tazo6114

I want my character to achieve a rank in the top 250 f2p list, but as that probably won't happen, I'm gonna aim for at least 1250 total

That would just to try to get dragon plates into the game quite fast as they were just released. The drop rate will probably go down significantly after a few weeks.

Runecrafting is tempting since it is such a HUGE PAIN to train. On the other hand, runecrafting, unlike some other skills, actually has a little payoff as you train it up. That's a tough tradeoff to decide -- pain v. money. Unless of course the exp puts you up to a level where you can get an extra rune per essence, in which case the time it took you to get that level without the exp boost could be used after the exp boost and thus make even more money. So that is also a factor in deciding.

I'm level 103 and use trouts when I go to cockroach soldiers. This means I can take an extra trout and get 2 or 3 possible extra kills, so not just useful for low levels. Although pking isn't going to be to badly affected because even many of the lower levels still use lobsters, which they can only put one of in it.

Theres already 2 locked ones on this page, as well as the one thats active o.O

BlueLancer, the only update that we would "deserve" is the holiday events, which I said before, as those are meant to generally be a time of celebration or togetherness. Although theres always those people who think that this or that should be included in f2p, and you have to face the fact that everyone has those things that they think would be kool to have (f2p or p2p).

I was refering to what Coolsam223 said, "Weapons better than rune but worse than dragon may need to have some other special requirement to weild. Like maybe a long and medium difficulty ranked quest. that requires some decent skills and should go to the f2p with the patience to get 40 qp. That way f2p will get the experience on how members have to do difficult things such as quests to get the better stuff. They should also make this armor a rare drop from a f2p boss of some sort so the rich people who buy the best equipment have to kill it alot before it sells often at GE" And although it isn't the most well thought out idea ever, is still a basic suggestion, which is what I was referring to. You must have thought that I was talking about the entire topic being the suggestion, which is clearly a demand. I am assuming I need to begin being very specific in anything I say?

I like that idea. At least people would have to work for their prayer. Be good for f2p in a way as well as praying prot just makes fights go on for ever, and not to many people would have the 83 prayer to prot melee players. Although when it comes to just trying to get away from someone if you had no incentive to fight, or you get pj'ed, then this idea will fail. So good and bad, depending on circumstances.

first of all, f2p doesnt want new armour, more quests or a boss, although these things would be nice, and people would LIKE (not demand) it, most people know it isnt going to happen, and therefore, dont bother complaining about it. Coolsam223 was just pointing out a suggestion, not demands. And Great_one, I've been f2p over 4 years, and theres only one update I remember apart from the ones you have brought up, plus the bank updates.

Omali-Yes there are. Jagex can't be bothered to cater to you if you say you have better things to spend your money on, but demand extras. I believe that Jagex can and do cater to us though, even though we have better things to spend our money on, hence why we have corrupted dragon, more bankspace a few years ago etc. We just dont get things often, which is completely reasonable, but to think that we should get nothing is ridiculous. Jagex know that there are people who have been f2p for an extended period of time. They also know that people get bored with f2p. If every now and again they give f2p a brief taste of members, then they are going to keep people in game longer, and hence create a greater chance of the person getting members. Omali-Absolutely. I've always been in favor of f2p getting to participate in the holiday events. Glad you think that way :thumbsup: Omali-Taking advantage means to use something, it doesn't always describe abuse of a commodity. By using f2p, you're taking advantage of a free service (IE: Using it), which makes you a freeloader. Point taken about the whole taking advantage thing, but as far as freeloading goes, if Jagex didn't want this, then the whole f2p system would be changed so that my example of playing for x time would be put in, or it removed completely, hence there is nothing wrong with freeloading. Also, keep in mind that I know how bad some of the f2p complaining can get, just dont assume it is all of us.

Omali-To freeload is defined as "to take advantage of others for free food, entertainment, etc. ", so yes F2p'ers are freeloaders. (sorry, not to good with quote tags etc) We are given the chance to pay, or not, we are not "taking advantage of others". If f2p only lasted x amount of time per account, and people constantly made new accounts to play for free, THEN they would be freeloading, but not in the case that is currently available. Omali- Last I checked, this discussion started because the "deserve" word got thrown around. So what you're saying is that you don't want anyone disagreeing that f2p should get more stuffs, basically. I'm not saying that at all. I honestly dont care if we get anything new or not. With what I see, what is in f2p is fine, only updates I would be disappointed about is if they were to stop making holiday events/items f2p, and it's this that I dont want anyone disagreeing with. Omali-And Jagex has more grateful, and paying mind you, customers to give updates to. So there you have it. Hmmm, more grateful, paying customers who whine and complain about everything whenever they get the chance (not all members btw, so don't judge this whole point on that), compared to those who are happy that they get to play the game their own way without paying for it? Come on, there are grateful and ungrateful people on both sides of this. So there you have it.

Yeah, i had a ranger do that to me. I ended up hitting him 22-23-21 first 3 hits and he ran about a minute after because I was laying some good hits. As far as prayer goes, at my level, when someone melee protects, it just means that once they get low hp, they are going to run for it, and theres really nothing you can do about it unless you get lucky because high defence levels, full rune and melee prot just mean 0's galore, so its not something I like people to do during a fight, but by all means, try to stay alive,through any means necessary, except for running. That just wastes everyones time.

Nah, its 4x exp in the wildy, and 2x exp everywhere else in a PvP world.

