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normaly I leave these sorts of discussions alone how ever if you insist on quoting each other thusly I shall have no choice but to consider it spam. Thank you and have a nice day.

I collect orange capes for my order. I currently have around 80 of them and will buy them in bulk. if any one wants to sell ill buy for 50 coins each in groups of 100.

one suggestion, leave battle field book as it is and add a sub forum where people cannot reply for old battles. called archive of wars. or something to that effect. I have never thought they belonged in clan archives or that they should just be deleated. keeping them in there own archives is one of the best things we can do for clans in my oppinion as they can aculy have links to there battles right heer on tipit.

2 of you are spaming this topic please stop. there is a should free to play get updates debate on the debate club board. that said we expect that jagex will at least take notice that we suffer from lack of bank space. if they are made aware of this fact then maby action shall be taken to remedy it. members need more bank space too this is true. but we have waited pationtly for years and more and more items we can store appear. some of which are not regainable with ease such as ladderhosen hats and other randomes. then some of us may have rares like santas we dont wish to get rid of. there are those of us like free to play moderators (who you shouldent tell to go get membership they keep the f2p game clean). in eddition to moderators there are f2p people who have no intention of getting membership. they still make up a importent part of the game. imagin what the game would be like if us older players in free to play just dissapeard. you do relise members would be raising hell about not getting cheep goods and services. not being able to price gouge us for items they buy super cheep in stores. in eddition to that the free to play game quality would drop dramaticaly and new players would loose interest. its us older free to play people who have the most to store and who make the community as good as it is. members effect it too but the free to play element is effected the most by those charicters that live there. free to play is much more than a demo it is the game. although I am saddend to see it treeted more and more like a demo every year the fact remains that you members need us as much as we and jagex need you. we form a simbionic circle in the community, take away one and the other dies. so there you have it what we hope to accomplish.

Moved to battlefield book. for future refrence such topics belong there. Thank You

nice try kid, your already on the list.

my p-mod frend cant come on then its too early for him. but with luck maby he can get some of his frends to attend. I will try to contact him tonight. rally time sounds good ill try to get my order to show. one suggestion though is that we as individuals dont spam. we should limit ourselves to once every ten seconds other wise we may push whatever boundery consitutes spam. we dont want to get people banned, we want results without loss.

Thanks 34 suporters thus far. and who will be lucky number 35?

Iv seen this almost every time she first appears. its just one of many such glitches in the graphics. try talking to some one with a ladderhosen hat on and see how the back clips right through your head. Iv reported that to jagex and I doubt its been fixed. but thanks for posting this one, Its been a little annoying. now we can all agree we need a attack leo option.

I second that motion. this must of been mentioned somewheres around heer before but im always getting critisized about my poor spelling. well for every ones information its a life long problem. that said Id love to see a spell check program incorperated into the forums.

I moved this to the art bazaar. please provide us with some more information and refrain from useing the clan boards for this sort of request in the future. Thank you.

I think he meens sneeking up on an enemy camp while they are asleep :ohnoes: but there is the element of suprise to some extent in runescape. for instance if your in a clan war and hold back your full streangth the enemy will get careless. then you can send in your reserves all rangers and mages to finish them off. the shock will cause great confusion in most enemy commanders and could turn the tide in many battles. there is a instance of the element of suprise.

thanks all added. mr. devnull I think you may very well have the gift of forsight unless jagex has the good sense to at least consider the feed back the new update has been getting.

sorry I dident read the whole thing but I agree free to play could use some more updates. my resons are not that we deserve them but that in the long run the quality of the game would only rise if free to players get more updates. my reson: in order to maintain balance jagex will have to make members all the more batter to compeet with a regurly updated free to play game. also improveing free to play will attract more people to play and keep the old players in the game. us life long free to players are importent not only to the comunity but also to the game's economy as well. that said I support more quests for free to play. I also support the slow addition of member skills like fletching to some degree to improve the free to play economy and balance the game out abit more.

theres a new policy... well its been an old policy but we are finaly enforceing it. by we I meen me but at any rate heer it goes. if a topic heer is older than one month it will be locked so as to prevent spamming, flameing, and old battles being alongside the new ones. I for one would much rather they all be archived than reply'd too long after they have happend. that said Im locking this down, read the new board rules and you will see why. Thank you and have a nice day.

