compfreak847

I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunatly, one cannot be removed from a thread for what you so bluntly put as 'idiocty'. I'm still curious as to why you are parroting 'read my post' over and over again instead of actually responding to my posts. For the record, your origional post has one thing correct: FTP mages are at a disadvantage to meleers higher level then them. As for the rest, magic hits 50+ with combos (and no, +15% magic prayer doesn't boost hits, only accuracy), with FAR more accuracy then any other spell. You have completely failed on most of your facts, like the big bad meleer running around in his tough d hide while the mage pathetically tries to hold off with his flimsy robes. Wake up, the mager has more melee defence! He can pull out a whip and cut the meleer into several evenly sized pieces. Of course, we could ignore the fact that the meleer's attack is 30% lower. Or the fact that he's poisoned. Or the fact that the mage is already 100+ damge ahead from his first freeze. Heck, you could even ignore the fact that the meleer is only attacking at HALF speed - the mager STILL has more melee defence, and can barrage the meleer to kingdom come if he even thinks about trying to put on decent armor. Puh-lease, the only advantage melee has is that it requires less skill. A skilled mager can take down a meleer far higher leveld then him with ease. On an even fight, melee looks even more pathetic at 74 attack and strength.

I don't think so.. My barrows gloves are fine, same type of untradable item. Although not a mini game one, I've never gotten a torso.

You probably have a ton of crap running in the background. His computer setup might not be new, but it's not bad either, ESPECIALLY for playing Runescape. It's all about how clean you keep your computer. Runescape will run fine on a computer 10 years old, it's not that amazing. I'm running Vista on performance mode rather than GUI. I can run Runescape HD fine, without much lag, although without anti-aliasing. I suppose I underrated my machine at the time, or overrated the original statment. Aero does basically nothing to performance. I've found that turning it off drops my benchmark FPSs by 2% or so. I can run 1920X1200 easily @ 50 FPS in most areas on my lappy, and my desktop can probably break 300 without a cap. Upgrade your Java version?

It's not. People can't get through their heads that free XP doesn't equal good XP. If your getting 1/10th the mage XP you would if you were alching instead for a loss of, say, 60k an hour, your going to end up spending 9 times as much time trying to train magic.

You failed to demonstrate how each spell cost more then 4.5k with zuriel staff. Since when has mage been a crutch? Obviously you can't mage against karils, but you can melee MUCH more effectively. News flash: Ahrims has MORE melee defence then karils, especally when your hitting TWICE as often as your opponent, with 30% higher attack!. Those facts alone mean you could wear almost anything and win the fight. Should the meleer be stuipd enough not to bring melee armor, or switch back to it at any point during the fight due to his being owned thanks to lower defence\1/2 the attack speed\30% reduced attack, you can barrage, step back, and get 6-8 free whip hits on him without being touched. Yes, mage costs a fair amount, but that's the price paid for complete decimation of melee.

I'm sorry to hear that. I define it by both weapon and armor, as melee is the only weapon-exclusive class. I saw a dude in void 1 hit a dude with an hp cape with a dark bow and ice blitz in a pvp world today..,

They are fine. It isn't a generic 3rd party ban, it's a series of rules the 3rd party program has to follow. And tip.it follows them.

I did decent with Verac's at my stats (80 attack, 75 strength, 80 defence? I think) but I always did better with magic. However, I made more with Verac's but not lots more. I think maging would be more time-efficient for you. If you really want to Verac, make sure to bring range stuff for Ahrim and a super set. There's simply no comparison. Melee is FAR slower, even with maxed melee. And yes, I've tested it - I did my godsword runs with AGS, bandos, zerker ring etc. I was getting much slower times and lower profit then salamander.

Your no longer maging if you pull out a whip... Or am I misunderstanding you? Nope, but your no longer a pure melee if you pull out ranger armor. I have never seen people fight together with 'pure' combat classes, so a mage or melee only situation is hypothetical and therefore has no bearing on real in-game activity.

