect you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is just a childish attitude and you've been shown it is wrong by several people other than me. Contrary to popular belief on this forum, internet teenagers don't always know everything.

 

 

 

Did you even read what I said? I said advocate a change!.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What would work better at advocating a change than open demonstration of disobedience to a law?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The reason governments are eventually going to cave on Cannabis laws isn't because of new research and studies they may find, it'll be because of pressure from the users. Basically, if there becomes enough people who use cannabis, the government will give in.

 

Laws are there to best help society in perspective of the government who makes them.

Well obviously the leaders of the country think by them staying in power, they help the people. If you disagree, advocate a change. If it is as bad as China and Iraq, well then I guess you better leave and aim for a better life

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not true. Plenty of governments put laws in place to keep them in power which have nothing to do with the betterment of the society. Cases in point = Iraq, China.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This opinion is obviously not shared by those who made them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Irrelevant. 'Course it is relevant. If the lawmakers have a law and you disagree with it, your opinions clash. It is your duty to try and change this, or do something about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you disagree, get out of the country and don't complain.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You've said to get out of the country twice by this point. If there is no other option

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can also try and get the law changed, or vote for those who support your views.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not when the government oppresses the people and no one gets to vote. Cases in point = Iraq, China. You better do something about it then.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I question authority, but while the law stays as it is, I will not disobey because it is my duty as a citizen to obey the law whether I agree with it or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blindly obeying the law regardless of its content is as bad as not questioning it. Haha. So if you disagree wtih a law, you will disobey it as a rebel rather than trying to get it changed? Silly if you ask me. You are not blindly obeying it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you have a huge problem, then once again: get out of the country (or try and get it changed)!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 times. Once again, puerile argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

according to you. The lawmakers obviously do not share that same opinion

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Irrelevant. same as above

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're just putting across arguments that show you know little about life. For example:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, but it's the LAW! It overrides what you think is right and wrong. Sorry! The law is there to protect you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is just a childish attitude and you've been shown it is wrong by several people other than me. Contrary to popular belief on this forum, internet teenagers don't always know everything. Now, you are just being an [wagon].

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hopefully we are dealing with the truth here and looking at both sides of the arguement. People have the right to make an educated decision, rather than have 'NO DRUGS' forced down their throats. [

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, they should have it forced down their throats if it is illegal. We force "do not murder" down people's throats?

 

 

 

Murder directly affects other people. Canabis can be enjoyed in the privacy of your own home without hurting anyone else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The fact that it is illegal should be enough for you not to do it. Just because you think it *should* be legal does not mean you can use it like it is legal. What the law says and what you think are entirely different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again I disagree, it should be the peoples choice as to wether or not they smoke weed and they should be able to get it if they so desire from safe sources. The law here is a silly one creaing more problems than it solves. yes laws create more problems than they solve. Ha! Yes, let us all kill people and disobey the law because we as individuals disagree! Hooray!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You misread. I meant the law making canabis illegal caused more problems not the law itself. With the illegality of weed comes the organised crime, dealers and the smuggling and drug running. If you took away the law, people could get their stuff from safe sources, taking away the need for all the drug running and dealing. That would free up space in prisons and make canabis a much safer drug.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. When you decided to be a citizen/resident of the United States of America, you said you would obey all laws whether you agreed with them or not. It is not morality, but they are there for the betterment of society. I would rather ave laws than not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I, like parabola am English and I try to think for myself and make my judgements based on facts rather than following the law blindly. I will take the law into account when making my decisions as the majority of the time I agree with it (well, sometimes). However I think that making canabis legal would be a good thing. This doesn't mean that I would smoke it if it was made legal or that I do smoke it now, it would mean that people could get canabis from safe, regulated sellers and it would free up spaces in prisons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The problem as i have heard of it is that it is ok as a natural plant for smoking, but because people grow it in secret hydroponically it is several hundred times more severe? Also there have been direct links with it to Schitzophrenia and Bi-Polar Disorder. In Bi-Polar it is not the cause, but for someone who has it but not know of it marijuana can be the trigger for a mania attack. I definantly believe in it as a painkiller for terminally ill patients though, it can really help.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If the patients are really in bad pain don't they usually give them morphine and such things like that?

 

The problem as i have heard of it is that it is ok as a natural plant for smoking, but because people grow it in secret hydroponically it is several hundred times more severe? Also there have been direct links with it to Schitzophrenia and Bi-Polar Disorder. In Bi-Polar it is not the cause, but for someone who has it but not know of it marijuana can be the trigger for a mania attack. I definantly believe in it as a painkiller for terminally ill patients though, it can really help.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If the patients are really in bad pain don't they usually give them morphine and such things like that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sometimes. It helps people with lukemia(sp?). It supposedly helps them eat while acting as some sort of a painkiller.