Just one problem with that... If Jagex tells us, it also leaves an open door for the botters/macroers/cheaters to know. Then those jerks would all try to change their stuff, and all the rest of us would have yet one more problem on our hands. Remember, the more the bad guys change their stuff, the harder it is for us non-botting/non-macroing/non-cheating humans to actually look like the humans we are to Jagex's BotWatch System. Ultimate result in a worst-case scenario, everyone is banned, nobody is playing. In short, RuneScape would then be totally dead, and the idiots in this world would have ruined it for everyone. What a headache to think about, eh? :( ~D. V. "Sorry... Prophecies Of Doom keep popping into my mind!" Devnull