Do people not pray against you?? Do they leave their armor on?? Really, I think you fight morons. They pray, I pray. They wear metal armor, I wear mage armor. They wear range armor, I melee them with whip, and I've got a higher defence bonus. They have 30% lower attack and they are poisoned. Plus they are still hitting at half speed from the single miasmic barrage, so I will be outhitting them at least 2 to 1, until they put melee armor on. At which point I barrage, then sidestep attack them if they put on range armor, else blood barrage.

19 summoning and your complaining? Charms are fast, if you know how to collect. Barrage lobsters like I did and you can get 88 (unicorn stallion, crazily useful) in a few weeks.

See my arguments in previous threads. I can take down a maxed melee player, EASILY, despite having a magic level equivilant to 74 attack and strength. They hit me once every 22 seconds at most; usually less then once a minute. Miasmic barrage costs 4.5k per cast, after which the staff is put into inventory.

Range - good when fighting a monster that you miss less then once every 10th of the time and don't require defence or prayer bonuses (not often...) Melee - Good for nothing Mage - Good for nothing

So you're telling me (ultra) high-levels shouldn't have the right to play a minigame that was meant for everyone? Don't ruin the reputation of the genuine ranters. Pathetic. Your saying we're the bad guys for being better then you? In the real world, it's like an idiot screaming at a smart physicist saying he shouldn't be allowed to think of things because he's smarter then him.

Meleer pulls karils, they pull out a whip and own them with higher defence and double the hitting speed. Rangers are tricker; it requires torags top\bottom and whip, but you will then have the advantage.

You can't hit 4 0s, the lowest hit is 0-1 and anything above that is 4 red hits. I can 2 hit a maxed player over half the time, they are VERY powerful.

Possible if they decided to do another banned account status change. It's happened once in the history of runescape, so I wouldn't count on it.

Very simple. Whip or D scimmy outhits an anchor, period. I've fought other players my level from 80-134 combat, and anchor ALWAYS loses to whip and d scimmy. It's just too slow with too low of stat bonuses. The special stinks, the slow animation makes it worthless for a KO. I won't be repairing mine.

Is that a calculated number? I'm thinking it'd be around .5-.1%... not sure how to go about calculating that though. No bonus though, that much is known. Very simple. .8 chance of hitting under 20% of our theoretical 'max' with salve. So .8 X .8 = .64, our chance of hitting that twice in a row. .8 X .8 X .8 = .512, our chance of hitting 3 times in a row. And so forth and so on. Now do .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 X .8 for 180 hits = .000000000000000000081045225954706893720945466087718 chance of that, rounded to .00000000000000000008, or 1 in 800 quintillion. Slightly less then .5-.1% :P

HURR DURR rs2 used to be a mages game, then a rangers game, now melee our time has come and your time has passed, get out the way while i grind 4 cash Not a chance. The argument could be made that melee has gotten more updates to make up for it being weaker. Besides, I just proved how magic is stronger; abandoning a logical argument and going 'HURR DURR MELEE GOT MORE UPDATES IT PWONS MAGE' is just stupid.

Hardly. With a bunyip you can't use a combat familiar. Which is useful in what percentage of slayer tasks? Hint: The elimination of guthans for a bunyip is going to speed things far more then any level 68 combat summon will, with far less hassle, on any task that doesn't require prayer. And I can't name one task off the top of my head where it is worth using, although there may be one out there. Combat familiars, especially at level 68, don't do much.

As a random guess, if a person goes out of their way to close to door and kill him, he probably isn't going to waste any prayer points on his grave...

Guthans is also outdated. Earn BTP and get 68 summoning.

D claws can't hit from a distance, they just appear that way due to animations. A skilled mager can easily avoid a meleer and at most get hit once per 20 second freeze and heals. As there is currently no weapon that hits 99 damage in 1 shot, it is impossible to KO the mager.

Slightly funny, but it's what most of the RS population would do. Apparently watching people lose items is hilarious.