Thank you. I hope some one heer has the ability to contact jagex in some way or anouther and tell them how we feel about this.

wonderfull to heer neither of you value f2pers. well Iv said enough on the matter and dont want to wright an essay on why we are importent. that said I like mukanshin leave you to "discuss" it too your hearts content this is just going around in circles now. maby if people would have a real debate instead of just stateing opinions we could reach some level of truth but alas so it goes. if you want to have a real debate and argue with facts you know where to find me. Farewell

Thanks guys all added

how many times must I and others say this, FTP is not a DEMO! free to play is the game and members is the expansion too it. usely when there is a problem with a game the company that makes it produces patches to correct this. these problems are not limited to bugs but also to imbalnces in game play. pressureing us to buy the expansion is not going to work, we will either continue to play and complain in free to play or we will go find somthing else to do with our spare time. and if you think the life long free to players are free loaders think again. It is the life long free to players who form the base of the economy as well as the comunity. trust me there are alot of influential players who are free to play. should we be droven away becouse we do not wish to pay we will be missed not only by our fellow free to players but also by the members who notice a sudden unpleasent change in the market. I and many others all throughout this topic, and others have stated many resons why we are importent to the quality of the game. giveing us the shaft will not improve the quality for members it will only cheepen the game. in the long run it is much better for you members that we do get updates becouse it forces jagex to make members all the more better.

well put... so far forsaken mage is not able to post reguarding 'the' but that shouldent prevent us from continueing our discussion about community vs pure clans. So far every one seems to agree that pure clans have a bad impact on the comunity. so then if pures are bad then what preytell is a good clan? community based clans still pk so that is not somthing that would put them apart. my order "not reely a clan" does not PK we hunt the skulled in other words we are anti pkers. community based clans are more about frendships and haveing fun as a group this is what I say sets us apart from pure clans. so now that you have all agreed that pure clans have a bad impact on the comunity the nexed thing to ask ourselves is what can we do about it? perhaps if the leaders of pure clans where to read this and relise that the comunity is more importent than pixles the problem will start to improve.

well your stateing that free to play accounts should be removed every 3 months was not exactly humble. as Iv stated all this time free to play play's an importent role not only in the economy in game but also as a sorce of new members. take away us the life long free to players and the quality will go down in free to play, the members market will be negitively effected, and new players will be hopelessly lost. In my opinion updateing Free to play makes very sound buisness sense becouse it makes it more apealing to new members and keeps the old ones playing. old f2p players are very inmportent to both the economy and the community as well. true members are more importent to jagex but that does not meen they shouldent take an opertunity to improve the game quality as a whole. now I know this is going around in circles but what can you do? the folks at jagex may have this same debate all year round which is why they havent done what I propose :roll:

jackson the answer is simple. if you have no more space when you go back to members you will still keep your stuff you just wont be able to put anything in untill you have delt with it. the same thing has always been true of going back to free to play if im not mistaken except then you have alot less bank space and have to get rid of all your hard earned members items. if it where up to me the bank space would be yours to keep when you unsubscribe.

yeah if jagex is getting around a million per month off of free to play is it too much to ask that they spend around 100k a year for some updates like more bank space and value us as a sorce of revenue and not free loaders that have to be weend to members? im just going to guess that the adds are probaly based apon each time they appear not when they are clicked. by that resoning and say 2 adds are worth one cent (there probaly worth alot more companys spend a fourtune on advertiseing) most people play long enough each day to get at least ten adds in game. if this is true and there are 2 milliion active players per day... probaly a lot less but lets just assume there are then they are most likely getting $200 thausand or more per month from free to play. As I stated earlyer by increasing the quality of free to play they do sevrall things one keep more players, two better the community and the in game economy, and 3 attract more players. In the long run I strongly feel that increasing the quality of Free to play will result in greater profits for jagex than treating it like a Demo. it will also benifit members in the long run becouse in order to preserve the balance they will have to work much harder for you as well. even if jagex did not make a single penny's profit from free to play should they decide to update it the increase in quality would result in more members as a end result. also notice how by my calculations free to play probaly generates around 200k per month? im sure its alot more than this as alot of people think its in the millions. of course we should ask jagex and get one of those lovely replys from mod bartlet.

Right you are now I remember I was the one who sent you the pm. thanks for clearing that up hmm.... 2 posts on the same board on the same day I hope this isent aproaching spam... ShadowsSaved welcome aboard (now I am contributeing something :wink: ).

well that was abit harsh... is it always how you reply to people who dont agree with you? now its my turn since this is the debate club. like many have stated a small teem could be made to bring more free to play content in or slowly bring some member content in game. it would be very slow nothing quick like what members get (maby a update a month). this would not close the gap between F2P and members becouse at the same time there would be an emphesis on makeing members as good as they possably can and perhaps some teem rivelry between the member and free to play teems which would result in competitions. with a much larger and better funded member teem they would put out more and better content than what they do now to counter makeing free to play better. This would benifit members too not just free to play and in the end result in more people keeping membership and more people wanting to get membership. but free to play do help there members and make it a better game. if jagex does not care about the comunity then they would not bother to make it a MMO without a community people dont play MMO's. We are not free loaders we bring much to the game's economy and to the members experionce who else would they go to to get that high from being so much better than us? also As I have stated I belive the adverts cover our expense and perhaps make a small profit. what are you talking about? free players out number members what ten to one? we are the Base of the Economy. and heer you have it why we are not just a tool. have you ever considerd that a kind Lord will get more out of his people in the long run than a cruel extorting Lord? happy people produce alot more and are more inclined to do things for you than those who resent your rule and there lives.