Quite frankly, I'm sick of hearing all this "f2p is full of freeloaders" crap that comes out every time f2p gets something. I've been playing for over 4 years now, and not once have I been members, why? Because my parents wouldnt let me, and now I have better things to spend my money on. This doesn't make me a freeloader imo. It's not like I am supposed to pay but found a way to play it free (such as downloading a new movie instead of paying to see it), instead the choice is made available, and I choose not to pay. Yes, f2p will get an update every now and again, deal with it. Yes, there are going to be ungrateful people who complain about the updates wanting more, but it's not like members are any better when they get something. Hell, I've only complained about one update, and that was the trade restrictions, yet I constantly see members complaining about every single update, so people from both sides are ungrateful, not just us. As for the corrupted dragon, I couldn't really care about it. As it is, melee will pretty much tear apart both mage and range in a fight, and this only creates a larger gap between the classes.

My first acc was A4tech1, but I used to use Tazo6114 as my online alias for a number of years before that, and it just didnt feel right not having that as my username. Been about 4 years now with Tazo6114, so I doubt I will be going back to A4tech1, although i still remember the pass etc.

I would have seriously laughed irl if I saw that. Besides... Kung-Fu kicks Karate's [wagon]. Well I know I did :D And you're probably right

I saw some guy in the grand exchange claiming that "Ninjas killed my family and I need money for karate lessons" Priceless.

Tazo6114: F2P

there is a reason for that lol. same reason you cant cast regular spells with a ancient staff or god spells w/ normal stafs i just figured that because its a f2p spell, and is almost never used, this would actually get ppl to use it. If there is a mem staff that can do this, im sorry, 100% f2p so wasnt sure. Still, be nice to have for rev hunting, lol.

I'm only at 142, thought id been everywhere in f2p as well, lol.

Wouldnt mind normal staffs (fire, earth, air etc) to be able to auto-cast crumble undead

As far as i'm aware, Cockroach soldiers don't drop mith platebodies in f2p like it says, and i've gotten heaps of scims and squares from them, so if they did drop them, im sure i would have seen or heard something about it.

At least it looks like you thought this argument out. OK, I might have missed the part where you said Fook was a dedicated player, that's my bad, but as I said, it was late, and because of that, I was tired. And using computers for a lot of things kinda is part of what you said. Now, did you not say that "you should NOT own a computer or Internet access if you can't afford that much for a simple game that you enjoy"? Kinda implies that if you can't spend $5 on a GAME for any reason above EVERYTHING else you see as important in your LIFE, due to a strict budget, saving for a holiday you've always wanted to go on to see friends/family or something, that you shouldn't have a computer, or even have the Internet. And you are pretty much saying that $5 is nothing, just something that's there to be spent without a second thought, due to being "pocket change." Because there are many people who view pocket change like this, then you are also spending nothing on a game, which you think deserves to only be upgraded so that other people who seem to be paying nothing to play are pleased. Look at it this way. F2P pays with ads=Next to nothing P2P pays with $5 a month->$5="pocket change"=next to nothing What the hell? Looks like I've taken what you've said about paying and compared it to how F2P pay for the game, and what's that? Same outcome? People will complain about anything, and everything. If i go on youtube, I can watch many more Member rights then F2P ones. The point here is that yeah, F2P complains but I see many more Members complaining because they had an update altered which "wasn't to their liking." Shouldn't they be respecting the fact that they already have so much in comparison, and that the change was for a reason and what not? I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I don't really care, I just want to express my views on what you said. I'll go back and edit out the idiot part and what not as well, I was annoyed at something else at the time. (As for that guys quote, I've seen it aswell, and considering I haven't eaten MacDonald's in many years, find it hard to eat -1 Big Macs, because I doubt each month MacDonald's is gonna give me money for not eating/working there)

Now, I really didn't feel like doing something like this any time soon, but I will. People use computers for lots of things. It makes things like school work a hell of a lot easier. I don't plan on writing up multiple page assignments by hand, and in fact, most of my teachers won't let me do this (I have horrible handwriting according to them ). As for the Internet, you make it sound like playing that one game is all they do on the net. I'm sure I am not the only person who uses it to keep in touch with friends located around the world. Also, maybe some people have something better to do with their cash then spend it on video games. I for one enjoy spending my cash on buying magic supplies so i can do some decent tricks in the streets of Freo or what not. True, most F2Ps shouldn't complain, but because you think your so much better then them cause you pay $5 a month (and this depends on where you are in the world), doesn't give you the right to insult them. And what makes you think only members are dedicated players? That is by far the most bias thing i have heard in the last couple of days. There are lots of F2Ps whom are more dedicated to the game then some members are, I for one, have played RS longer then most of my member mates. To me, it feels I've left a lot out of what I have just said, and that I could make it better, but it's late. Also, F2P will probably get the limited version of summoning like people have been saying, but doesn't bother me.

Well, I found this game through miniclip, and that might be why so many noobs play today, but i'm one of the people whos always having to teleport around because someone somewhere needs my help and I know few other people are going to help them. When I started, I figured it was easier to just make my own money rather then beg and complain about everything, even irl, i don't speak to anyone I don't need to, or ask anyone for anything, but that's for reasons known to few people. Point is, not everyone who found this through miniclip is part of the noob problem. Anyone can push the "Yes, I am over 13 years of age button" and tick the "I have read the terms and conditions" box.